# Donald Trump's 2016 General Election Campaign
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901
**Category:** Politics & Elections
**Created:** [May 4, 2016, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901 "2016-05-04T02:37:34Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)
#### Post date: [August 23, 2016, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5043 "2016-08-23T17:47:16Z")
> [@Merneith](#):
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> Talking Points Memo suggests that it’s a sign of deep confusion in the Trump campaign. They point out that Trump has now talked himself into a position of advocating for continuing President Obama’s current immigration plan. TPM thinks they’re cancelling events while the new team fights about what their message should be…
Big, big fan of Josh and his _Talking Points Memo_, but…
This is a classic example of what happens when a reasonable person views an insane situation, we simply cannot help but try to extract a rational explanation.
Perhaps they are looking to put forth two utterly incompatible viewpoints at the same time, thus appealing to two different sets of people with radically opposing views? When talking to Latinos, they point to statement A. When talking to rabid nativists, they point to statement B.
Is that nuts? Yeah. So?
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### Author:  [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Stamos_Left_Ear)
#### Post date: [August 23, 2016, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5044 "2016-08-23T17:56:34Z")
> [@BigT](#):
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> Nope. I assumed you used a Google cache link to avoid giving Breitbart money, until I clicked on them.
I also assumed this, but the person who doesn’t know how to post links would rather get defensive than simply say “My bad.”
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### Author:  [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)
#### Post date: [August 23, 2016, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5045 "2016-08-23T17:57:23Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> - Events were undersubscribed - nothing says “loser” like having 300 people in a 5000 seat venue.
> - Trump’s campaign team is frantically trying to get him under control, and/or learn something for the upcoming debates
> - Trump is physically/mentally coming apart, and public events would reveal that.
1. Trump is bored. Campaign stops are HARD, and eventually all that cheering is going to start sounding the same, and he has to say the exact same thing over and over again. Trump is used to saying a thing and then that thing gets done. I would guarantee there’s a part of him that has “I don’t ever have to repeat myself to get something done” as a point of pride.
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### Author:  [@Neo-Calredic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Neo-Calredic)
#### Post date: [August 23, 2016, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5046 "2016-08-23T18:07:02Z")
> [@JohnT](#):
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> Maybe they can look at this:
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> [Donald Trump Jacked Up His Campaign’s Trump Tower Rent Once Somebody Else Was Paying It | HuffPost Latest News](http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_57bba424e4b03d51368a82b9)
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> Trump raises his own campaigns rent _500%_ @ Trump Tower as soon as he started to accept campaign donations.
Man, for a billionaire, a few odd hundred-thousand dollars here and there should be chump change. Why even go to the effort? Unless, of course, Trump isn’t nearly as rich as he claims to be, and actually needs all that money he’s kicking back to himself.
Say, Don, where were those tax returns of yours again…? :dubious:
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### Author:  [@naita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/naita)
#### Post date: [August 23, 2016, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5047 "2016-08-23T18:13:44Z")
> [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](#):
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> It wasn’t that clear hence my post. Learn to post links correctly. It’s not difficult for most people.
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> Sent from my SM-G920P using Tapatalk
You know a thing most people don’t find difficult, but is very annoying when you don’t do it?
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### Author:  [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)
#### Post date: [August 23, 2016, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5048 "2016-08-23T18:16:15Z")
> [@Neo-Calredic](#):
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> Man, for a billionaire, a few odd hundred-thousand dollars here and there should be chump change. Why even go to the effort? Unless, of course, Trump isn’t nearly as rich as he claims to be, and actually needs all that money he’s kicking back to himself.
Rich people didn’t get rich by turning down free money. I KNOW Trump didn’t get rich by himself, but it’s probably a truism his Daddy beat into him as a boy.
