# Donald Trump's 2016 General Election Campaign **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [May 4, 2016, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901 "2016-05-04T02:37:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 286
**Author:** ![DonLogan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/51bf81/32.png) [@DonLogan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DonLogan)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2016, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5703 "2016-09-02T22:34:27Z")
I have it at 100% and I’m 12 - 0 since 1968. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2016, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5704 "2016-09-02T22:42:24Z")
> [@Voyager](#): > > I live in the Bay Area, and we have taco trucks on nearly every corner and very low unemployment, so it must be true. 'Course you have low unemployment, costs $1000/mo to rent a reliable heating grate to sleep on! ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2016, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5705 "2016-09-02T22:43:55Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Have there been any Big Major polls since Il Douche told Latinos to go fuck themselves? In a few days we will see clearer evidence of the effects of Trump’s inability to control himself: the reporting is that the only reason that speech was so “strong” (as Trump fans would say) is that Donny was butt-hurt over Pena Nieto’s Tweet about not paying for The Wall: > [@](#): > > As Donald Trump arrived in Phoenix late Wednesday, fresh from a visit to Mexico City’s presidential palace, he had in his hands a big immigration speech that omitted the usual line that Mexico would have to pay for his proposed wall along the U.S. southern border. > > Just after landing, though, Mr. Trump discovered that Mexican President Enrique Peña Nieto had tweeted that he had told the Republican presidential nominee during their private meeting earlier that day that his country would refuse to pay for the wall. [http://www.wsj.com/articles/donald-trumps-mexico-trip-was-weeks-in-the-making-1472779067](http://www.wsj.com/articles/donald-trumps-mexico-trip-was-weeks-in-the-making-1472779067)’ Trump _cannot_ refrain from lashing out. _Any_ provocation sends him into a tizzy. Self-control is completely beyond his abilities. ---
**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2016, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5706 "2016-09-02T22:45:26Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > Who the living fuck are that 19 percent? > … People who identify as Hispanic, likely middle class, and have been in America for generations so have little cultural or familial connections to Mexico or Latin America. They don’t much care for the wetbacks and ignore the blatant racism baked into Trump’s attacks on illegal immigrants. ---
**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2016, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5707 "2016-09-02T23:25:51Z")
> [@garygnu](#): > > People who identify as Hispanic, likely middle class, and have been in America for generations so have little cultural or familial connections to Mexico or Latin America. They don’t much care for the wetbacks and ignore the blatant racism baked into Trump’s attacks on illegal immigrants. I’d also say any that are hardcore conservative, Christians (fundie/non-Catholics) and consider themselves fully assimilated so disassociate themselves from fellow latinos who act/speak/think differently. This would include my mother and sister. We were all born in Ecuador, but I live in San Francisco and they live in Alabama so you can guess which way each of us leans. ---
**Author:** ![Lok](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e8c25b/32.png) [@Lok](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lok)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2016, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5708 "2016-09-03T00:11:05Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > [SFGate, which is the _San Francisco Chronicle_’s online site, says that if there’s a taco truck on every corner, that’s creation of 9.6 million jobs.](http://www.sfgate.com/politics/article/The-national-economic-implications-of-a-taco-9200007.php) And they’ll all be small businesses to boot! ---
**Author:** ![Shalmanese](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shalmanese](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shalmanese)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2016, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5709 "2016-09-03T03:32:26Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > Who the living fuck are that 19 percent? The thing is, Hispanics are a natural constituency for a right wing party. They’re highly religious, tend to be catholic and socially conservative, believe in the value of hard work & personal responsibility as a path to success and believe in strong family values. Republicans have known since GWB that Hispanics were the key to the future survival of the Republican party but the crazy, nativist strain of conservatism that’s taken over the party has no room for courting anyone non-white. The 19% are the people who are holding their nose and voting their values despite how hostile the party is to their interests. If you look at Asian Americans, they went from 75% Republican in 1992 to 25% Republican in 2012. The shift happened too fast to be explained by mere demographic changes and shows just how drastically the party has shifted in the last 20 years. There is a version of a right wing party that could get 70% of the Asian vote and 70% of the Hispanic vote and 60% of the Black vote and would become an increasingly unstoppable force. It’s the version that the “best minds” in the post 2012 defeat were angling for the party to become but got blown up this cycle because a bitter core of white voters refuse to share their toys. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2016, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5710 "2016-09-03T04:33:28Z")
> [@Shalmanese](#): > > The thing is, Hispanics are a natural constituency for a right wing party. This is a commonly expressed theory, but I consider it a pipe dream, almost an urban legend. Leave aside immigration, racism, all of that, and mosf Hispanics just don’t fit on the right, for a more fundamental reason which can’t be smoothed over: > **[Hispanics Favor Bigger Role for Government](https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2012/04/20/hispanics-favor-bigger-role-for-government/)** > > Three-quarters of U.S. Hispanics prefer a big government which provides more services to a small one providing fewer services. This figure is significally lower among the public at large. > [@](#): > > When it comes to the size of government, Hispanics are more likely than the general public to say they would rather have a bigger government which provides more services than a smaller government which provides fewer services. > > Some 75% of Hispanics hold this view; just 19% say they prefer a smaller government. By contrast, just 41% of the public at large voice support for a bigger government. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2016, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5711 "2016-09-03T05:30:15Z")
