# Donald Trump's 2016 General Election Campaign

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [May 4, 2016, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901 "2016-05-04T02:37:34Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Lord\_Feldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lord_feldon/32/341_2.png) [@Lord\_Feldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Feldon)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2016, 12:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6503 "2016-09-15T12:02:58Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Trump was at a majority-black church in Flint today, invited there by the pastor to speak about Flint and its problems. When he began mouthing his usual anti-Hillary nonsense, the pastor interrupted him and told him that wasn’t why he was there.
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> [http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/flint-pastor-cuts-off-trump-228172?cmpid=sf](http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/flint-pastor-cuts-off-trump-228172?cmpid=sf)

[The response:](http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/trump-flint-pastor-faith-green-timmons-228193) “She was so nervous. She was like a nervous mess, and so I figured something – I figured something was up, really.”

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2016, 12:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6504 "2016-09-15T12:29:01Z")

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> [@SlackerInc](#):
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> It’s sad though that the article you linked to just teed things up for the “alt-right” to “prove” their claims about media obfuscation. I’m referring to this passage:
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> So an “alt-righter” reads this and snorts, “Vast majority? There are five times as many whites as blacks in this country, but whites don’t even commit twice as many crimes!” Now what are we on the left supposed to say back? This is just not helpful at all. :smack:

Not to mention, that “white” statistic is pretty clearly including Hispanics.

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**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2016, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6505 "2016-09-15T12:44:49Z")

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> [@Lord\_Feldon](#):
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> [The response:](http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/trump-flint-pastor-faith-green-timmons-228193) “She was so nervous. She was like a nervous mess, and so I figured something – I figured something was up, really.”

Pffffft. Typical Trump projection. He was the one who was nervous, who folded immediately with his tail between his legs, and now he’s embarrassed about it.

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> [@CarnalK](#):
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> Not to mention, that “white” statistic is pretty clearly including Hispanics.

I didn’t even notice that but you are right! :smack:

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**Author:** ![TheStake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecae2f/32.png) [@TheStake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheStake)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2016, 12:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6506 "2016-09-15T12:51:01Z")

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Damn, that doesn’t look good on Trump.

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**Author:** ![MacCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maccat/32/216_2.png) [@MacCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacCat)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2016, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6507 "2016-09-15T13:17:09Z")

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> [@](#):
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> The results of the FBI Uniform Crime Reporting 2014 by race or subgroup indicate that when it comes to the total rapes committed, white people were guilty in 67.2 percent of the cases, while African-Americans committed less than one-third or 29.9 percent of them…

**Above quote truncated for brevity, not to isolate the crime of rape.**  
These are the percent found guilty. I’d like to see the stats of accusation percent vs. trial percent vs. conviction percent.

I don’t dispute higher percentages of blacks, or Latinos, commit crimes than whites, but not because of “race”. Other than white collar types, crime is more closely correlated to poverty and environmental situations, the very situations that so many minorities find themselves in. We also know of a high percentage of Asians coming from poverty and excelling in school and business. I don’t believe they are a superior “race”, but their culture promotes those values more than others.

When one believes that people commit more crimes _because_ they’re black or Latino, or less _because_ they’re Asian, that IS racism.

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2016, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6508 "2016-09-15T13:24:18Z")

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> [@SlackerInc](#):
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> Pffffft. Typical Trump projection. He was the one who was nervous, who folded immediately with his tail between his legs, and now he’s embarrassed about it.

> [@TheStake](#):
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> Damn, that doesn’t look good on Trump.

Really does remind us how petty he is. It didn’t need any catty response at all. She asked him not to do his stump speech, he says ok I’ll get back to Flint. End of story.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2016, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6509 "2016-09-15T13:50:12Z")

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[This is the look of a little girl regretting her decision to enter the Little Miss Flint competition.](https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10154587940727375&set=a.38409667374.46363.781642374&type=3&theater)

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2016, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6510 "2016-09-15T13:58:02Z")

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> [@MacCat](#):
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> When one believes that people commit more crimes _because_ they’re black or Latino, or less _because_ they’re Asian, that IS racism.

Thank you, Cpt Obvious. Lol. You realize what you were quoting was actually meant to rebut a David Duke claim who is unashamedly racist.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2016, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6511 "2016-09-15T14:01:45Z")

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> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> [This is the look of a little girl regretting her decision to enter the Little Miss Flint competition.](https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10154587940727375&set=a.38409667374.46363.781642374&type=3&theater)

The guy behind is prepared to reach into his shoulder holster if she makes any threatening moves.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2016, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6512 "2016-09-15T14:12:49Z")

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> [@TheStake](#):
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> Damn, that doesn’t look good on Trump.

Neither does lying like a whipped dog:

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> “I mean, everyone plays their games. It doesn’t bother me. I’ll tell you what made me feel good, the audience was saying let him speak, let him speak, and the audience was so great and these are mostly African-American people, phenomenal people and they want to see change,” Trump said

_This_ is the lying sack of shit you are voting for.

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**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2016, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6513 "2016-09-15T14:15:12Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> The guy behind is prepared to reach into his shoulder holster if she makes any threatening moves.

Given how blurry his left hand is, it looks like he’s reaching for _something_.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2016, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6514 "2016-09-15T14:17:17Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Neither does lying like a whipped dog: _This_ is the lying sack of shit you are voting for.

“OK, so he’s a liar, a thief, a racist, and an amoral poltroon! But you guys make it out like those are bad things!”

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2016, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6515 "2016-09-15T14:26:30Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Neither does lying like a whipped dog: _This_ is the lying sack of shit you are voting for.

And he’s on video! The whole thing is on video! What in the Wide World of Sports makes him think he can get away with this?

Oh. . . yeah. . . the fact that he’s gotten away with it hundreds of times already and none of his supporters ever hold him accountable. That’s why. I forgot.

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**Author:** ![TheStake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecae2f/32.png) [@TheStake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheStake)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2016, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6516 "2016-09-15T14:29:02Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Neither does lying like a whipped dog: _This_ is the lying sack of shit you are voting for.

Are you saying you are surprised that a politician lies?

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2016, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6517 "2016-09-15T14:30:44Z")

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> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> [This is the look of a little girl regretting her decision to enter the Little Miss Flint competition.](https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10154587940727375&set=a.38409667374.46363.781642374&type=3&theater)

“This photo op went very well. Astonishingly well. The African-Americans are always very happy to see me.”

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2016, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6518 "2016-09-15T14:31:24Z")

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> [@TheStake](#):
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> Are you saying you are surprised that a politician lies?

No, I’m saying what I posted.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2016, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6519 "2016-09-15T14:32:04Z")

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The important thing to remember is that both sides do it.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2016, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6520 "2016-09-15T14:33:08Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> “OK, so he’s a liar, a thief, a racist, and an amoral poltroon! But you guys make it out like those are bad things!”

“Poltroon” is a word we haven’t heard nearly enough this year.

Ivanka Trump cuts short an interview when she decides that the facts reflect “negativity”: [http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/15/politics/ivanka-trump-cosmo-interview/index.html](http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/15/politics/ivanka-trump-cosmo-interview/index.html)

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2016, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6521 "2016-09-15T14:45:37Z")

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Darn! It was an interview with _Cosmopolitan_ that was cut short, before we could get Ivanka’s stance on multiple orgasms!

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2016, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6522 "2016-09-15T14:47:15Z")

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> [@TheStake](#):
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> Are you saying you are surprised that a politician lies?

Please tell us again why you have decided not to vote for Clinton?

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