# Donald Trump's 2016 General Election Campaign
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901
**Category:** Politics & Elections
**Created:** [May 4, 2016, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901 "2016-05-04T02:37:34Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)
#### Post date: [August 25, 2016, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5183 "2016-08-25T17:25:55Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> With Anne’s books, all publicity is good publicity. Threatening to take it off the shelves gives that debut of her book much more coverage than it would otherwise get. …
It’s a great headline! “Anne Coulter, the first author to ban her own book!”
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### Author:  [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)
#### Post date: [August 25, 2016, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5184 "2016-08-25T18:08:28Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#):
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> It’s a great headline! “Anne Coulter, the first author to ban her own book!”
Slacker. She should’ve started years ago.
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### Author:  [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)
#### Post date: [August 25, 2016, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5185 "2016-08-25T18:31:26Z")
> [@Jophiel](#):
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> [Trump is not yet on the Minnesota ballot](http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/08/gop-fail-donald-trump-not-listed-minnesota-ballot/) and it’s unclear that they can [resolve the mess](https://twitter.com/mbrodkorb) before the deadline.
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> (For what it’s worth, I assume they will just in a “Well, of COURSE he’ll be on the ballot” sort of way…)
The damned Legal Marijuana Now party came out of the basement and got their mom to drive them to town hall to register but the Trump campaign _forgot_? Who is in charge of this shit anyway? Still, it’s not like he was going to win anyway.
Oh wait. Trump less than a week ago: ["If I could win a state like Minnesota, the path is a whole different thing, It becomes a much, much different race. We’re going to give it our greatest shot.”](http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/292083-trump-suggests-he-can-win-minnesota)
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### Author:  [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)
#### Post date: [August 25, 2016, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5186 "2016-08-25T19:03:46Z")
Trump is [on the Minnesota ballot.](http://candidates.sos.state.mn.us/CandidateFilingResults.aspx?county=0&municipality=0&schooldistrict=0&hospitaldistrict=0&level=1&party=0&federal=True&judicial=True&executive=True&senate=True&representative=True&title=&office=0&candidateid=0)
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### Author:  [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)
#### Post date: [August 25, 2016, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5187 "2016-08-25T19:14:40Z")
> [@CarnalK](#):
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> Trump is [on the Minnesota ballot.](http://candidates.sos.state.mn.us/CandidateFilingResults.aspx?county=0&municipality=0&schooldistrict=0&hospitaldistrict=0&level=1&party=0&federal=True&judicial=True&executive=True&senate=True&representative=True&title=&office=0&candidateid=0)
Yeah, only because that guy on twitter alerted them-- as you can tell by the date.
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### Author:  [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)
#### Post date: [August 25, 2016, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5188 "2016-08-25T19:30:13Z")
[Further along those lines, Trump’s lack of a professional, or even competent, campaign organization could cost him big time](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2016/08/25/how-many-votes-will-trump-give-up-by-not-running-a-professional-campaign-a-lot/):
> [@Washington Post](#):
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> Trump is being vastly outspent in advertising and is limited essentially to whatever field organization the Republican National Committee can provide — which will be exceeded by Hillary Clinton’s, much as Romney’s was exceeded by Obama’s. How much will this cost him on Election Day?
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> Probably the best estimate comes from a recently published piece by political scientists Ryan Enos and Anthony Fowler. They show that the effect of the 2012 presidential campaign on voter turnout was quite large, about 7-8 points overall.
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> They arrive at this estimate by analyzing a sort of experiment: media markets that span state boundaries, such that part of the market falls in a battleground state and part doesn’t. Voters in one of those markets would be potentially exposed to the same amount of televised political advertising but different amounts of other campaign activity. In particular, you would expect that the battleground state voters would be far more likely to be contacted by campaign fieldworkers, who generally aren’t going to contact voters outside of battleground states.
Lopsided voter mobilization efforts can have down-ticket effects, meaning this election could become even more nightmarish for Republicans.
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### Author:  [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)
#### Post date: [August 25, 2016, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5189 "2016-08-25T19:49:58Z")
> [@Derleth](#):
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> [Further along those lines, Trump’s lack of a professional, or even competent, campaign organization could cost him big time](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2016/08/25/how-many-votes-will-trump-give-up-by-not-running-a-professional-campaign-a-lot/):Lopsided voter mobilization efforts can have down-ticket effects, meaning this election could become even more nightmarish for Republicans.
I am a little hesitant to accept those conclusions. The study attributes higher turnout to the campaigns’ efforts and likely that’s at least partially true, but the fact that your vote just matters more in a battleground state could be as important a factor. As the article mentions, both the candidates benefitted equally with somewhat similar resources. This election will be the one to tell the tale as far as how much GOTV/ground game matters in the battleground states since this time we’ll have a real disparity between the campaigns.
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### Author:  [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)
#### Post date: [August 25, 2016, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5190 "2016-08-25T20:02:04Z")
> [@CarnalK](#):
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> I am a little hesitant to accept those conclusions. The study attributes higher turnout to the campaigns’ efforts and likely that’s at least partially true, but the fact that your vote just matters more in a battleground state could be as important a factor. As the article mentions, both the candidates benefitted equally with somewhat similar resources. This election will be the one to tell the tale as far as how much GOTV/ground game matters in the battleground states since this time we’ll have a real disparity between the campaigns.
No the article said that advertising was equal, and that Obama did get more votes due to his better organization - just not enough to turn any states, as it turned out.
I doubt that people really go to the polls in greater numbers in battleground states - but if they did both parties would benefit, and we could measure this against similar non-battleground states.
