# Donald Trump's 2016 General Election Campaign
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901
**Category:** Politics & Elections
**Created:** [May 4, 2016, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901 "2016-05-04T02:37:34Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)
#### Post date: [September 11, 2016, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6243 "2016-09-11T17:49:11Z")
> [@soonerblue](#):
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> Now she’s dominating the weekend news cycle instead of the clown who says all publicity is good publicity.
[She sure is](http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2016/09/11/hillary-clinton-leaves-9-11-event-early-rs.cnn).
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### Author:  [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)
#### Post date: [September 11, 2016, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6244 "2016-09-11T18:05:27Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#):
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> [She sure is](http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2016/09/11/hillary-clinton-leaves-9-11-event-early-rs.cnn).
Of course even on the same video Clinton appears walking fine a bit later. I think we can count on Trump to overreach and show his misogynist piggy side yet again.
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### Author:  [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)
#### Post date: [September 11, 2016, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6245 "2016-09-11T18:37:29Z")
Does anyone else find it surprising that the Clinton campaign and associated groups have outspent the Trump campaign and associated groups by essentially 3-1 (according to [opensecrets.org](http://opensecrets.org)) and yet the race is still within a 2-3 points? I would’ve guessed that all those couple hundred million extra would’ve bought Clinton more of a lead. I’m surprised it’s been so … ineffective.
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### Author:  [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)
#### Post date: [September 11, 2016, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6246 "2016-09-11T18:42:55Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#):
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> Does anyone else find it surprising that the Clinton campaign and associated groups have outspent the Trump campaign and associated groups by essentially 3-1 (according to [opensecrets.org](http://opensecrets.org)) and yet the race is still within a 2-3 points? I would’ve guessed that all those couple hundred million extra would’ve bought Clinton more of a lead.\*\* I’m surprised it’s been so … ineffective.\*\*
You can lead the idiots to facts but you can’t make 'em think.
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### Author:  [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)
#### Post date: [September 11, 2016, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6247 "2016-09-11T18:46:07Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#):
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> Does anyone else find it surprising that the Clinton campaign and associated groups have outspent the Trump campaign and associated groups by essentially 3-1 (according to [opensecrets.org](http://opensecrets.org)) and yet the race is still within a 2-3 points? I would’ve guessed that all those couple hundred million extra would’ve bought Clinton more of a lead. I’m surprised it’s been so … ineffective.
Trump gets more free advertisement courtesy of the “liberal” media than Hillary could ever pay for. You don’t need to spend money when everything you say is front page news.
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### Author:  [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)
#### Post date: [September 11, 2016, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6248 "2016-09-11T18:56:13Z")
Put the soap box right over there. A little to the right, yeah, there.
Its because the old paradigms are broken. The main support for the theory of fund-raising as God is the expense of advertising, especially TV advertising. What if that doesn’t work any more?
Remember Jeb!? How he had it all sewn up because of the big donors, plenty of money for advertising, suck all the oxygen out of the room? Remember when they spent $40 million on New Hampshire primary hoping only to move the needle a couple of points? The Old Paradigm said that it couldn’t miss. But it did. Five paces from the side of the barn with a shotgun, and totally missed.
And small donors. Bernie’s big gift to us, showing us that lots of people who need their money are willing to part with some of it to further our cause. Not supposed to work that way.
There is great confusion under Heaven, and the situation is excellent. That was Lincoln.
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### Author:  [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)
#### Post date: [September 11, 2016, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6249 "2016-09-11T19:12:24Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#):
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> Does anyone else find it surprising that the Clinton campaign and associated groups have outspent the Trump campaign and associated groups by essentially 3-1 (according to [opensecrets.org](http://opensecrets.org)) and yet the race is still within a 2-3 points? I would’ve guessed that all those couple hundred million extra would’ve bought Clinton more of a lead. I’m surprised it’s been so … ineffective.
I am actually not surprised that it has impacted the polls little. This country is pretty highly polarized. I think relatively few people are actually able to be swayed. Today’s RCP two-way rolling average is +3.1. Average RCP rolling average lead in the two-way was about Clinton +3.5 in June (range 1.5 to 6.8), in July +2 to 3 (range +4.8 to -1.1), and through her prolonged convention bounce amplified by Trump’s attack on the Khans in August it averaged about +5 to 6 (range +7.7 to +3.9). The ads are merely reinforcing what voters are already aware of and they are not as effective as fresh Trump material. They cannot move the polling needle much and I at least would not expect them to.
The efficacy of the outlay will be determined on election day. Does it relatively suppress turnout among those who might have been his supporters? Does it, and the highly invested in GOTV infrastructure, help turnout among hers?
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### Author:  [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)
#### Post date: [September 11, 2016, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6250 "2016-09-11T19:24:48Z")
Prevarication by the Trump campaign is old news but [at the beginning of this Rachel Maddow episode](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxEsLkCRJNA) she gives examples of Trump’s campaign editing anti-Trump comments to make them pro-Trump, and then showing them in press releases.