That’s right. They tend to be more populist than liberal or conservative though. That’s the kind of leaders they liked back home too. ---
**Author:** ![coremelt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@coremelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/coremelt)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2016, 6:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5712 "2016-09-03T06:37:12Z")
> [@Shalmanese](#): > > There is a version of a right wing party that could get 70% of the Asian vote and 70% of the Hispanic vote and 60% of the Black vote and would become an increasingly unstoppable force. It’s the version that the “best minds” in the post 2012 defeat were angling for the party to become but got blown up this cycle because a bitter core of white voters refuse to share their toys. Yeah that party exists. It’s called “The Democrats”. Left and Right wing really don’t mean much anymore. Clinton seems to support the TPP (right wing corporate) while Trump is against it. The Democrat candidate is in the pockets of Wall street while Trump rails against them. Trump did a deal with Pence to try and bring the far right onboard but he’s not really a conservative, and Clinton would have moved even further to the right if it wasn’t for Sanders. She almost certainly will move more to the centre when she wins. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2016, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5713 "2016-09-03T13:29:36Z")
[Trump surrogate admits falsifying biographical claims](http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/03/politics/mark-burns-donald-trump-interview/) > [@](#): > > South Carolina preacher Mark Burns, who regularly introduces Trump at his campaign events, had listed on his church’s website that he had a Bachelor of Science degree and served six years in the Army Reserve. > > Burns, however, was never in the Army Reserve. He was in the South Carolina National Guard, from which he was discharged in 2008, CNN found. > As far as a Bachelor’s degree, North Greenville University told CNN he only attended the school for one semester. Burns admitted that he did not finish his degree when CNN asked him about it. > When CNN confronted Burns about the various professional and social exaggerations he had featured on his biography, Burns first said the page had “obviously” been either “manipulated or either hacked or added.” > But the site host, Wix, said there was no evidence of a hack. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2016, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5714 "2016-09-03T17:16:26Z")
It just keeps getting better and better. Trump’s Mexico trip was inexplicable. He had to know, or suspect, that the Mexican president was going to take issue with The Wall and probably contradict him no matter what he said. If Trump wanted to polish his foreign-policy credentials, why not go to some country that he _hasn’t_ had a beef with - Andorra, maybe? > [@CarnalK](#): > > I forget which comedian who said his grandfather was the type of guy who leaves Ellis Island, signs his immigration papers and then turns to the guy behind him in line and says “Now get off my land”. Heh. I laughed. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2016, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5715 "2016-09-03T17:50:41Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > That’s right. They tend to be more populist than liberal or conservative though. That’s the kind of leaders they liked back home too. I guess it depends on your definitions. In my book, a “larger government that provides more services” is central to the liberal/left project. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2016, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5716 "2016-09-03T18:28:23Z")
[Anderson Cooper fact checks Kellyanne Conway mid-interview.](http://bipartisanreport.com/2016/09/02/anderson-cooper-fact-checks-trump-campaign-manger-mid-sentence-video-viral-in-seconds-video/) ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2016, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5717 "2016-09-03T18:54:43Z")
[Ann Coulter: Trump was doing a standard retard.](http://www.mediaite.com/online/coulter-says-trump-was-doing-a-standard-retard-not-mocking-disabled-reporter/) > [@](#): > > During the conservative columnist’s appearance on Wednesday’s With All Due Respect, John Heilemann asked Coulter about the passage in her book concerning the time Trump came under fire for apparently making fun of reporter Serge Kovaleski during one of his rallies.\*\* Coulter wrote in her book that Trump “was doing a standard retard, waving his arms and sounding stupid,” instead of making fun of Kovaleski’s physical disability,\*\* and Heilemann grilled her on whether that kind of characterization is truly a legitimate excuse. ---
**Author:** ![debdeb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b19c9b/32.png) [@debdeb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/debdeb)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2016, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5718 "2016-09-03T18:57:25Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > [Trump surrogate admits falsifying biographical claims](http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/03/politics/mark-burns-donald-trump-interview/) And this surprises you why??? Most of what Trump says on a daily bases are lies or extreme embellishments. The sad part is that everyone is so used to his constant lies that they hardly even check the facts any more. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2016, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5719 "2016-09-03T19:25:56Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > [Ann Coulter: Trump was doing a standard retard.](http://www.mediaite.com/online/coulter-says-trump-was-doing-a-standard-retard-not-mocking-disabled-reporter/) Why on earth does any reputable publisher handle her books? ---
**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2016, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5720 "2016-09-03T19:27:38Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > Why on earth does any reputable publisher handle her books? Money. That shit sells like hotcakes. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2016, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5721 "2016-09-03T19:30:34Z")
Sure, but Random House used to care about their standing in the industry (not just their bottom line). Shame is dead, apparently. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2016, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5722 "2016-09-03T19:57:21Z")
Its not really a reliable market. Remember when Sarah Palin issued her second volume of her wit and wisdom? Straight to the remainder table. Or when Newt Gangrene’s efforts as a writer of science fiction were re-issued? I actually read some of _1945_, its got sex scenes. (Don’t ask. Really, don’t.) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901.md?page=285) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901.md?page=287)