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### Author:  [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)
#### Post date: [August 23, 2016, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5049 "2016-08-23T18:21:31Z")
[Trump demands a special prosecutor for the Clinton Foundation.](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-clinton-prosecutor_us_57bbae02e4b0b51733a5911a?section=politics)
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### Author:  [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Stamos_Left_Ear)
#### Post date: [August 23, 2016, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5050 "2016-08-23T18:22:28Z")
> [@naita](#):
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> You know a thing most people don’t find difficult, but is very annoying when you don’t do it?
I already [started a thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=794106) about that some time ago seeking clarification about the Tapatalk sig. Unlike the person in this thread, I was prepared to change my habits if it was a big deal (even though the sig doesn’t cause people to directly financially support loathsome entities) and for the most part it wasn’t so I didn’t.
But thanks for your concerns. Feel free to revive the thread if you would like to comment further.
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### Author:  [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)
#### Post date: [August 23, 2016, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5051 "2016-08-23T18:27:50Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> [Trump demands a special prosecutor for the Clinton Foundation.](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-clinton-prosecutor_us_57bbae02e4b0b51733a5911a?section=politics)
And I thought I was joking when I posted this in another thread…
> [@](#):
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> We need special prosecutor, and a dedicated team of 20, whose sole job is to investigate Hilary from now until the end of 2024! Non-stop investigations on every facet of everything she has ever done or ever will do!
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### Author:  [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)
#### Post date: [August 23, 2016, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5052 "2016-08-23T18:36:48Z")
> [@leftfield6](#):
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> Any effort that Trump puts in outside of Florida, Ohio, Nevada, and Iowa is waste of efforts. Those are the only states currently leaning blue that he is close enough to make a play for… But if he spends time in VA or PA, that’s a waste. Those are gone.
Let’s stipulate, despite lack of evidence, that _ **his goal is to win the election** _. Not to get up to 250 electoral votes or so and say “I didn’t do too bad,” but to get the full 269 evs and take home the brass ring.
The states you mention are not enough to get to 269 evs, even with North Carolina thrown in. He’ll need one more state: PA, VA or NH. There’s no way he can get 269 ev’s without one of those three states (or a long-shot like CO or WI).
Among the three, Pennsylvania is most likely to vote Trump. Its huge 20 evs mean that if Trump gets it, the small swing states like NV, IA become irrelevant.
This Presidential election, if not a landslide, will be decided in Pennsylvania. Anyone not campaigning vigorously there doesn’t want to win.
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### Author:  [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)
#### Post date: [August 23, 2016, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5053 "2016-08-23T18:51:00Z")
> [@septimus](#):
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> This Presidential election, if not a landslide, will be decided in Pennsylvania. Anyone not campaigning vigorously there doesn’t want to win.
I agree.
Current RCP poll average for Pennsylvania: Clinton + 9.2
Last 3 polls:
NBC/WSJ/Marist Clinton +11
Quinnipiac 7/30 Clinton +10
Susquehanna Clinton +10
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### Author:  [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)
#### Post date: [August 23, 2016, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5054 "2016-08-23T18:52:16Z")
> [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](#):
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> I also assumed this, but the person who doesn’t know how to post links would rather get defensive than simply say “My bad.”
He posted his links just fine. If you hover over the link, it is very clear where it goes. All you have to do is read it. You do hover over links and read them before you click them, I’ll assume, since you’re so worried about where they’ll take you. Otherwise, I can’t imagine why you’re getting bent out of shape.
https(colon removed)[//www.google.ca/amp/www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/08/22/donald-trump-dismisses-buzzfeed-immigration-report-im-not-flip-flopping/amp/?client=safari](https://www.google.ca/amp/www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/08/22/donald-trump-dismisses-buzzfeed-immigration-report-im-not-flip-flopping/amp/?client=safari)
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### Author:  [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Stamos_Left_Ear)
#### Post date: [August 23, 2016, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5055 "2016-08-23T19:07:36Z")
> [@Frank](#):
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> He posted his links just fine. If you hover over the link, it is very clear where it goes. All you have to do is read it. You do hover over links and read them before you click them, I’ll assume, since you’re so worried about where they’ll take you. Otherwise, I can’t imagine why you’re getting bent out of shape.
