# Donald Trump's 2016 General Election Campaign
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901
**Category:** Politics & Elections
**Created:** [May 4, 2016, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901 "2016-05-04T02:37:34Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)
#### Post date: [September 9, 2016, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6163 "2016-09-09T16:50:27Z")
Agreed. If I were the Dems there I’d let it go.
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### Author:  [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)
#### Post date: [September 9, 2016, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6164 "2016-09-09T16:54:00Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Agreed. If I were the Dems there I’d let it go.
Agreed here, too.
I want people to be able to vote for their preferred candidate. I want them to want to vote for the candidate I prefer, but it’s more important that they vote at all.
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### Author:  [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)
#### Post date: [September 9, 2016, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6165 "2016-09-09T16:58:38Z")
We talked about the Minnesota thing back on page 104-5. I agree that the lawsuit will almost assuredly fail. Rather embarrassing that the actual DFL party is filing the suit rather some whacko “rules are rules!” guy or a third party.
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### Author:  [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)
#### Post date: [September 9, 2016, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6166 "2016-09-09T18:01:46Z")
Its part of an underground movement, Minnesotans sick of their “image”. Lately, pops up on Facebook and twitter feeds, Jesse Ventura saying “I’m Jesse Ventura, and I am NotNice! I appove this message because fuck you!”
Or a picture of the late Phyllis “Stein” Shafly: “This is Phyllis Shafly. She is nice. She wasn’t nice before, but now she is dead. That’s nice.”
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### Author:  [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)
#### Post date: [September 9, 2016, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6167 "2016-09-09T18:19:15Z")
> [@CarnalK](#):
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> We talked about the Minnesota thing back on page 104-5. I agree that the lawsuit will almost assuredly fail. Rather embarrassing that the actual DFL party is filing the suit rather some whacko “rules are rules!” guy or a third party.
Yeah, it’s not like anything like this has ever made it in front of the [Supreme Court](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_v._Burwell).
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### Author:  [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)
#### Post date: [September 9, 2016, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6168 "2016-09-09T18:51:17Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#):
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> Yeah, it’s not like anything like this has ever made it in front of the [Supreme Court](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_v._Burwell).
It took me a minute to understand why you thought this was similar and I’m still not sure if you are agreeing or disagreeing with me. But istm, the intent of the law is to require the parties select their electors and alternates under their own procedures within the deadline. When this story broke, there was a focus on these alternates not being elected but the legislation doesn’t say anything about selection method. If the Minnesota Republican Party decided that alternates should be selected by drawing names out of a hat or even appointed by party leaders, I don’t see how that is against the law. But the lawsuit is positing that the fact that the alternates were selected at an Executive Committee meeting rather than a delegate convention meeting is enough to disqualify them. I can’t imagine the court will agree.
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### Author:  [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)
#### Post date: [September 9, 2016, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6169 "2016-09-09T19:51:51Z")
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Comparison of YouGov/Economist poll results:
PUTIN Net-Favorability
Democrats
July 2014: -54
Aug 2016: -54
Republicans
July 2014: -66
Aug 2016: -27
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### Author:  [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)
#### Post date: [September 9, 2016, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6170 "2016-09-09T19:58:29Z")
> [@CarnalK](#):
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> It took me a minute to understand why you thought this was similar and I’m still not sure if you are agreeing or disagreeing with me. But istm, the intent of the law is to require the parties select their electors and alternates under their own procedures within the deadline. When this story broke, there was a focus on these alternates not being elected but the legislation doesn’t say anything about selection method. If the Minnesota Republican Party decided that alternates should be selected by drawing names out of a hat or even appointed by party leaders, I don’t see how that is against the law. But the lawsuit is positing that the fact that the alternates were selected at an Executive Committee meeting rather than a delegate convention meeting is enough to disqualify them. I can’t imagine the court will agree.
I was agreeing with you.
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### Author:  [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)
#### Post date: [September 9, 2016, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6171 "2016-09-09T20:14:41Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> I’m astonished that no one is asking Trump these very reasonable questions:
> US troops are facing danger now, today, from ISIS. If you have a plan that will stop ISIS, how can you, in good conscience, justify keeping it a secret? When you could take that plan to the current Administration and thereby save American lives?
