# Donald Trump's 2016 General Election Campaign

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [May 4, 2016, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901 "2016-05-04T02:37:34Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2016, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5583 "2016-09-01T22:00:05Z")

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> [@SlackerInc](#):
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> This characterization is highly unfair to landlocked\* blue states. Illinois, Michigan, Minnesota, Colorado, and New Mexico have to join “Jesusland”, but South Carolina hangs with the East Coast? :dubious:
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> He said “we will begin” to do so in the first hours.
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> \*Actually, the first three I listed are not landlocked but have ports serving huge oceangoing vessels.

[From his Phoenix speech.](http://www.npr.org/2016/08/31/492096565/fact-check-donald-trumps-speech-on-immigration)

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> **Day one, my first hour in office, those people are gone. And you can call it deported if you want** — the press doesn’t like that term. You can call it whatever the hell you want, they’re gone.

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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2016, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5584 "2016-09-01T22:11:03Z")

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> [@HurricaneDitka](#):
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> The quote, from your link, was actually:
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> “We are going to get rid of the criminals and it’s going to happen within one hour after I take office, we start, okay?”
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> Trump isn’t always precise with his language, but the inclusion of “we start” seems to suggest that he’ll, you know, START the process within the first hour of his presidency, at least for criminal illegals, not that it will necessary be completed within the first hour.

> [@CarnalK](#):
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> Ffs. Look,he’s nutso and babbles but you don’t do yourself any favours when you misread him purposely. Your article quotes “We are going to get rid of the criminals and it’s going to happen within one hour after I take office, we start, okay?”

> [@SlackerInc](#):
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> This characterization is highly unfair to landlocked\* blue states. Illinois, Michigan, Minnesota, Colorado, and New Mexico have to join “Jesusland”, but South Carolina hangs with the East Coast? :dubious:
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> He said “we will begin” to do so in the first hours.
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> \*Actually, the first three I listed are not landlocked but have ports serving huge oceangoing vessels.

Sorry, I skimmed too rapidly and missed the “start.”

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2016, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5585 "2016-09-01T22:22:04Z")

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> [@raventhief](#):
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> Sorry, I skimmed too rapidly and missed the “start.”

The real problem is the article is titled the way it is. I’ve stopped trusting Talking Points Memo.

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**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2016, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5586 "2016-09-01T22:31:00Z")

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Trump just gave a big speech in AZ on immigration. Here are some of the highlights:

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> In a Trump Administration, all immigration laws will be enforced. As with any law enforcement activity, **we will set priorities**. But, unlike this Administration, no one will be immune or exempt from enforcement – and ICE and Border Patrol officers will be allowed to do their jobs. Anyone who has entered the United States illegally is subject to deportation – that is what it means to have laws and to have a country.
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> **Our enforcement priorities will include removing criminals, gang members, security threats, visa overstays, public charges** – that is, those relying on public welfare or straining the safety net, along with millions of recent illegal arrivals and overstays who’ve come here under the current Administration.

Personally, I don’t really have a problem with his prioritization, and it’s not all that different from the DREAM Act stuff that Obama has tried to do, just in reverse (instead of de-prioritizing “good” illegals, Trump would prioritize “bad” illegals).

As for the “first hour” stuff, he touched on similar themes as well:

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> According to federal data, there are at least 2 million criminal aliens now inside the country. We will **begin moving them out day one** , in joint operations with local, state and federal law enforcement.  
> …  
> **On my first day in office** , I am also going to ask Congress to pass “Kate’s Law” – named for Kate Steinle – to ensure that criminal aliens convicted of illegal reentry face receive strong mandatory minimum sentences.  
> …  
> **We will immediately** terminate President Obama’s two illegal executive amnesties, in which he defied federal law and the constitution to give amnesty to approximately 5 million illegal immigrants.

I think it’s pretty clear he intends to make border security / illegal immigration a priority, but I don’t see how a reasonable person could get from this that he or anyone really thinks he’s going to catch all 12 million illegals and round them up and send them back in the first few hours / days / months of his administration.

This all seems like pretty standard fare where a candidate outlines what he’ll focus on getting done at the start of his administration. Lots of candidates outline plans for their “first 100 days” and things like that.

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**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2016, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5587 "2016-09-01T23:05:53Z")

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Sorry if I missed it: Why is Trump using You Can’t always get what you want? Any reason ever given?

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**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2016, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5588 "2016-09-01T23:20:23Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> Below the surface, Bannon, Ailes, hacktivists, and Russia are working to eviscerate Hillary and her closer Democratic allies. I doubt we’ve even seen the half of it yet.

Seriously? You think they have something more incriminating than that which over two decades of muck-raking by the best GOP muckrakers in the business have not managed to dredge up? Something especially damning that only exists in the digital realm, in her email?

Not buying it.

Only Trump appears to be hiding something he clearly doesn’t want the public to see at this point.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2016, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5589 "2016-09-01T23:32:29Z")

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> [@HurricaneDitka](#):
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> I think it’s pretty clear he intends to make border security / illegal immigration a priority, but I don’t see how a reasonable person could get from this that he or anyone really thinks he’s going to catch all 12 million illegals and round them up and send them back in the first few hours / days / months of his administration.
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> This all seems like pretty standard fare where a candidate outlines what he’ll focus on getting done at the start of his administration. Lots of candidates outline plans for their “first 100 days” and things like that.

