# Donald Trump's 2016 General Election Campaign

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901
**Category:** Politics & Elections
**Created:** [May 4, 2016, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901 "2016-05-04T02:37:34Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)
#### Post date: [September 10, 2016, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6223 "2016-09-10T19:29:47Z")

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It’s only insulting to the half it describes (that don’t like being called out) - everyone else is saying ‘that’s not me’.

When Trump then says ‘insults to my supporters’ - did he just make the half the whole?

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### Author: ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)
#### Post date: [September 10, 2016, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6224 "2016-09-10T19:55:41Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> I’m beginning to have serious concerns about Donald Trump’s health.  
> He has visibly put on at least 35lbs since this all began, he is 70yo, in debt up to his eyeballs, doing a brand new job which puts fantastic demands of stress and energy on his already-overtaxed heart, and the fact that he is doing it so badly, with over 1/2 of America hating him… the florid coloration, the antsy way in which he moves, his inability to put together a cohesive sentence…  
> Really, if health of the candidate is a big concern, one cannot make a case that DJT is capable of handling the pressure for.much longer.

> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> Wonder why they’ve been so desperate to turn a microscope on Hillary’s “failing health.”

Trump has proven himself the King of Projections–each of his own bad traits shows up in his insults/characterizations of others. From “crooked” to “goofy” to “lyin’”, it’s all Trump. I’m sure I’m not the only person whose first thought, when the ‘attack Hillary’s health’ initiative began, was ‘this must mean Trump just got bad news from his own doctors.’

But, yeah. You can tell it’s bad health news from the fervor with which Mike Pence kisses Trump’s ass at every opportunity. Watch Pence in any photo or video in which he’s standing beside Trump: he knows Trump will be looking at it later, so he makes sure to gaze at Trump quite adoringly. He is taking no chances on Trump getting rid of him (not that there’s a legal way of doing so, but given it’s Trump, there could be ‘something’ that might happen to Pence if Trump suspected he doesn’t _actually_ adore his running mate).

Pence knows he’s got an excellent chance of becoming President if only the doctors can keep Trump going until next January 20 (assuming Trump wins, of course).

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### Author: ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)
#### Post date: [September 10, 2016, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6225 "2016-09-10T20:09:09Z")

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> [@simster](#):
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> It’s only insulting to the half it describes (that don’t like being called out) - everyone else is saying ‘that’s not me’.
> 
> When Trump then says ‘insults to my supporters’ - did he just make the half the whole?

If I were a journalist (or if more of our journalists were journalists), the question would be “So, Mr. Trump, you’re admitting that ALL your supporters are racists? Or is it only half?”"

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### Author: ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)
#### Post date: [September 10, 2016, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6226 "2016-09-10T20:22:17Z")

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> [@Sterling\_Archer](#):
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> I’ve noticed Trump uses this phrase a lot, but I am not sure what he means by it:
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> “I have a lot of respect for…”
> 
> He used it in his example of what he’d do with Obama’s metal stairs controversy, but in a self-contradictory way. He said he’d tell the Chinese “I respect you a lot, but let’s get out of here.”
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> He has also used it in regard to the FL AG and the Pope. I suspect it’s similar to saying “I don’t mean to sound racist, but…”

You have to get behind someone before you can stab him in the back.

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### Author: ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)
#### Post date: [September 10, 2016, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6227 "2016-09-10T20:53:56Z")

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Also, you shouldn’t put somebody down when they’re really behind what they’re into.

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### Author: ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)
#### Post date: [September 10, 2016, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6228 "2016-09-10T20:59:17Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> Wow! It’s going to lose her Trump supporters. Brilliant reasoning! :smack:

> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> Who exactly does Mr. Trump think this will turn away from Mrs. Clinton?
> 
> I don’t think he understands how this whole voting thing works.

This idea, that Clinton insulting Trump supporters, was a bad / dumb / foolish thing to do and might hurt her chances of winning is not just something Trump came up with. Plenty of people think it was a mistake.

Hillary Clinton says she “regrets” it. David Axelrod tweeted “Fundraiser remarks are treacherous things.” Lis Smith called it a “tone deaf” statement “divorced from reality.” Bob Beckel said “It’s the wrong thing to say”. Do you think any of those people might have some idea about whether it would cost her some votes?

