# Donald Trump's 2016 General Election Campaign

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901
**Category:** Politics & Elections
**Created:** [May 4, 2016, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901 "2016-05-04T02:37:34Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![Lord\_Feldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lord_feldon/32/341_2.png) [@Lord\_Feldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Feldon)
#### Post date: [September 9, 2016, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6143 "2016-09-09T05:26:42Z")

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> [@Nava](#):
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> Waitaminute. Didn’t he know more than the generals?

Yes, that’s why he’s going to fire all the generals and get new ones. Then the _good_ generals will give him the common sense, easy, 30 day ISIS destruction plan and we’ll win so much we’ll be bored of winning.

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### Author: ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)
#### Post date: [September 9, 2016, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6144 "2016-09-09T05:50:13Z")

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> [@CarnalK](#):
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> We know you’re serious because I already said that with a link to the quote.

And I’m supposed to read two pages and then go back to the post I’m replying to?

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### Author: ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)
#### Post date: [September 9, 2016, 6:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6145 "2016-09-09T06:42:42Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> > [@coremelt](#):
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> > …I can just see Trump, Putin and Xi agreeing to carve the world up into three “operational spheres”. He’d do a deal! It would be a great deal, the best one using the best words!
> 
> If not the last one.

> [@](#):
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> With the absorption of Europe by Russia and of the British Empire by the United States, two of the three existing powers, Eurasia and Oceania, were already effectively in being. The third, Eastasia, only emerged as a distinct unit after another decade of confused fighting. The frontiers between the three super-states are in some places arbitrary, and in others they fluctuate according to the fortunes of war, but in general they follow geographical lines.

Goldstein, Emmanuel, _The Theory and Practice of Oligarchical Collectivism_

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### Author: ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)
#### Post date: [September 9, 2016, 6:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6146 "2016-09-09T06:59:10Z")

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Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia! Sad!

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### Author: ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)
#### Post date: [September 9, 2016, 9:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6147 "2016-09-09T09:07:03Z")

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Today’s [Telegraph cartoon](http://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/opinion/2016/09/08/ADAMS20160909-large_trans++zEtXRB0DXuIn2fl79S5BHedJbc4ZOywsMTk-GlW-2_s.jpg) is delicious.

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### Author: ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)
#### Post date: [September 9, 2016, 10:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6148 "2016-09-09T10:51:01Z")

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If I were a reporter, I would troll Trump so hard on the “cyber” thing:

“Would you say you would be the best at [cybering](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cybersex)? Would you cyber with ISIS? Putin? Kim Jong-un? Is there anyone you would be afraid to cyber with?”

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### Author: ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)
#### Post date: [September 9, 2016, 12:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6149 "2016-09-09T12:51:18Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> And I’m supposed to read two pages and then go back to the post I’m replying to?

I replied in less than 10 minutes to the post you replied to. It was right after. Then we even had a little back and forth over it. All on this very page. Yes, it would be great if you had read it.

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### Author: ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)
#### Post date: [September 9, 2016, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6150 "2016-09-09T12:58:06Z")

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> If I were a reporter, I would troll Trump so hard on the “cyber” thing:
> 
> “Would you say you would be the best at [cybering](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cybersex)? Would you cyber with ISIS? Putin? Kim Jong-un? Is there anyone you would be afraid to cyber with?”

Would you cyber in a boat? Would you cyber with a goat?

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### Author: ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)
#### Post date: [September 9, 2016, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6151 "2016-09-09T13:01:30Z")

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> [@Quartz](#):
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> Today’s [Telegraph cartoon](http://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/opinion/2016/09/08/ADAMS20160909-large_trans++zEtXRB0DXuIn2fl79S5BHedJbc4ZOywsMTk-GlW-2_s.jpg) is delicious.

Not gonna bother linking to it but Politifact has looked at Trump’s claim that Putin called him “brilliant” and it turns out there was some confusion in translation: the word Putin used means “brilliant” as in “very colorful” rather than as in “intelligent”. Which is certainly a descriptor I could agree with.

