# Donald Trump's 2016 General Election Campaign

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901
**Category:** Politics & Elections
**Created:** [May 4, 2016, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901 "2016-05-04T02:37:34Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)
#### Post date: [August 22, 2016, 7:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4943 "2016-08-22T07:12:39Z")

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…But tonight I say, we must move forward, not backward; upward, not forward; and always pivoting, pivoting, pivoting…

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### Author: ![RandMcnally](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b782af/32.png) [@RandMcnally](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RandMcnally)
#### Post date: [August 22, 2016, 12:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4944 "2016-08-22T12:23:29Z")

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\*twirling.

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### Author: ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)
#### Post date: [August 22, 2016, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4945 "2016-08-22T13:22:02Z")

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At this rate, the Trump campaign will be developing motion sickness.

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### Author: ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)
#### Post date: [August 22, 2016, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4946 "2016-08-22T15:00:37Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> …But tonight I say, we must move forward, not backward; upward, not forward; and always pivoting, pivoting, pivoting…

“Amnesty for all!”  
“Boo!”  
“Very well, no amnesty for anyone”  
“Boo!”  
“Hmm… Amnesty for some, miniature American flags for others.”  
“Yay!”

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### Author: ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)
#### Post date: [August 22, 2016, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4947 "2016-08-22T15:04:08Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> …But tonight I say, we must move forward, not backward; upward, not forward; and always pivoting, pivoting, pivoting…

Isn’t that the [Konami Code?](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Konami_Code)

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### Author: ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)
#### Post date: [August 22, 2016, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4948 "2016-08-22T16:22:28Z")

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> [@Superdude](#):
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> Isn’t that the [Konami Code?](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Konami_Code)

No, the Cheat code for the Trump video game is:

Flip UP, flip UP, flip DOWN, flip DOWN, flip LEFT, flip RIGHT, flip LEFT, flip RIGHT, and no $ to the V A.

Gives you 30 lives, then the player can go up Trump tower and it will make it easy to drop **Don the Con** to the ground.

😃

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### Author: ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)
#### Post date: [August 22, 2016, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4949 "2016-08-22T16:24:12Z")

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What was the guy doing when he climbed Trump Tower?

Playing Donkey Con

… yeah, I’ll keep the day job… 😉

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### Author: ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)
#### Post date: [August 22, 2016, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4950 "2016-08-22T16:28:37Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> What was the guy doing when he climbed Trump Tower?
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> Playing Donkey Con
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> … yeah, I’ll keep the day job… 😉

He wanted his ration of play doh.

> **[FACT CHECK: Donald Trump Donated Play-Doh, Other Items to Louisiana Flood...](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/donald-trump-play-doh-lousiana/)**
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> Donald Trump was criticized for donating Play-Doh to flood victims in need of food and water, but that wasn't the only item among his donations.

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### Author: ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)
#### Post date: [August 22, 2016, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4951 "2016-08-22T17:04:12Z")

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> [@DWMarch](#):
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> If he has ADHD, as speculated in [this HuffPo article](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/george-sachs-psyd/unfit-unfocused-or-is-tru_b_11568002.html), speed would actually help him focus.

His behavior is anything but focused; and the articles are talking about abuse of diet pills prescribed by a quack, not responsibly used psychiatric medication.

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### Author: ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)
#### Post date: [August 22, 2016, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4952 "2016-08-22T17:16:55Z")

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Question:

If Donald Trump uses campaign funds to legally buy advertising from companies that themselves will pay Donald Trump tens of millions of dollars after the election… is this actionable/illegal?

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### Author: ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)
#### Post date: [August 22, 2016, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4953 "2016-08-22T17:30:20Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> Question:
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> If Donald Trump uses campaign funds to legally buy advertising from companies that themselves will pay Donald Trump tens of millions of dollars after the election… is this actionable/illegal?

I’m not quite clear on what you mean by companies that will pay Trump after the election. If Trump is, say, a stockholder in a company and will receive dividends on the same basis as similar, other stockholders, then I’m not aware of anything wrong with that.

