# Donald Trump's 2016 General Election Campaign

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901
**Category:** Politics & Elections
**Created:** [May 4, 2016, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901 "2016-05-04T02:37:34Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)
#### Post date: [September 8, 2016, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5963 "2016-09-08T03:37:15Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> …Just happened to see [this cute cartoon](http://www.newyorker.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/DC090716-1000.jpg) in the _New Yorker_ and though I would share. 🙂

Right on the mark - thanks!

> [@asahi](#):
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> Trump has advantages in Florida… The state also elected a Florida governor who is fairly popular and has strongly supported Trump’s campaign…

For certain values of “fairly popular”:

> **[New poll shows Rick Scott more popular than Marco Rubio in Florida](https://floridapolitics.com/archives/203213-rick-scott-only-at-38-favorable-in-new-ppp-survey/)**
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> Rick Scott's favorable ratings have tanked to just 38 percent, according to a new Public Policy Polling survey released on Tuesday. However, he's not the

> **[USA TODAY - Breaking News and Latest News Today](https://www.usatoday.com)**
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> USA TODAY delivers current national and local news, sports, entertainment, finance, technology, and more through award-winning journalism, photos, and videos.

[http://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/state-politics/article89883697.html](http://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/state-politics/article89883697.html)

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### Author: ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)
#### Post date: [September 8, 2016, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5964 "2016-09-08T03:52:16Z")

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[Trump knows the people giving him intel briefings don’t support Obama because of their body language.](http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/donald-trump-body-language-227867?cmpid=sf)

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### Author: ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)
#### Post date: [September 8, 2016, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5965 "2016-09-08T04:03:33Z")

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From tonight’s Commander-In-Chief Forum [transcript](http://time.com/4483355/commander-chief-forum-clinton-trump-intrepid/):

Matt: How much time are you spending on [preparing for the presidency]?

Trump: “…I think I’ve learned a lot. But I think, also, I certainly — I really feel I have a common sense on the various issues…”  
May God have mercy on our souls.

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### Author: ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)
#### Post date: [September 8, 2016, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5966 "2016-09-08T04:33:51Z")

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[Trump: US generals ‘reduced to rubble,’ he’d replace some](https://www.yahoo.com/news/clinton-trump-square-off-national-security-issues-205335260--election.html)

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> Leveling unusually harsh criticism against the military, Republican Donald Trump said Wednesday night that America’s generals have been “reduced to rubble” under President Barack Obama and suggested he would fire some of them if he wins the presidency in November.
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> Asked to square his request for military options with his harsh criticism of the current crop of generals, Trump said simply: “They’ll probably be different generals.”
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> Trump renewed his praise of Russian President Vladimir Putin for having “great control over his country.”

Holy FUCK.

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### Author: ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)
#### Post date: [September 8, 2016, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5967 "2016-09-08T04:40:13Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> [Trump: US generals ‘reduced to rubble,’ he’d replace some](https://www.yahoo.com/news/clinton-trump-square-off-national-security-issues-205335260--election.html)  
> Holy FUCK.

Not only that but he [doubled down](http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-military-sexual-assault-tweet-2016-9) on _blaming women in the military_ for putting themselves in a situation to get raped by the men serving around them.

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> But Lauer immediately quoted a 2013 tweet from Trump that said, “26,000 unreported sexual assaults in the military-only 238 convictions. What did these geniuses expect when they put men & women together?”
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> Trump defended the tweet.
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> “Well, it is a correct tweet,” Trump said. “There are many people that think…”

And I’m gonna stop you right there Fat Don.

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### Author: ![Junior\_Spaceman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Junior\_Spaceman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Junior_Spaceman)
#### Post date: [September 8, 2016, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5968 "2016-09-08T04:41:26Z")

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The madness continues: ["ISIS would not have formed “if we would’ve taken the oil”](https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/773683586398425088)

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### Author: ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)
#### Post date: [September 8, 2016, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5969 "2016-09-08T04:45:38Z")

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Here’s the latest issue by issue polling between Clinton and Trump:

[http://pollingreport.com/wh16.htm](http://pollingreport.com/wh16.htm)

Trump leads on the economy, ISIS, leadershp, and honesty, Clinton leads on temperament, foreign policy, and making life better for minorities.

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### Author: ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)
#### Post date: [September 8, 2016, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5970 "2016-09-08T04:51:24Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> Here’s the latest issue by issue polling between Clinton and Trump:
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> [Campaign 2016](http://pollingreport.com/wh16.htm)
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> Trump leads on the economy, ISIS, leadershp, and honesty, Clinton leads on temperament, foreign policy, and making life better for minorities.

Once again proving the utter stupidity of large swaths of the populace. Even most well educated Republicans, if they are being candid, will call bullshit on that list.

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### Author: ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)
#### Post date: [September 8, 2016, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5971 "2016-09-08T05:00:01Z")

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Reduced to Rubble? I think he meant reduced to Barney.

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### Author: ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)
#### Post date: [September 8, 2016, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5972 "2016-09-08T05:01:45Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> Here’s the latest issue by issue polling between Clinton and Trump:
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> [Campaign 2016](http://pollingreport.com/wh16.htm)
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> Trump leads on the economy, ISIS, leadershp, and honesty, Clinton leads on temperament, foreign policy, and making life better for minorities.

