# Donald Trump's 2016 General Election Campaign **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [May 4, 2016, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901 "2016-05-04T02:37:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 277
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2016, 9:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5523 "2016-09-01T09:51:35Z")
> [@coremelt](#): > > The US needs to split up into East Coast, West Coast and “Flyover land” or “Jesusland” as some people have suggested. East Coast and West Coast would move way more left wing, and they can have their backwards racist bigoted country in the middle. Or maybe East and West coast can invite Canada to join them in a union to make a contiguous nation. Either way. The great error that the Union committed after the Civil War was in allowing states’ rights to continue. The 10th Amendment should have been expunged and rewritten so as not to include states’ rights. It wouldn’t be surprising if there actually was another civil war at some point. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2016, 11:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5524 "2016-09-01T11:18:38Z")
There was a Trumpista talking to an increasing irate John Humphries on the (BBC Radio 4) Today programme this morning who kept repeating the phrase “I disagree with your narrative”. Apparently this is the new tack: characterizing disagreements as “my story vs. your story” rather than “my lies vs verifiable reality”. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2016, 11:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5525 "2016-09-01T11:51:30Z")
> [@coremelt](#): > > Actually that would be hilarious. Obama pulls out a kenyan birth certificate and a pardon at 1 minute to midnight and goes “fooled you all!”. Mic drop. Wouldn’t it be one minute to noon? So Trump goes to Mexico, lies about the payment of the wall not being discussed, and then turns his much-anticipated immigration speech into a Klan rally minus the burning cross. Please proceed, con man billionaire. Oops, maybe it’s really millionaire. ---
**Author:** ![F.U.Shakespeare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/aca169/32.png) [@F.U.Shakespeare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/F.U.Shakespeare)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2016, 11:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5526 "2016-09-01T11:54:49Z")
> [@coremelt](#): > > **Rather ironic since Trump is only a 2nd Generation Immigrant himself. His grand father was German.** But of course German’s are white enough for them. Nope nosiree, nothing racist in my policies at all! I take great pleasure in pointing out to racist idiots that Aryan’s are actually brown, originally they were from the Indian subcontinent and Persia (eg Iran) Trump’s actually a _first_-generation American on his mother’s side (she was born in Scotland). ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2016, 12:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5527 "2016-09-01T12:20:30Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > Wouldn’t it be one minute to noon? > > So Trump goes to Mexico, lies about the payment of the wall not being discussed, and then turns his much-anticipated immigration speech into a Klan rally minus the burning cross. Please proceed, con man billionaire. Oops, maybe it’s really millionaire. Thing is now all it gets are yawns. Which gets him off the down 8 ledge but won’t change the long term equilibrium of the race. It doesn’t even excite his core any more. The problem with being a celebrity that sells outrageousness is that you have to keep coming up with new material. This is all so last season. Boring. ---
**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2016, 12:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5528 "2016-09-01T12:31:19Z")
> [@coremelt](#): > > The US needs to split up into East Coast, West Coast and “Flyover land” or “Jesusland” as some people have suggested. East Coast and West Coast would move way more left wing, and they can have their backwards racist bigoted country in the middle. Or maybe East and West coast can invite Canada to join them in a union to make a contiguous nation. Either way. I’ve posted [this map](http://www.patheos.com/blogs/camelswithhammers/2012/11/coloring-the-electoral-map-by-district-population-density-and-partisan-split/) numerous times. And will continue until people actually look at it. Red States & Blue States are relevant to the Electoral College but do not reflect the reality of the USA. Even in Texas, cities tend to vote Democratic–sometimes they are surrounded by angry Red Suburbs. We have many Blue Counties down along the Border–light blue because of the low population density, alas. And there’s a Blue streak winding through the Deep South. That’s the Black Belt–named after the fertile soil where cotton thrived & where the descendants of those who planted that cotton still live. (And I think some BLM folks have found reason to march in the “enlightened” parts of the country.) Of course, your divided USA would leave your section much whiter! Dividing the USA was a bad idea in 1861 & it’s still a bad idea. The divisions in the country are, mostly, not geographic. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2016, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5529 "2016-09-01T12:56:36Z")
CNN Money on the Trump-driven civil war among the conservative commentariat: [Conservative media heavyweights at war over Donald Trump](http://money.cnn.com/2016/08/31/media/conservative-media-limbaugh-beck-hannity-trump/index.html) ---
**Author:** ![MacCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maccat/32/216_2.png) [@MacCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacCat)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2016, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5530 "2016-09-01T13:27:55Z")
> [@Nava](#): > > 1. closing down immigrant congregations is part of the objective; not for him directly (he couldn’t care less), but for those people who believe that naming your child Jesús is taking God’s name in vain. Poppa Frederick’s middle name is fine, however… ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2016, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5531 "2016-09-01T13:31:37Z")
> [@coremelt](#): > > Wow just wow. So is he claiming that Clinton is not a US citizen somehow? Because that’s the only possible way this is plausible even to someone with Trump’s tiny intellect. You can’t deport someone who has citizenship by birth. [Trump says many good(well paid by him) lawyers…](http://www.politico.com/story/2015/08/donald-trump-bill-oreilly-interview-121515) > [@](#): > > Under the 14th Amendment, O’Reilly told Trump on “The O’Reilly Factor,” mass deportations of so-called birthright citizens cannot happen. > > Trump disagreed, and said that “many lawyers are saying that’s not the way it is in terms of this.” > > O’Reilly then asked Trump if he envisions “federal police kicking in the doors in barrios around the country dragging families out and putting them on a bus” as a means to deport everyone he intends to deport. > > “I don’t think they have American citizenship, and if you speak to some very, very good lawyers — some would disagree. But many of them agree with me — you’re going to find they do not have American citizenship. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2016, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5532 "2016-09-01T13:37:09Z")