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### Author: ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)
#### Post date: [September 10, 2016, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6229 "2016-09-10T21:07:45Z")

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Before this, I would have crawled on hands and knees across a hundred yards of broken glass and fire ants to vote against Trump. Now, only ninety-nine!

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### Author: ![computergeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e56c9b/32.png) [@computergeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/computergeek)
#### Post date: [September 10, 2016, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6230 "2016-09-10T21:17:37Z")

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Trump has been a little more disciplined lately (but not that much!), probably because of his previous sagging poll numbers. Now that the race is tightening, it wouldn’t surprise me if he gets really cocky again and his discipline falls off and he says really outrageous things

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### Author: ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)
#### Post date: [September 10, 2016, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6231 "2016-09-10T21:23:46Z")

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Lis Smith? The O’Malley political spokeswoman and erstwhile toe-suckee of Elliott Spitzer? Yeah, she has excellent judgement.

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### Author: ![BigAppleBucky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigapplebucky/32/178_2.png) [@BigAppleBucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigAppleBucky)
#### Post date: [September 11, 2016, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6232 "2016-09-11T00:06:56Z")

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> [@davidm](#):
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> I despise Trump, but I’d be uncomfortable with a major candidate being thrown off of a state’s ballot due to a technicality like that. It could start a battle of lawyers in every state nitpicking about technicalities.

Tell me about election law technicalities. NY has to be the worst in the country. Starting with the pickiness of the nominating petition process. For example, using an abbreviation could get a signature tossed. This is why we got 8,000 signatures for our Congressional candidate, even though only 2,500 were needed.

A Republican state senator in my Congressional district fought so hard to invalidate the nominating petitions of his primary opponent that the board of elections was not able to get the opponent’s name on the June 28 primary ballot on time. That was in spite of a judge’s ruling.

The state senator then tried to invalidate the judge’s ruling to no avail. Judge ordered a special Oct 6 primary for the GOP nomination since the upcoming Sept 13 primary was for state and local offices, not federal. The GOPer went back to court to say that the Oct 6 date was too close to the November 8 general election and demanded the court order a special election in December. (Of course the special election would benefit the Republican because Trump is going to drag down the entire GOP slate around here.)

Primaries in my district:  
April 29 - Presidemtial  
June 28 - Congressional (Democratic Party only)  
Sept 13 - State and local (only one Conservative party slot has a primary)  
Oct 6 - Special Congressional. (Republican Party only)

Plus the general election. Plus a special Congressional election???

Each one of these costs the board of elections millions.

You’d think some consolidation and rationalization could be managed.

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### Author: ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)
#### Post date: [September 11, 2016, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6233 "2016-09-11T00:12:35Z")

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> [@HurricaneDitka](#):
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> This idea, that Clinton insulting Trump supporters, was a bad / dumb / foolish thing to do and might hurt her chances of winning is not just something Trump came up with. Plenty of people think it was a mistake.
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> Hillary Clinton says she “regrets” it. David Axelrod tweeted “Fundraiser remarks are treacherous things.” Lis Smith called it a “tone deaf” statement “divorced from reality.” Bob Beckel said “It’s the wrong thing to say”. Do you think any of those people might have some idea about whether it would cost her some votes?

Not as much as the email water torture. Did you notice they are not talking about that any more? You didn’t think this “gaffe” happened by accident, did you?

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### Author: ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)
#### Post date: [September 11, 2016, 7:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6234 "2016-09-11T07:35:43Z")

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_It’s not clear that Donald Trump understands the relationship between the president and the military_  
[https://www.washingtonpost.com/…/its-not-clear-that-donal…/…](https://www.washingtonpost.com/%E2%80%A6/its-not-clear-that-donal%E2%80%A6/%E2%80%A6)

I’ll hire the best generals, I tell you! The best! Nobody knows how to hire generals better than me! Believe me. It’s what everybody is saying. Obama hired the worst generals in all of civilized history and Hillary doesn’t know anything about hiring generals.  
My secret plan for defeating ISIS is to have the best generals I hire tell me their plan.

And, this secret plan will be yuge! Yuge! Like my hands.

To Trump: When come back, bring reality.

