# Donald Trump's 2016 General Election Campaign

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [May 4, 2016, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901 "2016-05-04T02:37:34Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2016, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6563 "2016-09-16T03:37:54Z")

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> [@GulfTiger](#):
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> It looks like a false flag hoax.
> 
> [lawyer for man accused of attacking woman at trump rally claims she’s lying](http://wlos.com/news/local/lawyer-for-man-accused-of-attacking-woman-at-trump-rally-claims-shes-lying)
> 
> Pathetic.

Oh my, the lawyer hired by the man claims the old lady is lying. Welp, case closed!

Hey maybe it happened, maybe it didn’t. But I don’t think the attorney being paid to defend the guy gets the final say here.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2016, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6564 "2016-09-16T04:00:19Z")

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Yet more proof that America is broken, and needs a man like Trump to Make It Great Again!

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**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2016, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6565 "2016-09-16T04:05:58Z")

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> [@ChickenLegs](#):
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> You realize that this works both ways, right?
> 
> Clinton’s aides who smashed smart phones with hammers to keep evidence from the FBI could plead the fifth, and Clinton’s voters will still just say “Trump says mean things”.
> 
> Oh wait…bad example.

Yes, bad example.

> **[Actually, Clinton Should Have Destroyed Her Phones Better](https://www.wired.com/2016/09/actually-clinton-destroyed-phones-better/)**
>
> Politics aside, the best way to destroy data is often physical destruction---ideally, "a blender and fire."

This would be a hell of false equivalence if there was actually any meat to it (another pseudoscandal that has no effect on Clinton’s ability to govern), but there’s really nothing there. This is pretty much SOP when it comes to getting rid of old hardware.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2016, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6566 "2016-09-16T04:07:53Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Yet more proof that America is broken, and needs a man like Trump to Make It Great Again!

All he needs is a campaign ad where he’s riding a white horse.

Shirtless.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2016, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6567 "2016-09-16T04:11:54Z")

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Perhaps something on a Wagnerian theme? “Kill the Wabbit, kill the WABBIT!”

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2016, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6568 "2016-09-16T04:16:00Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> All he needs is a campaign ad where he’s riding a white horse.
> 
> Shirtless.

There isn’t enough spray-tan.

Or brain bleach.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2016, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6569 "2016-09-16T04:19:56Z")

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I left out the part where his hair is flowing in the wind.

The Wagnerian chant would be “Lock her up! Lock her up!”

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2016, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6570 "2016-09-16T05:48:44Z")

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I didn’t see [this](http://elections.ap.org/content/trump-signed-improper-charity-check-supporting-florida-ag) get mentioned in the thread yet:[

> [@](#):
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> Donald Trump’s signature, an unmistakable if nearly illegible series of bold vertical flourishes, was scrawled on the improper $25,000 check sent from his personal foundation to a political committee supporting Florida Attorney General Pam Bondi.
> 
> Charities are barred from engaging in political activities, and the Republican presidential nominee’s campaign has contended for weeks that the 2013 check from the Donald J. Trump Foundation was mistakenly issued following a series of clerical errors. Trump had intended to use personal funds to support Bondi’s re-election, his campaign said.
> 
> So, why didn’t Trump catch the purported goof himself when he signed the foundation check?

]([http://elections.ap.org/content/trump-signed-improper-charity-check-supporting-florida-ag](http://elections.ap.org/content/trump-signed-improper-charity-check-supporting-florida-ag))  
Yeah, why didn’t he look at what he was signing? One of his lawyers explains (boding mine):

> [@](#):
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> Trump lawyer Alan Garten offered new details about the transaction to The Associated Press on Thursday, after a copy of the Sept. 9, 2013, check was released by New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman.
> 
> Garten said the billionaire businessman personally signs hundreds of checks a week, and that he simply didn’t catch the error.
> 
> “He traditionally signs a lot of checks,” said Garten, who serves as in-house counsel for various business interests at Trump Tower in New York City. “ **It’s a way for him to monitor and keep control over what’s going on in the company**. It’s just his way. … I’ve personally been in his office numerous times and seen a big stack of checks on his desk for him to sign.”