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### Author:  [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)
#### Post date: [September 11, 2016, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6251 "2016-09-11T23:47:25Z")
Pneumonia, it turns out.
[http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160911/d225bfb0e6bf933e95bde14566b23e5b.jpg](http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160911/d225bfb0e6bf933e95bde14566b23e5b.jpg)
> **[Hillary Clinton reveals pneumonia diagnosis after stumble at 9/11 memorial](https://www.thestar.com/news/world/2016/09/11/hillary-clinton-reveals-pneumonia-diagnosis-after-stumble-at-911-memorial.html)**
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> Clinton made an early departure from the September 11 anniversary memorial at Ground Zero. She later called off her Monday and Tuesday plans in order to recover at home.
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### Author:  [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)
#### Post date: [September 12, 2016, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6252 "2016-09-12T02:03:42Z")
Can’t wait 'til Donald makes a diagnosis of what’s wrong with Hillary.
I’m counting on him to overplay his hand and come up with a misogynist “blood coming out of her wherever” type of comment.
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### Author:  [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)
#### Post date: [September 12, 2016, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6253 "2016-09-12T02:17:22Z")
> [@elucidator](#):
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> There is great confusion under Heaven, and the situation is excellent.
Sounds like one of your parties, sir.
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### Author:  [@MacCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacCat)
#### Post date: [September 12, 2016, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6254 "2016-09-12T03:11:59Z")
> [@digs](#):
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> Can’t wait 'til Donald makes a diagnosis of what’s wrong with Hillary.
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> I’m counting on him to overplay his hand and come up with a misogynist “blood coming out of her wherever” type of comment.
I’m thinking they’re strategizing to take the high road, in an attempt to make him look thoughtful and compassionate. His innate phoniness will still be invisible to too many.
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### Author:  [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)
#### Post date: [September 12, 2016, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6255 "2016-09-12T04:59:55Z")
> [@MacCat](#):
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> I’m thinking they’re strategizing to take the high road, in an attempt to make him look thoughtful and compassionate. His innate phoniness will still be invisible to too many.
Whatever “They” are strategizing, it won’t matter, because Donald will not be able to keep his mouth shut when he gets in front of a crowd/camera.
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### Author:  [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)
#### Post date: [September 12, 2016, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6256 "2016-09-12T05:01:50Z")
I’ll bet he’s busting a gut trying to keep it in.
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### Author:  [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)
#### Post date: [September 12, 2016, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6257 "2016-09-12T05:05:52Z")
> [@Siam\_Sam](#):
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> I’ll bet he’s busting a gut trying to keep it in.
Trump has a hernia?
At least he will finally be trussworthy.
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### Author:  [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)
#### Post date: [September 12, 2016, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6258 "2016-09-12T05:12:28Z")
> [@running\_coach](#):
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> Trump has a hernia?
> At least he will finally be trussworthy.
**Trump:** “Doc, how soon till I can have sex again?”
**Doc:** “As soon as you can hold your arm out without pain.”
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### Author:  [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)
#### Post date: [September 12, 2016, 8:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6259 "2016-09-12T08:09:12Z")
Here’s a blast from the past; in the aftermath of 9/11, [Trump bragged that he now owned the tallest building in Manhattan and said the twin towers weren’t “great” buildings until they got destroyed.](http://www.rawstory.com/2016/09/donald-trump-twin-towers-were-not-great-buildings-until-their-demise-on-911/)
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> “To be blunt, they were not ‘great’ buildings,” said Trump. “They only became great upon their demise last Tuesday.”
He likes buildings that didn’t get destroyed by terrorists. OK?
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### Author:  [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)
#### Post date: [September 12, 2016, 8:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6260 "2016-09-12T08:14:13Z")
> [@Smapti](#):
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> Here’s a blast from the past; in the aftermath of 9/11, [Trump bragged that he now owned the tallest building in Manhattan and said the twin towers weren’t “great” buildings until they got destroyed.](http://www.rawstory.com/2016/09/donald-trump-twin-towers-were-not-great-buildings-until-their-demise-on-911/)
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> He likes buildings that didn’t get destroyed by terrorists. OK?
Yeah, those World Trade Center towers were LOSERS.
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### Author:  [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)
#### Post date: [September 12, 2016, 8:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6261 "2016-09-12T08:57:24Z")
To be fair, lots of New Yorkers used to hate the Twin Towers. They just shut up about it after 9/11.
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### Author:  [@Wallet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wallet)
#### Post date: [September 12, 2016, 9:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6262 "2016-09-12T09:45:04Z")
> [@Alessan](#):
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> To be fair, lots of New Yorkers used to hate the Twin Towers. They just shut up about it after 9/11.
I’m sorry, what? I used to shop there, performed some State audits there, and my sister worked there every day. I feel I have a reasonably close connection to the site.
Who hated the WTC? Workers? Developers? Cites, please.
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