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> How could anyone with a plan that would save American lives now, hold that plan back? How many will die because you chose to keep your plan a secret, instead of sharing it with those who could put it into action?
> [@running\_coach](#):
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> [June 4](http://www.mediaite.com/online/trump-white-house-clowns-havent-asked-for-my-foolproof-anti-isis-plan-2/)
Yes, he claimed in 2015 that he had divulged his plan to “two or three” officials that were supposedly “high-ranking” but that nothing happened. The article seems to emphasize that Trump was waiting for Obama Administration people to ask him for his plan–and if they didn’t ask, oh well!
Of course the fact is that Trump repeatedly makes the claim even now (of having A Plan), and our press corps won’t put him on the spot about it because that would endanger the horse-race closeness of the election–the thing that keeps their ratings and sales high.
I suppose what I’m really suggesting is that every so-called journalist who hears Trump claim he has A Secret Plan, and then fails to call him on it, should be ashamed.
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### Author:  [@Maastricht](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maastricht)
#### Post date: [September 9, 2016, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6172 "2016-09-09T20:56:57Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> I’m starting to think a lot of people just want life to be black and white, and like a candidate who deals in black and white. No grey. It’s easier that way. Someone who gives simple answers, so you don’t have to think too hard.
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> They think a simple solution to a complicated problem is soothing. And their comfort is all that matters.
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> “I don’t understand gay and trans people so I don’t want to have to hear about them or help them.”
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> “Brown people are blowing people up so they must all be stopped/isolated/avoided no matter what.”
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> “I’m a Christian, so that’s the only religion that matters.”
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> “I’m underpaid/unemployed, so that means America is being run into the ground.”
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> “I always respect police and they never harass or hurt me, so if everyone does that, they’ll be fine.”
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> “We have a black president, so racism can’t exist.”
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> “Abortion is murder, and that’s the absolute worst thing ever.”
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> “Taxes mean I have less money, so taxes are bad.”
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> “My personal freedom to do whatever the fuck I want whenever the fuck I want to is all that matters.”
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> “I was born in America, so I don’t care to deal with people who weren’t.”
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> And on and on and on…Anyone that tries to interject a “Yeah, but…” is a pussy and hates America. I’ve had actual conversations with family members that end like this.
Quoted for truth. That is exactly how they think. Aided by the voices in their bubble.
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### Author:  [@Pashnish\_Ewing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pashnish_Ewing)
#### Post date: [September 9, 2016, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6173 "2016-09-09T22:38:35Z")
> [@Merneith](#):
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> Hey - speaking of Donald’s good friend, Vladimir Putin, Trump gave an interview to his other good friend, Larry King, for King’s tv show, which airs on the Kremlin-controlled tv station, Russia Today.
This one is a yawner for me. Trump went on Larry King’s syndicated show. One of the shows syndication deals is with RT. Big whoop.
Now, the way the Trump team responded to the criticism in a panic, I found hilarious ('We thought it was a podcast!), but ultimately nothing to get worked up about.
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### Author:  [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)
#### Post date: [September 9, 2016, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6174 "2016-09-09T23:04:46Z")
Just read a [very interesting article](Republicans July 2014: -66 Aug 2016: -27) about the malleability of Republicans when it comes to Russian dictators who invade neighboring countries. It seems that Republicans can shove their qualms under a mattress, as long as their local authoritarian Strong Man tells them to.
PUTIN Net-Favorability (YouGov/Economist Poll)
Democrats
July 2014: -54
Aug 2016: -54
Republicans
July 2014: -66
Aug 2016: -27
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### Author:  [@slash2k](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slash2k)
#### Post date: [September 9, 2016, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6175 "2016-09-09T23:06:34Z")
> [@Pashnish\_Ewing](#):
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> This one is a yawner for me. Trump went on Larry King’s syndicated show. One of the shows syndication deals is with RT. Big whoop.