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### Author: ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)
#### Post date: [September 9, 2016, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6152 "2016-09-09T13:01:54Z")

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> [@TonySinclair](#):
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> Business Insider has tracked down Trump’s statements against the war in Iraq.
> 
> [Donald Trump Repeats False Assertion He Was Against Iraq War at Outset - Business Insider](http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-false-iraq-war-2016-9)
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> As Trump said, before we invaded, he vigorously denounced the invasion on Neil Cavuto’s show. If you have children in the room, you might want to make them leave, because this gets really explicit:
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> "Well, he has either got to do something or not do something, perhaps, because perhaps shouldn’t be doing it yet and perhaps we should be waiting for the United Nations, you know. He’s under a lot of pressure. I think he’s doing a very good job. But, of course, if you look at the polls, a lot of people are getting a little tired. I think the Iraqi situation is a problem. And I think the economy is a much bigger problem as far as the president is concerned.
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> "Well, I’m starting to think that people are much more focused now on the economy. They are getting a little bit tired of hearing we’re going in, we’re not going in, the — you know, whatever happened to the days of the Douglas MacArthur? He would go and attack. He wouldn’t talk.
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> “We have to — you know, it’s sort like either do it or don’t do it.”
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> That’s what I call straight talk.

I think is speechwriter is [Gabby Johnson](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ke5Mr5eCF2U).

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### Author: ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)
#### Post date: [September 9, 2016, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6153 "2016-09-09T13:28:03Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> Not gonna bother linking to it but Politifact has looked at Trump’s claim that Putin called him “brilliant” and it turns out there was some confusion in translation: the word Putin used means “brilliant” as in “very colorful” rather than as in “intelligent”. Which is certainly a descriptor I could agree with.

Orange is the new intelligent.

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### Author: ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)
#### Post date: [September 9, 2016, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6154 "2016-09-09T15:20:00Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> Not gonna bother linking to it but Politifact has looked at Trump’s claim that Putin called him “brilliant” and it turns out there was some confusion in translation: the word Putin used means “brilliant” as in “very colorful” rather than as in “intelligent”. Which is certainly a descriptor I could agree with.

Putin called him “яркий”, pronounced: yarkiy. Meaning “bright”.

Now, my russian is rusty but I don’t recall that word being used to describe someone as being “bright”, in the sense of being _intelligent_. A person is more likely to describe someone as “не яркий”, meaning “not bright”.

So I have a feeling that Putin was paying Trump a back-handed, perhaps sarcastic, compliment. It doesn’t seem to me that he was calling him “colourful”. ICBW.

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### Author: ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)
#### Post date: [September 9, 2016, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6155 "2016-09-09T15:41:09Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> Putin called him “”, pronounced: yarkiy. Meaning “bright”.
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> Now, my russian is rusty but I don’t recall that word being used to describe someone as being “bright”, in the sense of being _intelligent_. A person is more likely to describe someone as " ", meaning “not bright”.
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> So I have a feeling that Putin was paying Trump a back-handed, perhaps sarcastic, compliment. It doesn’t seem to me that he was calling him “colourful”. ICBW.

I was thinking more like “flashy”.

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### Author: ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)
#### Post date: [September 9, 2016, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6156 "2016-09-09T15:48:57Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> So, the German tourist is at the Polish border, and the guard is filling out the form, and asks “Nationality?”  
> “German” says the tourist.  
> “Occupation?” asks the guard  
> “No” says the tourist “just visiting.”
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> Thud-a-bump-BOOM!

Love it!

> [@Quartz](#):
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> Today’s [Telegraph cartoon](http://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/opinion/2016/09/08/ADAMS20160909-large_trans++zEtXRB0DXuIn2fl79S5BHedJbc4ZOywsMTk-GlW-2_s.jpg) is delicious.

_Variety_: Putin, Trump cast in next 007 film.

> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> Would you cyber in a boat? Would you cyber with a goat?

Would you cyber with a stoat? Has Trump Tower got a moat?

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### Author: ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)
#### Post date: [September 9, 2016, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6157 "2016-09-09T16:10:28Z")

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> [@jsgoddess](#):
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> I was thinking more like “flashy”.

Or, “flamboyant”. Yeah, I guess I can see that Putin might have meant that. Whatever it was he meant, it was almost certainly loaded with a heavy dose of sarcasm; Russian humour being what it is.

