# Donald Trump's 2016 General Election Campaign

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [May 4, 2016, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901 "2016-05-04T02:37:34Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2016, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5723 "2016-09-03T19:58:13Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Its not really a reliable market. Remember when Sarah Palin issued her second volume of her wit and wisdom? Straight to the remainder table. Or when Newt Gangrene’s efforts as a writer of science fiction were re-issued? I actually read some of _1945_, \*\*its got sex scenes. \*\* (Don’t ask. Really, don’t.)

Does he get his hair messed up?

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2016, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5724 "2016-09-03T20:01:47Z")

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They are still available, and you have been warned.

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**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2016, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5725 "2016-09-03T20:06:28Z")

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> Sure, but Random House used to care about their standing in the industry (not just their bottom line). Shame is dead, apparently.

A company’s standing in the industry _is_ its bottom line. That’s how it’s always been.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2016, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5726 "2016-09-03T20:14:13Z")

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> [@Derleth](#):
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> A company’s standing in the industry _is_ its bottom line. That’s how it’s always been.

I will argue off-topic for this one post and say that though profits were certainly important, the prestige of publishing highly-regarded authors used to be a part of the industry, too. Possibly that hasn’t been true for some years, but it _did_ used to be true.

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Anyway, Trump _deserves_ Coulter–richly.

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**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2016, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5727 "2016-09-03T20:42:06Z")

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Oh, a standard retard! Well, never mind–that’s not offensive at all then. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2016, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5728 "2016-09-03T20:56:31Z")

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Does it strike anyone else as particularly ironic that she said that on a show called “With All Due Respect”?

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**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2016, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5729 "2016-09-03T21:07:33Z")

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> [@SlackerInc](#):
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> Oh, a standard retard! Well, never mind–that’s not offensive at all then. :rolleyes:

And it wast TOTAL COINCIDENCE that he applied to a guy with muscle control problems. What vile people they both are.

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**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2016, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5730 "2016-09-03T21:10:28Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> [Anderson Cooper fact checks Kellyanne Conway mid-interview.](http://bipartisanreport.com/2016/09/02/anderson-cooper-fact-checks-trump-campaign-manger-mid-sentence-video-viral-in-seconds-video/)

I just realized that Kellyanne Conway looks like a Thalmor.

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**Author:** ![Catamount](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/catamount/32/2840_2.png) [@Catamount](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Catamount)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2016, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5731 "2016-09-04T00:42:14Z")

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> [@Merneith](#):
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> I just realized that Kellyanne Conway looks like a Thalmor.

Even the Thalmor have standards.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2016, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5732 "2016-09-04T02:07:07Z")

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> …Anyway, Trump _deserves_ Coulter–richly.

I’d say it’s a mutual kind of thing.

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**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2016, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5733 "2016-09-04T04:30:20Z")

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Found on FB: Same paper, same dates, different markets. What did you just learn? Feeling manipulated yet?

[http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160904/b8df0e283731d2a8bc0c8af04b33ed5d.jpg](http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160904/b8df0e283731d2a8bc0c8af04b33ed5d.jpg)

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2016, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5734 "2016-09-04T04:36:23Z")

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> [@Biffster](#):
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> Found on FB: Same paper, same dates, different markets. What did you just learn? Feeling manipulated yet?
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> [http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160904/b8df0e283731d2a8bc0c8af04b33ed5d.jpg](http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160904/b8df0e283731d2a8bc0c8af04b33ed5d.jpg)
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[Snopes.](http://www.snopes.com/wsj-different-trump-headlines/)

> [@](#):
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> However, these opposing headline editions were not distributed to different political or geographic markets, nor were they intended to influence voters.
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> This picture shows two editions of the Wall Street Journal published at different times of the day. The paper on the left came off the press early in the day, while the paper on the right was produced later in the day. Print newspapers sometimes undergo revisions throughout their daily runs and typically employ marks to distinguish the various editions — in this case the differing WSJ editions are distinguishable by the number of stars displayed in the masthead:

ETA:

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> Colleen Schwartz, the Vice President of Communications at The Wall Street Journal, confirmed that these editions were printed at different times, not in different markets. The edition on the left was published after Trump met with Mexican president Enrique Peña Nieto early in the day (and referenced the seemingly cooperative tone of their discussion), and the edition on the right was published after Trump delivered a speech on immigration later in the day (and referenced Trump’s reasserting his stance that he would force Mexico to pay for the building of a wall along the U.S.-Mexico border):