Is this actually a syndicated show? My understanding is that the ONLY network airing his show as regularly-scheduled programming is RT. (It’s also available on demand [e.g., on Hulu], but I’m not aware that it is carried on any other broadcast/cable/satellite station or network.)
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### Author:  [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)
#### Post date: [September 9, 2016, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6176 "2016-09-09T23:08:21Z")
Oh, Trump knew. Or his campaign is so fucking horrible that _nobody_ knew.
The 2nd is too unbelievable for me. Larry King never mentioned? Nobody talked about media distribution plans and news cycles?
I call bullshit.
Occams razor: Trump knew.
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### Author:  [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)
#### Post date: [September 9, 2016, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6177 "2016-09-09T23:17:22Z")
> [@slash2k](#):
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> Is this actually a syndicated show? My understanding is that the ONLY network airing his show as regularly-scheduled programming is RT. (It’s also available on demand [e.g., on Hulu], but I’m not aware that it is carried on any other broadcast/cable/satellite station or network.)
When I saw a brief clip today, King’s microphone had “RT” on it. Sure looks like that’s his network.
BTW, Jesse Ventura just got a show with them. Russia is definitely upping their cultural warfare. Lol.
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### Author:  [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)
#### Post date: [September 9, 2016, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6178 "2016-09-09T23:20:56Z")
Trump 2016; Make Russia Great Again
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### Author:  [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)
#### Post date: [September 9, 2016, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6179 "2016-09-09T23:26:38Z")
If the need is great enough, I stand ready to sacrifice Jesse Ventura for Russia’s cultural enrichment!
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### Author:  [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)
#### Post date: [September 9, 2016, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6180 "2016-09-09T23:28:40Z")
I just posted to FB:
“SHARE if you want Donald Trump to control the nation’s nuclear arsenal.”
I hope it doesn’t go viral! 😉
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### Author:  [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)
#### Post date: [September 9, 2016, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6181 "2016-09-09T23:50:24Z")
> [@Pashnish\_Ewing](#):
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> Now, the way the Trump team responded to the criticism in a panic, I found hilarious ('We thought it was a podcast!), but ultimately nothing to get worked up about.
I’m not worked up about it, but I think it’s hilarious that Trump continues to associate himself with Russian dictator Vladimir Putin and that the Republicans in American basically don’t mind. It’s really his only consistant position. He’s flipped on everything else - even immigration - but by golly, he just thinks that saucy Russian KGB man is swell. He always knows the Russian party line and he has no problems running down America if it means he can praise Putin - and the Republicans are cool with that!
Donald Trump is the Republican nominee for president and he hates everything America has done for the last fifty years. And Republicans are cool with it - as long as he attacks Democrats.
Yeah, I am kind of worked up, now that you mention it.
The Republican nominee just gave an interview that would be broadcast on Russian state TV, exonerating the Russian government for it’s attempts to influence the American election (in his favor, don’t forget) and insulting American intelligence and our free press. And the Republicans are on board with it because it lets them criticize Obama.
Anyway, about the logistics of the interview.
Ora Tv was created in 2012 when Larry King left CNN to provide a vehicle for him and produce other content. It was funded by Mexican billionaire and International Man of Mystery, Carlos Slim. (Ok, I don’t know about the last part. But with a name like Carlos Slim, I’m going to use it anyway.)
Ora TV’s produces on-demand and digital tv shows, including _PolitiKing with Larry King_ and some other stuff you’ve heard of. King also has a celebrity talk show, called _Larry King Live_, with Ora. Ora produces the shows and then licenses them to cable or digital distribution channels. The shows are availble to anyone who wants to license them. _PolitiKing_ is availabe on Hulu, Ora TV, and Russia Today.
In addition, King has a podcast that he does with his wife, called _Back & Forth with Shawn and Larry King_. It’s a puff piece with celebrities and talking about their “normal” daily life.
Trump knows all about this. He and Larry King are old, close, friends. Donald was in talks with Ora TV to develop his own show for the network, only the project was cancelled last year when TRump debuted his campaign with an assault on Mexican immigrants.
