# Donald Trump's 2016 General Election Campaign **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [May 4, 2016, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901 "2016-05-04T02:37:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 325
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2016, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6483 "2016-09-14T20:27:17Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > No, that’s just being an unethical last-class jerk. That’s valuing the prize so much you don’t care how much damage you do. Attacking your opponent’s weakness makes you an unethical jerk? “I noticed that the cornerback covering my wide receiver had one leg in a cast…but it wouldn’t be ethical to throw that direction. Don’t want to be accused of jerkiness.” Right. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2016, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6484 "2016-09-14T20:29:48Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > **Attacking your opponent’s weakness makes you an unethical jerk?** > > “I noticed that the cornerback covering my wide receiver had one leg in a cast…but it wouldn’t be ethical to throw that direction. Don’t want to be accused of jerkiness.” > > Right. When you sweep the leg, yes. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2016, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6485 "2016-09-14T20:45:46Z")
Trump was at a majority-black church in Flint today, invited there by the pastor to speak about Flint and its problems. When he began mouthing his usual anti-Hillary nonsense, the pastor interrupted him and told him that wasn’t why he was there. > **[Not in my house, pastor tells Trump](https://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/flint-pastor-cuts-off-trump-228172?cmpid=sf)** > > The GOP nominee was rebuked for attacking Clinton in a black church. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2016, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6486 "2016-09-14T20:52:37Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Trump was at a majority-black church in Flint today, invited there by the pastor to speak about Flint and its problems. When he began mouthing his usual anti-Hillary nonsense, the pastor interrupted him and told him that wasn’t why he was there. > > [http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/flint-pastor-cuts-off-trump-228172?cmpid=sf](http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/flint-pastor-cuts-off-trump-228172?cmpid=sf) > [@](#): > > During the 15-minute tour, he offered brief remarks from a page of notes and thanked the “very, very good executives.” _What_ executives? ETA: Kudos to the pastor for standing up to the Cheeto. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2016, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6487 "2016-09-14T21:06:00Z")
> [@GulfTiger](#): > > [The Boston Herald](http://www.bostonherald.com/news/columnists/howie_carr/2016/09/carr_some_quick_easy_steps_to_tell_if_you_re_a_deplorable) > > (If you’re typing to me) GT, we don’t allow the copying and pasting of articles like that. In the future provide a link and a brief quote. Continuing to do so may result in sanctions. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2016, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6488 "2016-09-14T21:59:19Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > _What_ executives? Apparently he was thanking the executives that used to run the now-closed water treatment facility: > [@](#): > > Before heading to the church, Trump took a 15-minute tour of the now-shuttered water treatment center that was responsible for lead contamination that’s kept residents under a boil order for two years. With a few television cameras and reporters in tow, he offered brief remarks from a page of notes and thanked the “very, very good executives.” Now, I don’t know what he thought he was thanking them for; perhaps someone should ask Mr. Trump. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2016, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6489 "2016-09-14T22:11:23Z")
Lead contamination leads to a boil order? Actually I can’t even leave that as a facetious question. You can’t boil lead out of water. If anything that would increase lead concentration. Who made that statement, Snowboarder? ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2016, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6490 "2016-09-14T22:21:24Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > Lead contamination leads to a boil order? > > Actually I can’t even leave that as a facetious question. You can’t boil lead out of water. If anything that would increase lead concentration. Who made that statement, Snowboarder? Who made what statement? The text is quoted from the Politico story linked upthread by **Rick Kitchen**. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2016, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6491 "2016-09-14T22:23:38Z")
[VICE has filed a lawsuit seeking Trump’s IRS audits! > [@](#): > > For more than a year, Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump has claimed that he would “love” to release his tax returns and prove to the public that he is indeed a very wealthy and charitable businessman. > > But, he’s said, there’s a hiccup that prevents him from doing so: The tax returns he filed between 2002 and 2008 continue to be audited by the Internal Revenue Service. > > Last February, however, IRS Commissioner John Koskinen said that it is “rare” for an individual taxpayer to be audited every year, as Trump insisted he has been. Koskinen noted there is nothing legally stopping any taxpayer from releasing his or her returns publicly. > > This week, VICE News filed a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) lawsuit in US District Court in Washington, DC against the IRS demanding that the agency turn over all audits of Trump’s tax returns from 2002 onward. In the suit, filed jointly with Ryan Shapiro, a doctoral candidate at MIT and research affiliate at the Berkman Klein Center for Internet & Society at Harvard University, we asked the IRS for “any and all requests by law enforcement agencies for copies of… Trump’s individual tax returns” and “any and all records mentioning or referring to requests by law enforcement agencies for copies of individual tax returns.” ]([We’re suing the IRS for audits of Donald Trump’s tax returns](https://news.vice.com/article/were-suing-the-irs-for-audits-of-donald-trumps-tax-returns)) ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2016, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6492 "2016-09-14T22:25:23Z")