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### Author: ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)
#### Post date: [September 9, 2016, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6158 "2016-09-09T16:21:43Z")

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Hey - speaking of Donald’s good friend, Vladimir Putin, Trump gave an interview to his other good friend, Larry King, for King’s tv show, which airs on the Kremlin-controlled tv station, Russia Today.

[http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/09/09/larry\_king\_interviews\_donald\_trump\_on\_russian-owned\_tv\_network.html](http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/09/09/larry_king_interviews_donald_trump_on_russian-owned_tv_network.html)

> [@RCP article](#):
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> Donald Trump did an interview Thursday with Larry King, who now hosts ‘Politicking With Larry King’ on Russia Today, an English-language Russian state-backed news service. Trump said it would “not be appropriate” if Russian forces were looking to influence the race for American president.
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> “I think it’s probably unlikely. Maybe the Democrats are putting that out – who knows,” Trump told King. “If they are doing something, I hope that somebody’s going to be able to find out so they can end it. Because that would not be appropriate at all.”
> 
> “I don’t know who hacked [the DNC]. You tell me: Who hacked?” Trump said about charges Russia was behind the hack. “I have absolutely no opinion on that.”

“Probably” unlikely, despite the claims of American intelligence that it’s definitely the work of Russian hackers.

Trump’s team is trying to claim that Donald just gave this interview to help Larry King out with a podcast and that they didn’t know that it would air on a Russian propaganda station. King has been doing this tv show since 2013 however.

Any normal person would be laughed off the stage if they tried to claim that they gave an interview without knowing how it would be broadcast. But Trump and his people are plausibly that dumb and that incompetent.

Of course, believing that Trump didn’t know this interview was for state-backed Russian TV means it would all be a lucky coincidence that the interview aired in Donald Trump’s favorite country and gave Donald a chance to slam American media while appearing on Russian media. What a lucky break for everyone’s favorite celebrity couple, Donamir!

Putrump?  
Vladonald?  
Donavlad?  
Trumptin?

I like Trumptin. Let’s go with Trumptin.

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### Author: ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)
#### Post date: [September 9, 2016, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6159 "2016-09-09T16:24:28Z")

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> [@Merneith](#):
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> Of course, believing that Trump didn’t know this interview was for state-backed Russian TV means it would all be a lucky coincidence that the interview aired in Donald Trump’s favorite country and gave Donald a chance to slam American media while appearing on Russian media. What a lucky break for everyone’s favorite celebrity couple, Donamir!
> 
> Putrump?  
> Vladonald?  
> Donavlad?  
> Trumptin?
> 
> I like Trumptin. Let’s go with Trumptin.

Trutin advertising.

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### Author: ![JohnGalt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johngalt/32/184_2.png) [@JohnGalt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnGalt)
#### Post date: [September 9, 2016, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6160 "2016-09-09T16:29:25Z")

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The Minnesota DFL (Democratic) Party is filing a lawsuit seeking to remove Trump/Pence from the ballot (story is here at the [Star-Tribune](http://www.startribune.com/minnesota-dfl-asks-state-supreme-court-to-order-trump-pence-removed-from-ballot/392834361/)). According to the state constitution, the electoral delegates AND alternates are to be named at the party’s convention, but there were no alternates selected for Trump, so the state Republican Party committee named a field of alternates. Uh-uh, says the Democrats.

The lawsuit will most likely be thrown out based on the intent of the law is being followed, but it is a major embarrassment for the Trump campaign and the state party. If it is upheld, Trump would be listed only 49 state ballots, not that he has a chance of winning Minnesota anyway.

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### Author: ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)
#### Post date: [September 9, 2016, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6161 "2016-09-09T16:47:38Z")

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I despise Trump, but I’d be uncomfortable with a major candidate being thrown off of a state’s ballot due to a technicality like that. It could start a battle of lawyers in every state nitpicking about technicalities.

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### Author: ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)
#### Post date: [September 9, 2016, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6162 "2016-09-09T16:49:37Z")

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> [@JohnGalt](#):
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> The lawsuit will most likely be thrown out based on the intent of the law is being followed, but it is a major embarrassment for the Trump campaign and the state party.

This is the most trivial, petty sort of legalizing, of the sort that pops up in any election. It will be swiftly dismissed and forgotten and doesn’t even qualify as a minor embarrassment.

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