If you kept scrolling down on the very page you linked to, you’d have seen another poll from George Washington University that has Hillary ahead of Donald on every issue they put before the likely voters they polled:

The economy: Hillary 51%-Donald 46%  
Taxes: Hillary 49%-Donald 47%  
Health Care: Hillary 54%-Donald 42%  
Jobs: Hillary 49%-Donald 47%  
Foreign Affairs: Hillary 55%-Donald 40%  
Fighting for the middle class: Hillary 54%-Donald 40%

Just FYI.

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### Author: ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)
#### Post date: [September 8, 2016, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5973 "2016-09-08T05:05:21Z")

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> [@SlackerInc](#):
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> Once again proving the utter stupidity of large swaths of the populace. Even most well educated Republicans, if they are being candid, will call bullshit on that list.

Why do you think the ranking you have in your mind (which I’m guessing features one candidate exclusively) is the right one? It certainly sounds like it’s a minority viewpoint.

On the economy, for example, I’m not surprised that people think Trump’s the better choice. He spends a ton of his time talking about the economy. Hillary, comparatively little I think.

On ISIS, his “get those guys” stance and talk about harsh military actions sounds pretty compelling on the surface. Honesty, what can I say, most people think Clinton’s a dirty liar. I think most people are right on that one.

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### Author: ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)
#### Post date: [September 8, 2016, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5974 "2016-09-08T05:11:19Z")

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> [@HurricaneDitka](#):
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> Why do you think the ranking you have in your mind (which I’m guessing features one candidate exclusively) is the right one? It certainly sounds like it’s a minority viewpoint.
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> On the economy, for example, I’m not surprised that people think Trump’s the better choice. He spends a ton of his time talking about the economy. Hillary, comparatively little I think.
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> On ISIS, his “get those guys” stance and talk about harsh military actions sounds pretty compelling on the surface. Honesty, what can I say, most people think Clinton’s a dirty liar. **I think most people are right on that one.**

[Nope.](https://datavizblog.com/2016/07/24/political-dataviz-who-lies-more-a-comparison-robert-mann/)

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### Author: ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)
#### Post date: [September 8, 2016, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5975 "2016-09-08T05:14:20Z")

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I’ve read that some polls showing Trump close to Hillary or even ahead in some regards don’t call cellphones, only landlines. Younger voters, who tend to support Hillary, more and more don’t have landlines.

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### Author: ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)
#### Post date: [September 8, 2016, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5976 "2016-09-08T05:15:20Z")

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[This link was posted in another thread](http://trofire.com/2016/08/16/hilarious-horrifying-triumph-insult-comic-dog-shows-fake-trump-ads-supporters2/); I’ll cross-post it here. Trump supporters react to fake Trump ads.

Trump’s fans improve on some of the fake-ad proposals. Worried that it may be hard to get all Mexicans to wear dog collars, one woman proposes that all Mexicans be given a fake “vaccine” that allows the electric fence to identify and shock them.

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### Author: ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)
#### Post date: [September 8, 2016, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5977 "2016-09-08T05:19:51Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> [Nope.](https://datavizblog.com/2016/07/24/political-dataviz-who-lies-more-a-comparison-robert-mann/)

Invalid methodology. Geez, liberals will fall for anything that claims to be data driven and has a cool chart.

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### Author: ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)
#### Post date: [September 8, 2016, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5978 "2016-09-08T05:20:51Z")

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> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> If you kept scrolling down on the very page you linked to, you’d have seen another poll from George Washington University that has Hillary ahead of Donald on every issue they put before the likely voters they polled:
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> The economy: Hillary 51%-Donald 46%  
> Taxes: Hillary 49%-Donald 47%  
> Health Care: Hillary 54%-Donald 42%  
> Jobs: Hillary 49%-Donald 47%  
> Foreign Affairs: Hillary 55%-Donald 40%  
> Fighting for the middle class: Hillary 54%-Donald 40%
> 
> Just FYI.

That poll was taken 3 points in the polls ago.

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### Author: ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)
#### Post date: [September 8, 2016, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5979 "2016-09-08T05:25:29Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> Invalid methodology. Geez, liberals will fall for anything that claims to be data driven and has a cool chart.

Invalid in what way? Or do you believe Politifact is invalid?  
if so, demonstrate.

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### Author: ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)
#### Post date: [September 8, 2016, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5980 "2016-09-08T05:26:22Z")

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> [@Siam\_Sam](#):
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> I’ve read that some polls showing Trump close to Hillary or even ahead in some regards don’t call cellphones, only landlines. Younger voters, who tend to support Hillary, more and more don’t have landlines.

The latest “big news” poll that had Trump in the lead was CNN’s from yesterday, at Trump +2. Right at the top of [their poll results (PDF)](http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2016/images/09/05/rel13a.-.2016.post-labor.day.pdf), they say:

> [@](#):
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> This sample includes 601 interviews among landline respondents and 400 interviews among cell phone respondents.

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### Author: ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)
#### Post date: [September 8, 2016, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5981 "2016-09-08T05:28:51Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> [Nope.](https://datavizblog.com/2016/07/24/political-dataviz-who-lies-more-a-comparison-robert-mann/)

I’ve been over this in other threads, but I don’t find totalling up the statements PolitiFact decided to rate to be compelling evidence.

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### Author: ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)
#### Post date: [September 8, 2016, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/5982 "2016-09-08T05:34:05Z")

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“We’ll see”, I said

_…with the calm confidence of a Methodist holding four aces…_

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