> [@GulfTiger](#): > > See how that works? Yes, it turns fact into fiction. Your point, sir? ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2016, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6493 "2016-09-14T22:28:20Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > Lead contamination leads to a boil order? > Actually I can’t even leave that as a facetious question. You can’t boil lead out of water. If anything that would increase lead concentration. Who made that statement, Snowboarder? I’m no expert, but when I read the quotation: > [@](#): > > Before heading to the church, Trump took a 15-minute tour of the now-shuttered water treatment center that was responsible for lead contamination that’s kept residents under a boil order for two years. …I assumed that the residents have to boil their water because it’s no longer being treated (due to the center being shuttered). (Emphasis in the quotation is mine.) ---
**Author:** ![GulfTiger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e79b87/32.png) [@GulfTiger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GulfTiger)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2016, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6494 "2016-09-15T00:07:30Z")
> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#): > > GT, we don’t allow the copying and pasting of articles like that. In the future provide a link and a brief quote. Continuing to do so may result in sanctions. No problem. I got carried away for a momemnt. The mods here are great. I appreciate their even temperament. ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2016, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6495 "2016-09-15T00:32:29Z")
The boil order was because the water wasn’t being treated, which is why 200 people in Flint had gotten legionnaires disease. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2016, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6496 "2016-09-15T01:11:14Z")
If Trump loses, blacks will kidnap white women from Walmart & rape them. Yes, [David Duke just said that.](http://bipartisanreport.com/2016/09/12/david-duke-if-hillary-wins-black-men-will-kidnap-white-women-from-walmart-rape-them-audio/). Yet Mike Pence can’t bring himself to call Duke deplorable. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2016, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6497 "2016-09-15T01:54:22Z")
Sounds to me like David Duke has an interest in seeing Walmart stock tank. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2016, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6498 "2016-09-15T03:57:46Z")
Is David Duke smart enough to play the stock market that way? I have my doubts. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2016, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6499 "2016-09-15T04:37:29Z")
> [@GulfTiger](#): > > [The Boston Herald](http://www.bostonherald.com/news/columnists/howie_carr/2016/09/carr_some_quick_easy_steps_to_tell_if_you_re_a_deplorable) > > (If you’re typing to me) Some quick easy steps to tell if you’re a deplorable: [ul] [li]You think a woman’s worth is first and foremost described by her appearance[/li][li]You think African-Americans were better off on the plantation[/li][li]You think we should ban all Muslims from the country[/li][/ul] It’s got fuck-all to do with being on food stamps, knowing the words to the national anthem, or anything else like that, and Howie Carr is either an idiot for not understanding this, or a shitstain for intentionally misrepresenting it. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2016, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6500 "2016-09-15T04:58:25Z")
I’m gonna go with “shitstain” even tho I’ve never heard his name before today. What do I win? ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2016, 7:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6501 "2016-09-15T07:49:52Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > If Trump loses, blacks will kidnap white women from Walmart & rape them. Yes, [David Duke just said that.](http://bipartisanreport.com/2016/09/12/david-duke-if-hillary-wins-black-men-will-kidnap-white-women-from-walmart-rape-them-audio/). Yet Mike Pence can’t bring himself to call Duke deplorable. It’s sad though that the article you linked to just teed things up for the “alt-right” to “prove” their claims about media obfuscation. I’m referring to this passage: > [@](#): > > So, what does the Federal Bureau of Investigation [FBI] say about Duke’s claim? The FBI has records of who is committing the type of crime Duke fears and breaks it down by race. As it turns out, white people are the majority of criminals, by far. > > The results of the FBI Uniform Crime Reporting 2014 by race or subgroup indicate that when it comes to the total rapes committed, white people were guilty in 67.2 percent of the cases, while African-Americans committed less than one-third or 29.9 percent of them. In aggravated assault cases, whites were guilty in 63.7 percent of these incidents, and African-Americans were guilty in half of these cases, 33.1 percent of the time. > > In motor vehicle thefts, whites were guilty 66.5 percent of the time, and African-Americans committed less than a third or 30.7 percent of the crimes. In violent crime cases, white were guilty 59.4 percent of the time, and African Americans were guilty of 37.7 percent of the crimes. So an “alt-righter” reads this and snorts, “Vast majority? There are five times as many whites as blacks in this country, but whites don’t even commit twice as many crimes!” Now what are we on the left supposed to say back? This is just not helpful at all. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2016, 9:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6502 "2016-09-15T09:15:22Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > I’m gonna go with “shitstain” even tho I’ve never heard his name before today. > > What do I win? You win the nail which you have hit squarely on the head. I catch snippets of his radio show every once in a while. He’s one of these tough talking dicks who chuckles after every racist comment, followed closely by bitches and whines about liberals and elites calling him racist. He used to have a piece on his radio show where he would read names off the police blotter that sounded Hispanic. No other context, just, “Paco Rodriguez, shop-lifting, Jesus Gonzalez, driving without a license, Pedro Santiago, aggravated mopery …” etc. Yeah, he’s a real winner. He’s the guy who did the Native American whoop at a Trump rally to needle Elizabeth Warren. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901.md?page=324) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901.md?page=326)