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**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2016, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5735 "2016-09-04T05:01:30Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> [Snopes.](http://www.snopes.com/wsj-different-trump-headlines/)  
> ETA:

Even so, one can still appreciate the cognitive dissonance created. It’s like the Truth Ministry from 1984.  
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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2016, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5736 "2016-09-04T05:15:20Z")

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Hell, its not _their_ fault, that was the timeline as I saw it. Peña Nieto’s speech was a bit confusing, he seemed to be talking about a wall on Mexico’s own southern border, to hold back others from trekking across Mexico. But he seemed to be picking his way across the minefield of significance without stepping on any.

And Trump sounded terrifyingly normal and relaxed, like they found him some lithium, Valium, and a happy ending massage. I’m guessing he actually believed it, that he had bent Peña Nieto to his will by the sheer gravity of his charisma and intellect. When he found out that wasn’t true, he lost his shit.

The WSJ reported everything in a timely fashion, couldn’t hardly do any better. That afternoon, he was Metternich, by sundown, he was Genghis Khan.

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**Author:** ![coremelt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@coremelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/coremelt)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2016, 8:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5737 "2016-09-04T08:46:00Z")

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I haven’t seen a mention in this thread yet that Alex Jones has said he’s a Trump adviser and the Trump campaign has done nothing to deny this or distance themself from him. Yes the same Alex Jones’s of Infowars and PrisonPlanet fame. Among other things he believes AIDS was made in a lab as a biological weapon, that the government controls the weather and that Sandy Hook was a false flag operation using actors.

Specifically Alex Jones discussed with Trump what the “Evil Democrats” would do to rig the election against him and apparently Trump lapped up everything he said.

I take no pleasure in saying this but I fear there will be blood on the streets on November 9th when Trump loses and his supporters think its all a conspiracy.

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2016, 9:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5738 "2016-09-04T09:56:41Z")

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Shhh. It is a conspiracy. There’s a few dozen million of us getting together on the QT. Now don’t tell any one else, but here’s the thing …

… we’re all gonna vote for Clinton.  
SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!! If they find out the jig will be up!

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**Author:** ![Shalmanese](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shalmanese](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shalmanese)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2016, 10:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5739 "2016-09-04T10:23:31Z")

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> [@coremelt](#):
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> I haven’t seen a mention in this thread yet that Alex Jones has said he’s a Trump adviser and the Trump campaign has done nothing to deny this or distance themself from him. Yes the same Alex Jones’s of Infowars and PrisonPlanet fame. Among other things he believes AIDS was made in a lab as a biological weapon, that the government controls the weather and that Sandy Hook was a false flag operation using actors.

The same Alex Jones who is highly concerned about [fish babies](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzNeg9D-EZ4).

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**Author:** ![coremelt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@coremelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/coremelt)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2016, 11:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5740 "2016-09-04T11:36:27Z")

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> [@Shalmanese](#):
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> The same Alex Jones who is highly concerned about [fish babies](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzNeg9D-EZ4).

Yeah I am totally convinced now that Trump knows he has no chance and is not trying to win. He’s moving as far into wacko territory he can in order to build a base for the Trump News Network (paid for by Putin). That and he wants to see violence when his supporters think the election is rigged.

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**Author:** ![Poto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7ab992/32.png) [@Poto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Poto)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2016, 12:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5741 "2016-09-04T12:21:57Z")

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It’s not over yet. Fox news has plenty of female reporters to hire, fire, sue Fox etc. Trump, women, Murdoch and Trump

> **[Confirmed: Rupert Murdoch Instructed Fox News To Take Down Donald Trump...](https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2016/09/03/confirmed-rupert-murdoch-instructed-fox-news-to-take-down-donald-trump-august-2015/)**
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> \*Updated to add some additional emphasis on the scope of so-called “conservative media”, and financial corruption. In an extensive article within New York Magazine, mostly outlining the rather sordid details of Roger Ailes, readers may also note...

it can’t get any better!

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**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2016, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5742 "2016-09-04T13:22:04Z")

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> [@Biffster](#):
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> Even so, one can still appreciate the cognitive dissonance created. It’s like the Truth Ministry from 1984.  
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Or Trump changes his message every fifteen minutes.

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