Well, I’d say he’s not too fucking good at monitoring and keeping control over what’s going on in the company if he isn’t even reading the fucking things he’s signing.

Isn’t that rule #1 of business: “don’t sign anything you haven’t read and understood”?

I predict this news will have no measurable effect on voters. :(:mad:

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**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2016, 6:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6571 "2016-09-16T06:42:25Z")

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> [@even\_sven](#):
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> Did I read this right? This guy is against women having the right to vote?  
> Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

He’s not the only alt-right man who thinks that, either.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2016, 11:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6572 "2016-09-16T11:49:06Z")

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[It seems that a section of the interview where Trump talks about how much he like to kiss his daughter was edited out of _The Dr. Oz Show_.](https://www.yahoo.com/tv/dr-oz-show-edits-creepy-donald-trump-kissing-202328937.html)  
Nothing creepy about that, nosiree.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2016, 11:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6573 "2016-09-16T11:59:22Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> I didn’t see [this](http://elections.ap.org/content/trump-signed-improper-charity-check-supporting-florida-ag) get mentioned in the thread yet:[url=[http://elections.ap.org/content/trump-signed-improper-charity-check-supporting-florida-ag](http://elections.ap.org/content/trump-signed-improper-charity-check-supporting-florida-ag)]  
> Yeah, why didn’t he look at what he was signing? One of his lawyers explains (boding mine):  
> Well, I’d say he’s not too fucking good at monitoring and keeping control over what’s going on in the company if he isn’t even reading the fucking things he’s signing.
> 
> Isn’t that rule #1 of business: “don’t sign anything you haven’t read and understood”?
> 
> I predict this news will have no measurable effect on voters. :(:mad:

That’s just it – either he’s corrupt (probably) and/or incompetent (probably). In other words he’s a combination of corrupt and incompetent…but he’s gonna make this country great again.

Sadly, however, I tend to agree that this will get lip glossed by the media, who want the election to be more about entertainment than politics. The media basically allow Trump and the right wing to live in a parallel universe in which they are essentially two truths: a truth based on scientific and measurable fact, and “truth” based on whatever people want to see.

Just this week we have the release of data showing that we’ve had the strongest middle class gains in years. This is on top of a fairly strong economic record over 8 years – certainly stronger than the preceding 8 years. Yet more and more, we have people rejecting it simply by shrugging and claiming that the stats are manipulated by the government. They wouldn’t say that if they were running the government though. Conservative facts are the only reliable facts. Nazism anyone?

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**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2016, 12:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6574 "2016-09-16T12:23:08Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> …Sadly, however, I tend to agree that this will get lip glossed by the media, who want the election to be more about entertainment than politics. The media basically allow Trump and the right wing to live in a parallel universe in which they are essentially two truths: a truth based on scientific and measurable fact, and “truth” based on whatever people want to see…

Reminds me of the local media during hurricane season. No Houstonian \*really \*wants a hurricane to hit. There can be serious destruction in our coastal communities & widespread minor damage in the city–leading to _long_ power outages. (A few weeks with no AC?)

But it’s well known that Dan Rather’s career got a boost when he covered Hurricane Carla. Hurricane Ike gave us 24/7 coverage of weather & storm stories, with lots of dramatic air time for the news & weather reporters. (I lost power quite briefly–then had days off with no cable or internet. Lots of broadcast news!)

These reporters are generally sane folks. But they get wild looks in their eyes when a storm enters the Gulf…

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2016, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6575 "2016-09-16T12:59:03Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> [It seems that a section of the interview where Trump talks about how much he like to kiss his daughter was edited out of _The Dr. Oz Show_.](https://www.yahoo.com/tv/dr-oz-show-edits-creepy-donald-trump-kissing-202328937.html)  
> Nothing creepy about that, nosiree.

He kinda-sorta joked about wanting to date his daughter during an appearance on _The View_ a few years ago, too: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diMp241gAcw](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diMp241gAcw).

No incest issues there, noperoonie.

