# Donald Trump's 2016 General Election Campaign

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901
**Category:** Politics & Elections
**Created:** [May 4, 2016, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901 "2016-05-04T02:37:34Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)
#### Post date: [August 25, 2016, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5143 "2016-08-25T00:57:18Z")

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Anyway, let’s drop the subject, if I may suggest it. This is WAY more attention than she deserves.

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### Author: ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)
#### Post date: [August 25, 2016, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5144 "2016-08-25T00:58:24Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> You leave my Mom out of this!

YOUR turn to grovel! You started it!

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### Author: ![DoctorJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doctorj/32/2904_2.png) [@DoctorJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DoctorJ)
#### Post date: [August 25, 2016, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5145 "2016-08-25T01:22:08Z")

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Rachel Maddow is eating Kellyanne Conway’s lunch on MSNBC right now.

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### Author: ![Skinnybones\_Lampshade](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skinnybones_lampshade/32/2872_2.png) [@Skinnybones\_Lampshade](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skinnybones_Lampshade)
#### Post date: [August 25, 2016, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5146 "2016-08-25T01:56:40Z")

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I agree about getting back to the discussion on Donald Trump.

But not before mentioning that the type of attack that some of us on this board were making on Ann Coulter (much as I dislike her) is exactly the kind of attack that Donald Trump tends to make on any woman who gets on his nerves.

Which is one of many reasons many of us find Donald Trump abhorrent.

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### Author: ![MacCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maccat/32/216_2.png) [@MacCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacCat)
#### Post date: [August 25, 2016, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5147 "2016-08-25T01:58:00Z")

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> [@DoctorJ](#):
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> Rachel Maddow is eating Kellyanne Conway’s lunch on MSNBC right now.

Though Rachel did end with an untruism. After cajoling Trump to come on her show, she said he wouldn’t regret it. Regrets, he’s had a few, but _that_ would be number one!

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### Author: ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)
#### Post date: [August 25, 2016, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5148 "2016-08-25T02:06:00Z")

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Colbert made good use of the Rudy-in-drag clip last night. I’ve never seen Trump look more presidential.

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### Author: ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)
#### Post date: [August 25, 2016, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5149 "2016-08-25T02:09:01Z")

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The Second Amendment people are starting to get antsy about Trump’s walk-back on immigration, to the point where [even Glenn Beck is worried.](http://www.rawstory.com/2016/08/watch-spooky-caller-stuns-glenn-beck-by-threatening-to-go-after-trump-if-he-breaks-wall-promise/)

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> “Oh, he’s in so much trouble,” the caller said of Trump if he broke his wall promise. “You don’t even understand the backlash of us, the ones who are so frustrated and angry and tired of all the political stuff. We’re going to come after him personally. You know what I mean? We’re going to get him.”
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> Beck looked alarmed by these words and asked the caller if he meant he’d push for impeaching Trump if he didn’t deliver on the wall. The caller said yes, but also left open the possibility that violence might be necessary.
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> “Well, I mean, hey, you yourself said he’s condoned violence in the past, hasn’t he?” the caller asked rhetorically. “I’m just saying, he’s appealing to people who are very frustrated and angry. Their frustration and anger can only be subsided if he makes his promises true. And he has a lot on his shoulders. Maybe he himself doesn’t even know how much. But if he doesn’t come through for us, he’s going to have bigger problems, bigger problems than what you know.”

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### Author: ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)
#### Post date: [August 25, 2016, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5150 "2016-08-25T02:57:10Z")

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“For they have sown the wind, and they shall reap the whirlwind” - Hosea 8:7

(That’s a team of 8 Hoseans, Mr Trump. 🙂 )

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### Author: ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)
#### Post date: [August 25, 2016, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5151 "2016-08-25T03:05:58Z")

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> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#):
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> In any case, from now on I will treat Ann Coulter with the dignity that she deserves…uh, make that the dignity any human being deserves.

I know you said you would drop it, so I just want to make one note here. It ain’t about giving Coulter the dignity she deserves; it’s about giving women, especially transwomen, the dignity to not have their gender be wielded as an insult. Call Coulter all the names you want, as long as you’re not calling her names that shouldn’t be insults.

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### Author: ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)
#### Post date: [August 25, 2016, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5152 "2016-08-25T03:22:11Z")

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Open up a Pit thread or something, will ya?

Coulter can not be insulted a) because she’s ugly. Even though we regularly tear into Trump for his bad hair and pursed-pussy mouth. B) because of her Adam’s Apple. Because this somehow is offensive to trans persons.

Lay out the ground rules for insulting this human shitstain, please. I’d hate to attack the shitstain in an inappropriate manner.

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### Author: ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)
#### Post date: [August 25, 2016, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5153 "2016-08-25T03:37:37Z")

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> [@Catamount](#):
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> Isn’t that against the Geneva Convention?

Nitpick: It’s [Geneva Convention **s**](https://www.icrc.org/en/war-and-law/treaties-customary-law/geneva-conventions) (plural), aka

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> the Geneva Conventions and their Additional Protocols. [They] form the core of international humanitarian law, which regulates the conduct of armed conflict and seeks to limit its effects. They protect people not taking part in hostilities and those who are no longer doing so.