He knows what Ora TV is and he knows what shows they run. He knows what his friend Larry King does for Ora TV, since Larry founded Ora along with Carlos Slim.
King, who’s been doing TV longer than God at this point, released a statement today, saying that Trump always knew what show he was booked on. He was booked on Politiking, and at this point, Trump’s protestations that he didn’t know what show it was are simply not believable, given his long track record of defending Russia and his known connections with the Russian government.
And of course, Donald Trump is a pathological liar. “I didn’t know” is pretty much his goto defense. It shouldn’t come as any surprise that he tried to lie his way out this again.
Citation Link dump - sorry I’m exhausted.
This one here for the statement from Ora TV and _Politicking_ -
> **[Larry King’s Production Company: Trump Was ‘Always Booked’ On Our Talk Show](https://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/larry-king-donald-trump-russian-today)**
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> The production company behind Larry King’s programming, which taped an interview with Donald Trump that was beamed over a Russian-backed TV channel on Thursday night, says the GOP nominee was booked…
> **[Ora TV](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ora_TV)**
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> Ora TV is a television production studio and on-demand digital television network launched in 2012 by television host Larry King and his wife Shawn Southwick King and funded by América Móvil, a business venture of Mexican billionaire Carlos Slim. Ora (which means "now" in Italian and is also Shawn Southwick King's middle name) both produces and distributes television shows including Emmy-nominated Larry King Now, Politicking with Larry King, Off the Grid with Jesse Ventura, The Real Girl's Ki Or...
> **[Politicking with Larry King](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politicking_with_Larry_King)**
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> Politicking with Larry King is an American weekly political talk show hosted by Larry King which premiered on June 13, 2013. The guests of the show included various political figures and world leaders. The series is available on Ora TV, Hulu and RT America. The show is distributed worldwide by RT America and Ora TV; the latter also produced another show hosted by King from 2013 to 2020, Larry King Now, which focused on interviews with celebrity guests. The show ran from 2013 to 2020.
> The show re...
> **[Mexican billionaire Carlos Slim dumps Donald Trump](https://money.cnn.com/2015/06/30/news/companies/carlos-slim-donald-trump/)**
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> Richest man in Mexico cancels Trump TV show.
> **[Carlos Slim](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlos_Slim)**
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> Carlos Slim Helú (.mw-parser-output .IPA-label-small{font-size:85%}.mw-parser-output .references .IPA-label-small,.mw-parser-output .infobox .IPA-label-small,.mw-parser-output .navbox .IPA-label-small{font-size:100%}Spanish pronunciation: \[ˈkaɾlos esˈlin eˈlu; - esˈlim -\]; born 28 January 1940) is a Mexican business magnate, investor, and philanthropist. From 2010 to 2013, Slim was ranked as the richest person in the world by Forbes business magazine. He derived his fortune from hi Slim's corp...
> **[Larry King's Post-CNN Career Will Surprise You](https://newrepublic.com/article/114301/larry-king-now-and-politicking-his-post-cnn-career-surprising)**
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> Is anyone still watching Larry King, who has been stubbornly industrious in the months since his nostalgic farewell to viewers on CNN? In 2011 he went on a national comedy tour, the biggest shock of which was the sight of his legs, so scrawny that it...
[http://www.podcastone.com/back-and-forth-with-shawn-larry-king](http://www.podcastone.com/back-and-forth-with-shawn-larry-king)
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### Author:  [@MacCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacCat)
#### Post date: [September 10, 2016, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6182 "2016-09-10T00:01:08Z")
A few minutes ago…
[QUOTE=NYTimes]
Russia and the United States reached agreement early Saturday on a new plan to reduce violence in the Syria conflict that, if successful, could lead for the first time to joint military targeting by the two big powers against Islamic jihadists in Syria. The agreement was reached after 10 months of failed cease-fires and suspended efforts for a political settlement in the Syria war, which began more than five years ago, has left nearly a half-million people dead and created the biggest refugee crisis since World War II.
[/QUOTE]
Hmm, wonder what Trump will have to say, he influenced Putin 😃
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