> https(colon removed)[//www.google.ca/amp/www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/08/22/donald-trump-dismisses-buzzfeed-immigration-report-im-not-flip-flopping/amp/?client=safari](https://www.google.ca/amp/www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/08/22/donald-trump-dismisses-buzzfeed-immigration-report-im-not-flip-flopping/amp/?client=safari)
I already explained why. If there is a URL I’m not really sure why the obligation is on me to hover when someone could simply post the correct URL.
On a board where you will get scolded by moderation for changing a word or two in quoted posts even when it’s obviously changed for humor or whatever, it would be consistent to request people not post deceptive links.
I am done with this. I made a simple request and explained why I felt it was appropriate. If anyone wishes to start a pit thread about it, I’ll be happy to elaborate further using language appropriate for that forum.
Sent from my SM-G920P using Tapatalk
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### Author:  [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)
#### Post date: [August 23, 2016, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5056 "2016-08-23T19:16:15Z")
But people [embed links into their posts](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19576585&postcount=5052) all the time here which requires a mouse over and you can’t possibly expect that to stop.
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### Author:  [@Finagle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Finagle)
#### Post date: [August 23, 2016, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5057 "2016-08-23T19:17:13Z")
Any chance we could take the links discussion either to the pit, or preferably out behind the barn with a shotgun? But somewhere else?
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### Author:  [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)
#### Post date: [August 23, 2016, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5058 "2016-08-23T19:31:21Z")
> [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](#):
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> I also assumed this, but the person who doesn’t know how to post links would rather get defensive than simply say “My bad.”
Or maybe just that I don’t think I did anything wrong so don’t see a need to say “My bad.” 🙂
But I agree with **Finangle** that this is taking up valuable band-width which could be better spent fantasising about Melania Trump’s pre-Donald days, so I’m done. 🙂
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### Author:  [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)
#### Post date: [August 23, 2016, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5059 "2016-08-23T19:36:48Z")
> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#):
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> … then yes, I’ll put Melania on the table.
Thank you for the best mental image of this entire campaign.
> [@septimus](#):
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> …This Presidential election, if not a landslide, will be decided in Pennsylvania. Anyone not campaigning vigorously there doesn’t want to win.
Why Penna. and not Ohio?
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### Author:  [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)
#### Post date: [August 23, 2016, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5060 "2016-08-23T19:46:15Z")
> [@elucidator](#):
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> Big, big fan of Josh and his _Talking Points Memo_, but…
>
> This is a classic example of what happens when a reasonable person views an insane situation, we simply cannot help but try to extract a rational explanation.
>
> Perhaps they are looking to put forth two utterly incompatible viewpoints at the same time, thus appealing to two different sets of people with radically opposing views? When talking to Latinos, they point to statement A. When talking to rabid nativists, they point to statement B.
>
> Is that nuts? Yeah. So?
Oh yes, I didn’t mean to say that I thought TPM was right necessarily, into why Donald was cancelling his appearances atm, merely that it was a suggestion that they had put forward.
It’s true enough that Donald’s various assertions are incoherent.
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### Author:  [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)
#### Post date: [August 23, 2016, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5061 "2016-08-23T20:00:14Z")
Latest Trump Tweet:
> [@](#):
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> It is being reported by virtually everyone, and is a fact, that the media pile on against me is the worst in American political history!
Wait, what? If the pile on is the worst, then how can it be that EVERYone is reporting this? It makes no sense. If the media is against you, how come “virtually everyone” is reporting on it?
Trump’s brain is a fascinating thing.
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### Author:  [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)
#### Post date: [August 23, 2016, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5062 "2016-08-23T20:02:39Z")
I’m confused - if the media is rigging the election, why are they reporting on the fact that they’re rigging the election?
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