Obama not only got out the vote, but he got out the vote of people most likely to vote for him. Trump on the other hand does not seem to believe in data. And that is stupid.
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### Author:  [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)
#### Post date: [August 25, 2016, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5191 "2016-08-25T20:15:01Z")
New entry in the 2016 World Championship Sick Burn competion:
[Eric Cantor:
Pleased to see @realDonaldTrump embrace @JebBush’s immigration plan.](https://twitter.com/EricCantor/status/768887772425912320)
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### Author:  [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)
#### Post date: [August 25, 2016, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5192 "2016-08-25T20:29:29Z")
> [@Voyager](#):
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> I doubt that people really go to the polls in greater numbers in battleground states
That’s not something you need to take as a matter of faith, it’s all recorded. I posted this in another thread:
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> Electoral Competitiveness: One of the most important factors is the competitiveness of the presidential election in each state. Overall, 66% of eligible voters turned out to the polls in the nation’s 12 most competitive states in 2012, but only 57% did in the nation’s 39 other states (including the District of Columbia).
[http://www.fairvote.org/what\_affects\_voter\_turnout\_rates](http://www.fairvote.org/what_affects_voter_turnout_rates)
So if you want to doubt it then I guess you could look at other years to dispute it or come up with alternative reasons those states had better turnout.
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### Author:  [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)
#### Post date: [August 25, 2016, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5193 "2016-08-25T21:08:41Z")
> [@Voyager](#):
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> No the article said that advertising was equal, and that Obama did get more votes due to his better organization - just not enough to turn any states, as it turned out.
Sorry for the double post but while the article says:
“Obama’s edge in fieldwork did appear to net him votes”
it also says that in the battleground states:
“these increases in turnout were similar among Democrats and Republicans. As they noted in a previous Monkey Cage post, this implies that both the Romney and Obama campaigns were able to mobilize voters successfully.”
which when coupled together implies, imho, that being a battleground state matters more than the ground game of the campaigns.
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### Author:  [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)
#### Post date: [August 25, 2016, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5194 "2016-08-25T21:25:43Z")
I doubt Trump is ever going to even come within a mile of reaching Romney’s organization quality, let along Obama’s or Hillary’s.
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### Author:  [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)
#### Post date: [August 25, 2016, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5195 "2016-08-25T21:34:04Z")
Fox News’s Shepherd Smith: [“He trades in racism, doesn’t he?”](https://twitter.com/existentialfish/status/768905763347496960) about Donald Trump.
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### Author:  [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)
#### Post date: [August 25, 2016, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5196 "2016-08-25T21:35:27Z")
[Texas Elector wavering on voting Trump, may vote HRC regardless](http://www.politico.com/story/2016/08/donald-trump-electoral-college-texas-chris-suprun-227422)
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### Author:  [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)
#### Post date: [August 25, 2016, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5197 "2016-08-25T21:52:03Z")
> [@CarnalK](#):
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> Trump is [on the Minnesota ballot.](http://candidates.sos.state.mn.us/CandidateFilingResults.aspx?county=0&municipality=0&schooldistrict=0&hospitaldistrict=0&level=1&party=0&federal=True&judicial=True&executive=True&senate=True&representative=True&title=&office=0&candidateid=0)
The issue is that at least five alternate electors were appointed instead of elected at state convention as required so Trump’s filling can still be contested.
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### Author:  [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)
#### Post date: [August 25, 2016, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5198 "2016-08-25T21:56:59Z")
Trump apparently gave a rather sudden interview with CNN earlier today, which is airing at 8pm EST. He double-downs on calling HRC a bigot and saying she is selling African-Americans “down the tubes”.
> **[Donald Trump to appear on CNN for first time since June](https://www.politico.com/blogs/on-media/2016/08/donald-trump-to-appear-on-cnn-for-first-time-since-june-227411)**
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> He'll be on CNN's "AC360" tonight, a day after Clinton called in
This is his first non-FOX interview since July 31st, other than a brief appearance on local news outlets.
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### Author:  [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)
#### Post date: [August 25, 2016, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5199 "2016-08-25T22:11:35Z")
> [@Jophiel](#):
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> The issue is that at least five alternate electors were appointed instead of elected at state convention as required so Trump’s filling can still be contested.
Really doubt it’s an issue worth worrying about. No one thinks he’s going to win there anyway so it’s rather pointless to dig into the weeds and see if your tweeter has a case.
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### Author:  [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)
#### Post date: [August 25, 2016, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5200 "2016-08-25T22:15:38Z")
To repeat what I said in [another thread,](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19582093&postcount=10) it’s been indescribable for me to watch those who never liked Trump actually start to examine conservative voters and media institutions critically. Reading National Review and RedState basically crow “I told you so” while dealing with the Trump fans they helped create (Google image search NR writer Jonah Goldberg for an example) will, I hope\*, cause some self examination.
- The use of “hope” is deliberate here, because it’s all I’ve got on that issue.
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### Author:  [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)
#### Post date: [August 25, 2016, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5201 "2016-08-25T22:21:24Z")
> [@Jophiel](#):
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> Trump’s filling can still be contested.
You mean, is it custard or jelly?
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### Author:  [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)
#### Post date: [August 25, 2016, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5202 "2016-08-25T22:23:01Z")
> [@JohnT](#):
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> Trump apparently gave a rather sudden interview with CNN earlier today, which is airing at 8pm EST. He double-downs on calling HRC a bigot and saying she is selling African-Americans “down the tubes”.
Sounds like that big scary girl hurt his feelings and he needs to make sure everyone knows “SHE STARTED IT!”
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