If you mean a kickback, which is when a company receives a contract with the expectation that a certain amount would go back to to the candidate as graft, that would most certainly be illegal.

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### Author: ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)
#### Post date: [August 22, 2016, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4954 "2016-08-22T17:35:19Z")

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> [@Ravenman](#):
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> I’m not quite clear on what you mean by companies that will pay Trump after the election. If Trump is, say, a stockholder in a company and will receive dividends on the same basis as similar, other stockholders, then I’m not aware of anything wrong with that.
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> If you mean a kickback, which is when a company receives a contract with the expectation that a certain amount would go back to to the candidate as graft, that would most certainly be illegal.

Hard to prove though.

Hypothetical: In September, Trump buys $10 million in services from company A, using campaign donations. Company A delivers some services which it claims are worth $10 million. In January of the following year, company A hires Trump as an executive adviser for the sum of $5 million. Trump does some “advising”.

How do you prove this was a quid pro quo?

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### Author: ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)
#### Post date: [August 22, 2016, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4955 "2016-08-22T17:44:09Z")

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> [@Ravenman](#):
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> I’m not quite clear on what you mean by companies that will pay Trump after the election. If Trump is, say, a stockholder in a company and will receive dividends on the same basis as similar, other stockholders, then I’m not aware of anything wrong with that.
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> If you mean a kickback, which is when a company receives a contract with the expectation that a certain amount would go back to to the candidate as graft, that would most certainly be illegal.

It is being openly speculated that Bannon and Trump will form a media group after the election, possibly with Roger Ailes. TV, internet… an alt-right network with Trump at the center.

So if he does forms this Media Group, and it is constituted with the very same people and companies that he has spent the largest amount of campaign dollars on… is this illegal?

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### Author: ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)
#### Post date: [August 22, 2016, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4956 "2016-08-22T17:46:30Z")

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While hiring Trump to do anything is an inherently unexplainable action, I would think that there would simply have to be an investigation of the facts to determine whether there was any misconduct. The obvious questions to ask are: did the company perform $10 million worth of work? And is Trump doing $5 million worth of work?

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### Author: ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)
#### Post date: [August 22, 2016, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4957 "2016-08-22T17:52:06Z")

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True.

I ask because there’s a company here in San Antonio which was paid $10,000,000 by Donald Trump in June and July, during a period in which he ran no advertising. They built his website, but it’s not a ten-million-dollar website, and there is some local speculation as to what this company exactly did for that 10 million dollars.

But, yes, of course TrumpBart would actually have to happen for anything actionable to then occur. This company could just be taking Trump for a ten-million-dollar ride.

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### Author: ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)
#### Post date: [August 22, 2016, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4958 "2016-08-22T18:06:04Z")

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[Michelle Bachmann is advising Trump on foreign policy.](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/michele-bachmann-donald-trump_us_57b9f46be4b0b51733a41614)

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### Author: ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)
#### Post date: [August 22, 2016, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4959 "2016-08-22T18:09:59Z")

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Well, \*that’s \*reassuring. :rolleyes:

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### Author: ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)
#### Post date: [August 22, 2016, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4960 "2016-08-22T18:16:29Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> [Michelle Bachmann is advising Trump on foreign policy.](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/michele-bachmann-donald-trump_us_57b9f46be4b0b51733a41614)

She’s going to head his rapture transition team.

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### Author: ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)
#### Post date: [August 22, 2016, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4961 "2016-08-22T18:24:55Z")

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[Trump’s Jefferson County, Colorado campaign co-chair is 12 years old.](http://www.mediaite.com/tv/trump-colorado-campaign-office-is-literally-run-by-a-12-year-old/)

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### Author: ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)
#### Post date: [August 22, 2016, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4962 "2016-08-22T18:27:26Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> [Trump’s Jefferson County, Colorado campaign co-chair is 12 years old.](http://www.mediaite.com/tv/trump-colorado-campaign-office-is-literally-run-by-a-12-year-old/)

Given a job by his ma, that kind of bootstrapping independence is evocative of Trump’s own story.

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