Locally in Arizona I have seen the executive branch talk as if any illegal is a criminal. So yeah, I do have reasonable and personal reasons to think that while 12 million illegals will not be deported the reality is that ignoring what full of hate enforcers of the laws like Arpaio will do when deciding how to interpret the law is a problem.

And it is not only me as an Hispanic telling you that, I have to report that in a school where I sometimes do IT work there is a very old, white, conservative teacher’s aid, the kind that usually is planning to vote for Trump and he attended his latest rally here in Arizona.

He just confided to me and other workers that after what he saw in that rally he is NOT going to vote for Trump. Somehow knowing Hispanics and other minorities that will be hurt by the spewed hatred from Trump can change the mind of a Republican. So hopefully many on the fence can finally see what a bad idea has been to put Don the Con in the ticket.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2016, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5590 "2016-09-01T23:35:24Z")

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> [@CarnalK](#):
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> #5 is a pretty big difference. Also, you wouldn’t need to strip away rights to deport people in the country illegally.

How are you going to deal with anchor babies?

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**Author:** ![Little\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c57346/32.png) [@Little\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Pig)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2016, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5591 "2016-09-01T23:46:07Z")

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On a lighter note, the USA Freedom Kids dance troupe [sues Trump.](https://www.thestar.com/news/world/2016/09/01/trump-campaign-sued-by-child-entertainers-over-broken-deal.html)

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**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2016, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5592 "2016-09-01T23:58:41Z")

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> [@drad\_dog](#):
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> Sorry if I missed it: Why is Trump using You Can’t always get what you want? Any reason ever given?

If you figure it out, please tell me. It’s so bizarre and inexplicable. Until I hear a better explanation, I’m going to assume he just likes the song, and idiotically fails to consider the implications of the lyrics.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2016, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5593 "2016-09-02T00:00:44Z")

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> [@Knorf](#):
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> Seriously? You think they have something more incriminating than that which over two decades of muck-raking by the best GOP muckrakers in the business have not managed to dredge up? Something especially damning that only exists in the digital realm, in her email?
> 
> Not buying it.
> 
> Only Trump appears to be hiding something he clearly doesn’t want the public to see at this point.

WikiLeaks keeps saying it will put out stuff in October to take down “Demon Hillary”

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2016, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5594 "2016-09-02T00:01:47Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> How are you going to deal with anchor babies?

I thought only boat people had anchor babies.  
Wow. A _chauffeured_ handbasket.

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**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2016, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5595 "2016-09-02T00:02:29Z")

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That fucking asshole Assange. I sure hope he is bluffing.

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**Author:** ![Backwater\_Under\_Duck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ba8739/32.png) [@Backwater\_Under\_Duck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Backwater_Under_Duck)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2016, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5596 "2016-09-02T00:24:41Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> Is ‘Sympathy for the Devil’, the campaign theme song?

I will never look at Cheeto Jesus again without thinking, _Pleased to meet you. Hope you guessed my name._

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**Author:** ![Precambrianmollusc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/precambrianmollusc/32/63_2.png) [@Precambrianmollusc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Precambrianmollusc)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2016, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5597 "2016-09-02T00:42:48Z")

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> [@SlackerInc](#):
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> If you figure it out, please tell me. It’s so bizarre and inexplicable. Until I hear a better explanation, I’m going to assume he just likes the song, and idiotically fails to consider the implications of the lyrics.

You can’t always get what you want  
But if you try sometime you find  
You get what you need  
My guess is it is a message to the party, “you may not like me , but I am the nominee, and I am what the country needs, so get on board.”

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**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2016, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5598 "2016-09-02T00:42:58Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> WikiLeaks keeps saying it will put out stuff in October to take down “Demon Hillary”

I can say a lot stuff, too. So what? Maybe they have something no one’s imagined, but what are the odds?

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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2016, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5599 "2016-09-02T00:48:00Z")

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I don’t see why WikiLeaks thinks it’s a good idea to piss off Hillary. One way or another, Hillary is most likely going to be elected. Why piss off the future president-to-be, who can take measures against WikiLeaks?

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2016, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5600 "2016-09-02T01:21:50Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> How are you going to deal with anchor babies?

You never heard of orphanages?

But seriously, I guess if I was President Trump I would put parents of anchor babies so far down the priority list that I wouldn’t have to worry about it.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2016, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5601 "2016-09-02T01:31:38Z")

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> [@CarnalK](#):
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> You never heard of orphanages?
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> But seriously, I guess if I was President Trump I would put parents of anchor babies so far down the priority list that I wouldn’t have to worry about it.

Trump has said that he doesn’t believe the 14th Amendment applies to the children born here of illegal immigrant parents.  
He was told this by many lawyers.

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**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2016, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5602 "2016-09-02T01:38:06Z")

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Didn’t he start playing “You can’t always get what you want” after the Pence announcement?

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