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### Author: ![Little\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c57346/32.png) [@Little\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Pig)
#### Post date: [September 11, 2016, 8:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6235 "2016-09-11T08:01:47Z")

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[“Trump’s charity runs on few of his own dollars; tax records show his last gift in 2008.”](http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/politics/ct-trump-foundation-20160910-story.html)

“Trump had found a way to give away somebody else’s money, and claim the credit for himself.”

After an exhaustive search,[this is the only explanation I can find why Trump is doing so well in the polls.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyifuNC0MT8) Can anyone on This Board offer another, sane explanation? Jeepers Creepers.

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### Author: ![soonerblue](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/soonerblue/32/3302_2.png) [@soonerblue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/soonerblue)
#### Post date: [September 11, 2016, 11:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6236 "2016-09-11T11:33:06Z")

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[quote=“Rick\_Kitchen, post:6219, topic:753901”]

And the right wing is outraged. Even ABC News thinks it was a horrible thing to say:

[Clinton's 'Deplorables' Comment Show Disdain for Working People, Trump Camp Says - ABC News](http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/hillary-clinton-half-donald-trumps-supporters-basket-deplorables/story?id=41993204) […]

Big deal, Trump has insulted literally everyone for over a year, Hillary insulted half a basket. She merely confronted bigotry …Trump says vile racist things and embraces bigotry. What she said was fine with me - she spoke the truth about all the haters he’s brought out into the sunshine. Also, many major Republicans have said the same thing.

Judging from my group of centrist/liberal friends - it has fired up her base. Now she’s dominating the weekend news cycle instead of the clown who says all publicity is good publicity. And who did she piss off? People who wear t-shirts saying ‘lock the c–t up’?

I’m hoping it’ll get under his thin skin, causing him to bray and bellow even more outrageous things…

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### Author: ![MacCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maccat/32/216_2.png) [@MacCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacCat)
#### Post date: [September 11, 2016, 12:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6237 "2016-09-11T12:29:52Z")

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> [@soonerblue](#):
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> Judging from my group of centrist/liberal friends - it has fired up her base. Now she’s dominating the weekend news cycle instead of the clown who says all publicity is good publicity. And who did she piss off? People who wear t-shirts saying ‘lock the c–t up’?

I could not agree more. Taking the gloves off, in a measured and thoughtful way, is absolutely the way to go. Trump and his deplorables (perfect descriptor) need to be called out and exposed for what they truly are.

Trump & The Deplorables - band name?

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### Author: ![Maastricht](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e57/32.png) [@Maastricht](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maastricht)
#### Post date: [September 11, 2016, 12:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6238 "2016-09-11T12:51:02Z")

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> [@Little\_Pig](#):
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> [“Trump’s charity runs on few of his own dollars; tax records show his last gift in 2008.”](http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/politics/ct-trump-foundation-20160910-story.html)
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> “Trump had found a way to give away somebody else’s money, and claim the credit for himself.”

That article is such a good example of investigative journalism. And what they found is so maddening. What Trump did with his “charity foundation” is not against the law, but only because no-one would think people would stoop so low that a law would be necessary.

Still, that article is too complicated. You have done a good job of condensing so a low information Trump voter might understand.

“Trump had found a way to give away somebody else’s money, and claim the credit for himself.”

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### Author: ![BlueOhio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/439d5e/32.png) [@BlueOhio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlueOhio)
#### Post date: [September 11, 2016, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6239 "2016-09-11T15:26:12Z")

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Eagerly awaiting next year’s production of Les Deplorables.

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### Author: ![MacCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maccat/32/216_2.png) [@MacCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacCat)
#### Post date: [September 11, 2016, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6240 "2016-09-11T15:47:21Z")

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> [@BlueOhio](#):
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> Eagerly awaiting next year’s production of Les Deplorables.

Off Off Off-Broadway

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### Author: ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)
#### Post date: [September 11, 2016, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6241 "2016-09-11T15:48:17Z")

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They offed Broadway? Way harsh!

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### Author: ![MacCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maccat/32/216_2.png) [@MacCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacCat)
#### Post date: [September 11, 2016, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6242 "2016-09-11T15:51:48Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> They offed Broadway? Way harsh!

If they could, they would. Too many other-than-hetero over there, not to mention other-than-white.

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