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**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2016, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6576 "2016-09-16T15:29:55Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> [Trump is still a birther.](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-birther_us_57db31d1e4b04a1497b37811?section=&)

Just saw this in the [Washington Post](https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2016/09/16/donald-trump-is-a-racist-conspiracy-theorist-dont-let-him-lie-his-way-out-of-it/?utm_term=.1d1d6b14ec73):

> [@](#):
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> Asked by the Post’s Robert Costa whether he believes Obama was born in Hawaii, Trump replied: “I’ll answer that question at the right time. I just don’t want to answer it yet.” Trump added that he does not talk about birtherism anymore, because he would rather talk about issues. His campaign subsequently released a statement that said:
> 
> ```
> "Hillary Clinton’s campaign first raised this issue to smear then-candidate Barack Obama in her very nasty, failed 2008 campaign for President….In 2011, Mr. Trump was finally able to bring this ugly incident to its conclusion by successfully compelling President Obama to release his birth certificate. Mr. Trump did a great service to the President and the country by bringing closure to the issue that Hillary Clinton and her team first raised. Inarguably, Donald J. Trump is a closer. Having successfully obtained President Obama’s birth certificate when others could not, Mr. Trump believes that President Obama was born in the United States."
> 
> ```
> 
> The idea that Clinton first raised the birther issue is a lie, and it should not be forgotten that this is a lie that Trump has told repeatedly. Beyond that, though, this statement’s suggestion that Trump was the hero who brought this issue to a conclusion, by forcing Obama to show his papers — and let’s face it, this is really about demanding that the first African American president show his papers, just like any other undocumented immigrant Trump would deport because his presence in the U.S. is illegitimate — hints at where this is all going. Trump may well try to bring this issue to a close by saying in his big announcement that he is the one who settled it.

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**Author:** ![parovoz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8e8cbc/32.png) [@parovoz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/parovoz)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2016, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6577 "2016-09-16T16:13:05Z")

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Another lying corrupt c\*nt of a politician endorses Trump’s views, calls for building of the wall (cutely calling it “physical barrier”)

[![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYiQIMtygiI)

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**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2016, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6578 "2016-09-16T16:17:29Z")

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[quote=“parovoz, post:6577, topic:753901”]

Another lying corrupt c\*nt of a politician endorses Trump’s views, calls for building of the wall (cutely calling it “physical barrier”)

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It’s usually considered in very poor taste to use terms like “cunt” to describe women. Did she also endorse his rank racism, sexism, and hateful rhetoric?

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**Author:** ![parovoz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8e8cbc/32.png) [@parovoz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/parovoz)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2016, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6579 "2016-09-16T16:17:35Z")

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Trump supporters invade a safe space in a Canadian university, violently wearing offensive baseball caps.

> **[Donald Trump 'Make America Great Again' hat causes stir at MRU](https://calgaryherald.com/news/local-news/donald-trump-make-america-great-again-hat-causes-stir-at-mru)**
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> Concern over “safe spaces” at a Calgary university boiled over into a confrontation this week between two students, one of whom was wearing a “Make America…

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**Author:** ![parovoz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8e8cbc/32.png) [@parovoz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/parovoz)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2016, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6580 "2016-09-16T16:18:36Z")

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> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#):
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> It’s usually considered in very poor taste to use terms like “cunt” to describe women. Did she also endorse his rank racism, sexism, and hateful rhetoric?

When a politician endorses Trump’s racist calls to build a wall in such a hateful manner, as depicted in the video, “c\*nt” is the most appropriate term.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2016, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6581 "2016-09-16T16:25:51Z")

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> [@parovoz](#):
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> When a politician endorses Trump’s racist calls to build a wall in such a hateful manner, as depicted in the video, “c\*nt” is the most appropriate term.

This didn’t happen.

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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2016, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6582 "2016-09-16T16:26:34Z")

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> [@parovoz](#):
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> When a politician endorses Trump’s racist calls to build a wall in such a hateful manner, as depicted in the video, “c\*nt” is the most appropriate term.

“Cunt” is never the most appropriate term, no matter which side of the aisle you’re on.

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