> [@coremelt](#): > > Wow just wow. So is he claiming that Clinton is not a US citizen somehow? Because that’s the only possible way this is plausible even to someone with Trump’s tiny intellect. You can’t deport someone who has citizenship by birth. Hillary was born in Illinois, which has only been a state since 1818. So obviously she’s in trouble. ---
**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2016, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5533 "2016-09-01T13:41:04Z")
> [@Bridget\_Burke](#): > > I’ve posted [this map](http://www.patheos.com/blogs/camelswithhammers/2012/11/coloring-the-electoral-map-by-district-population-density-and-partisan-split/) numerous times. And will continue until people actually look at it. > > … [Here’s](http://www-personal.umich.edu/~mejn/election/2012/countycartpurple1024.png) one that’s scaled for population. I agree with your overall point, but there is a geographic division, it’s just rural/urban rather than north/south/east/west. ---
**Author:** ![Maastricht](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e57/32.png) [@Maastricht](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maastricht)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2016, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5534 "2016-09-01T14:13:06Z")
[This Cracked article](http://www.cracked.com/blog/why-trumps-whole-election-strategy-relies-internet-nazis/) analyzes how Trump may accidentally be more heavily influenced by the alt-right then even he realizes. They are just so _vocal_. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2016, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5535 "2016-09-01T14:40:28Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > CNN Money on the Trump-driven civil war among the conservative commentariat: [Conservative media heavyweights at war over Donald Trump](http://money.cnn.com/2016/08/31/media/conservative-media-limbaugh-beck-hannity-trump/index.html) From the CNN link: > [@](#): > > Conservative media friendships and alliances are breaking apart as Donald Trump’s run for president roils the Republican Party. > > This conservative media crackup has been happening for months, but this week it was broadcast on the airwaves like never before, with a verbal war of words involving Sean Hannity, Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh, three of America’s most popular talk radio hosts. See, to me this is further support of Trump’s End Game, which is the birth of his ultra-conservative network. Yeah, he’s still trying to win the Presidency, but even he knows he can’t. And anyway, how much fun would it be to be President, since you can’t (legally) make money off of it? “Trump-driven civil war” among conservative media players sets him up to ride in on his VERY \*\*white \*\*horse and trample the fallen. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2016, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5536 "2016-09-01T15:01:35Z")
Why can’t the Rolling Stones stop Trump from using their music at his rallies? Is it that once you pay your ASCAP fee, you can tell the artist to suck eggs? ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2016, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5537 "2016-09-01T16:12:40Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > Why can’t the Rolling Stones stop Trump from using their music at his rallies? Is it that once you pay your ASCAP fee, you can tell the artist to suck eggs? Is ‘Sympathy for the Devil’, the campaign theme song? ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2016, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5538 "2016-09-01T16:15:28Z")
Reports are swirling that half of Trump’s Latino outreach team are resigning today. 3 have already done so, with another 11,12 expected. The other 15 have remained silent and are not responding to press questions. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2016, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5539 "2016-09-01T16:27:25Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > Is ‘Sympathy for the Devil’, the campaign theme song? All I ever hear is the intro to You Can’t Always Get What You Want. The Stones of course do not support this maniac. But do they have any legal recourse? ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2016, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5540 "2016-09-01T16:33:43Z")
> [@Maastricht](#): > > [This Cracked article](http://www.cracked.com/blog/why-trumps-whole-election-strategy-relies-internet-nazis/) analyzes how Trump may accidentally be more heavily influenced by the alt-right then even he realizes. They are just so _vocal_. That is bad, but one could (using a devil’s advocate hat) make the point that Trump can still be competent. As in a competent leader, but bigoted and racist But speaking of the mission of this message board, that is not his only big disqualifying quality. Remember how amused Alex Jones was that Trump seemed to follow his musings? It turns out that Alex Jones has the ear of Trump. [https://thinkprogress.org/alex-jones-advising-donald-trump-1b3e0e27f48d#.p5kyil4f5](https://thinkprogress.org/alex-jones-advising-donald-trump-1b3e0e27f48d#.p5kyil4f5) We are in big trouble folks. Nothing good can come in giving the power of the presidency to someone that follows woo woo and conspiracy theories. it will only lead to a huge waste of time and American treasure. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2016, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5541 "2016-09-01T16:36:01Z")
And, don’t forget, to deport 12,000,000 Catholics, they will have to be, you know, rounded up and processed. “Processing centers” will be the new way we can avoid saying “concentration camps.” ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2016, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5542 "2016-09-01T16:57:49Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > All I ever hear is the intro to You Can’t Always Get What You Want. The Stones of course do not support this maniac. But do they have any legal recourse? [WaPo has an article about it.](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/05/05/the-rolling-stones-demand-trump-stop-using-its-music-at-rallies-but-can-the-band-actually-stop-him/) Seems the Rolling Stones asked him to stop and Trump refused, thus far. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901.md?page=276) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901.md?page=278)