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### Author: ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)
#### Post date: [August 25, 2016, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5154 "2016-08-25T04:29:54Z")

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> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#):
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> Colbert made good use of the Rudy-in-drag clip last night. I’ve never seen Trump look more presidential.

And, God willing, you never will.

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### Author: ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)
#### Post date: [August 25, 2016, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5155 "2016-08-25T04:36:42Z")

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> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#):
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> Open up a Pit thread or something, will ya?
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> Coulter can not be insulted a) because she’s ugly. Even though we regularly tear into Trump for his bad hair and pursed-pussy mouth. B) because of her Adam’s Apple. Because this somehow is offensive to trans persons.
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> Lay out the ground rules for insulting this human shitstain, please. I’d hate to attack the shitstain in an inappropriate manner.

No one is attacking you. You just didn’t seem to understand the actual issue, so the guy tried to explain it.

You didn’t attack her for being ugly. You, along with some other posters, attacked her by saying she’s not really a woman. This is completely different.

That insult has a history of being used to disparage women. It’s still used today to blast Hillary Clinton. The Doper **jsgoddess** has apparently experienced it herself, as I’m sure many female dopers have.

It’s not about class. It’s that it carries with it baggage of misogyny. And even possibly transphobia. How many trans women have been told they aren’t really women?

Again, this is not an attack on you. It is just trying to get across what the problem is. It’s not about there being acceptable and unacceptable insults for horrible people.

It’s that, when you attacked Ann Coulter in this way, you attacked all women. You said it’s okay to consider a woman to not really be a woman.

I won’t say it’s equivalent, but a similar situation is when a guy in the Pit called Bill Cosby a nigger. That wasn’t bad because of class. It wasn’t bad because there are some rules of what insults are out of bounds. It was bad because he attacked all black people with that remark, acting like “nigger” was ever an acceptable insult.

I have zero desire to pit you. I don’t think you are a bigot. I think you just said the same sort of stuff a lot of people say, without realizing how it came across.

Plus you apologized, and that says a lot.

And if this comes across as condescending, then I just don’t know what the hell to do to fix it.

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### Author: ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)
#### Post date: [August 25, 2016, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5156 "2016-08-25T04:41:29Z")

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And now to get back to Trump. I wanted to point this out. Seth Meyers wanted to cover the Email scandal, but he still spent half the segment talking about Trump. I actually started to wonder if he’d lied in the title to get Trump supporters to listen.

I wasn’t sure whether to put this in Trump’s thread or Clinton’s. But I’ll put it here, along with [this one](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upls5liXVfs) where he covers how even Trump supporters don’t like him anymore.

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### Author: ![Lok](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e8c25b/32.png) [@Lok](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lok)
#### Post date: [August 25, 2016, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5157 "2016-08-25T04:44:32Z")

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> [@MacCat](#):
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> Though Rachel did end with an untruism. After cajoling Trump to come on her show, she said he wouldn’t regret it. Regrets, he’s had a few, but _that_ would be number one!

I was disappointed that Rachel failed to call her out about her repeated remarks about Clinton’s approval ratings being so bad. Yeah it’s true, but they are still way better than Trump’s.

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### Author: ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)
#### Post date: [August 25, 2016, 7:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5158 "2016-08-25T07:40:29Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> _That_, Mexico would pay for.

Hell no, they have better taste.

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### Author: ![Alley\_Dweller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alley_dweller/32/430_2.png) [@Alley\_Dweller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alley_Dweller)
#### Post date: [August 25, 2016, 8:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5159 "2016-08-25T08:14:30Z")

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> [@Nava](#):
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> Hell no, they have better taste.

I’ve finally figured out how Donald is going to get Mexico to pay for the wall. He tells them “pay for a wall or you’ll have to stare at these naked statues of me all day. Your choice.”

You gotta hand it to him, he knows how to negotiate a deal.

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### Author: ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)
#### Post date: [August 25, 2016, 8:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5160 "2016-08-25T08:55:12Z")

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I’m now picturing a long row of formerly naked Trump statues, all wearing creative, crotch-less variants of charro suits… there could be contests on the best dress-up in an area, the best graffiti in another…

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### Author: ![Shalmanese](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shalmanese](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shalmanese)
#### Post date: [August 25, 2016, 9:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5161 "2016-08-25T09:20:30Z")

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To absolutely nobody’s surprise, [Chicago police deny that Trump met with a Top Cop who told him he could fix crime in a week](http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/chicago-police-respond-donald-trump-chicago-violence-can-be-stopped-in-a-week-391116511.html). Other sources confirm that this non-existent cop’s name was reported to be John Miller and that he also mentioned how Trump had the most positive medical results he’d ever seen.

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### Author: ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)
#### Post date: [August 25, 2016, 10:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5162 "2016-08-25T10:16:34Z")

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I’m declaring the Coulter thing a hijack. Let’s take it to a different thread if necessary.

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