# Donald Trump's 2016 General Election Campaign

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [May 4, 2016, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901 "2016-05-04T02:37:34Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6743 "2016-09-19T18:16:51Z")

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> [@TheStake](#):
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> Think what you will. I have no issues with liberals. However the liberal views of this board are very elitist. The people jump straight to name calling and it is horrid behavior.

Did you just join the internet?

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**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6744 "2016-09-19T18:17:22Z")

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> [@TheStake](#):
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> Think what you will. I have no issues with liberals. However the liberal views of this board are very elitist. The people jump straight to name calling and it is horrid behavior.

Sorry, I missed this. What names have people on this board called you?

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**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6745 "2016-09-19T18:19:06Z")

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> [@TheStake](#):
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> Another reason I feel I am going to vote for Trump is all of you elitists. Judgmental elitists. Not the side I wanna be on. I always heard that said about the right, but this board has shown me it is far more predominant on the left.

I’m realizing now that “patriotism” is not the last refuge. Yelling “elitist” comes after it on that particular scale towards what’s at the endpoint of that thinking. Is this a name? Sorry.

People disagree with you. If they think they’re right that doesn’t make them elitist. It may make them principled and concerned, but who wants to admit that, even anonymously. It’s just a cop out. But you have to look inside for what’s at the center of it.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6746 "2016-09-19T18:19:42Z")

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> [@Locrian](#):
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> There’s another word: Elitist. You want to say liberal, open-minded, well-informed people, but elitist is easier.
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> DEF: a person who believes that a system or society should be ruled or dominated by an elite.  
> synonyms: aristocrat, blue blood; snob
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> Sounds like elitist fits Trumpy Wumpy better than us.

Open minded? Lol. More like hive minded.

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**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6747 "2016-09-19T18:20:50Z")

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> [@TheStake](#):
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> Another reason I feel I am going to vote for Trump is all of you elitists. Judgmental elitists. Not the side I wanna be on. I always heard that said about the right, but this board has shown me it is far more predominant on the left.

Oh, come on. You came here a devoted Trump fan. (Last month.)

Please–just give some specific ways that you’re sure The Clinton Supremes would damage the country. Yes, they _might_ allow _some_ regulations of _some_ sorts of arms–but I doubt Amendment Two is in any danger.

Can’t you come up with _anything_ else? I’m not an “elitist” asking you to shut up. I’m just asking you to _express yourself._

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**Author:** ![TheStake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecae2f/32.png) [@TheStake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheStake)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6748 "2016-09-19T18:23:04Z")

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> [@CarnalK](#):
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> Did you just join the internet?

No. Most places I have been you can have an intelligent conversation. Here, I can not. I like Trump.

Guy 1: Racist  
Guy 2: Stupid  
Etc, Etc.

Real life people are not that fucking ignorant. I have long talks with my liberal coworker. He is a 55 year old, black, Jehovahs witness, and over the years has become one of my closest friends. We agree to disagree, joust points and ponder. Without having to call each other names. This is supposed to be a place that fights ignorance, yet it seems to be full of those that do not see ignorance in the mirror and tout it from the mountain tops. I have had to show people in real life how stupid liberals are on the internet. How stupidly dangerous they are using this cite. I have convinced almost all of my Cruz buddies we have to go Trump and will continue. My strength was never bolstered enough with care, until I met you guys.

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**Author:** ![Ambrosio\_Spinola](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9de0a6/32.png) [@Ambrosio\_Spinola](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambrosio_Spinola)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6749 "2016-09-19T18:24:20Z")

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> [@TheStake](#):
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> Think what you will. I have no issues with liberals. However the liberal views of this board are very elitist. The people jump straight to name calling and it is horrid behavior.

Well, if you’re concerned about name calling then it would make sense that Trump would be your guy. Oh, wait, you’re _against_ name calling? May want to look back at the past five years or so.

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6750 "2016-09-19T18:25:58Z")

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Like what places? Where is your go to place for reasonable political discussion?

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6751 "2016-09-19T18:27:42Z")

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> [@TheStake](#):
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> No. Most places I have been you can have an intelligent conversation. Here, I can not. I like Trump.

Then why do you persist in this pretense that you were pro-Clinton(or at least undecided) until we supposedly offended you and made you change your mind?

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**Author:** ![TheStake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecae2f/32.png) [@TheStake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheStake)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6752 "2016-09-19T18:28:01Z")

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Nope, we passed rational discussion. If I wanted to deal with assholes, I could have done that on facebook. I’ll stay out of this thread.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6753 "2016-09-19T18:29:15Z")

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> [@TheStake](#):
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> Another reason I feel I am going to vote for Trump is all of you elitists. Judgmental elitists. Not the side I wanna be on. I always heard that said about the right, but this board has shown me it is far more predominant on the left.

Relying on analysis of facts, rather than feelings of fear is “elitist”. Education is “elitist” Science is “elitist”. Statistics are “elitist”

OK then.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6754 "2016-09-19T18:30:32Z")

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> [@TheStake](#):
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> Nope, we passed rational discussion. If I wanted to deal with assholes, I could have done that on facebook. I’ll stay out of this thread.

And I guess that sums it up right there. Sorry to confuse you with facts. Keep on feeling that everyone is out to get you.

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**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6755 "2016-09-19T18:30:38Z")

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> [@TheStake](#):
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> No. Most places I have been you can have an intelligent conversation. Here, I can not. I like Trump.
> 
> Guy 1: Racist  
> Guy 2: Stupid  
> Etc, Etc.
> 
> Real life people are not that fucking ignorant. I have long talks with my liberal coworker. He is a 55 year old, black, Jehovahs witness, and over the years has become one of my closest friends. We agree to disagree, joust points and ponder. Without having to call each other names. This is supposed to be a place that fights ignorance, yet it seems to be full of those that do not see ignorance in the mirror and tout it from the mountain tops. I have had to show people in real life how stupid liberals are on the internet. How stupidly dangerous they are using this cite. I have convinced almost all of my Cruz buddies we have to go Trump and will continue. My strength was never bolstered enough with care, until I met you guys.

This is your perfect opportunity to make your case for Donald, esp as against Hillary. Most people here would be all ears if you would.

Why is Donald OK withholding tax and medical info, and lying (about many many things including birtherism, his businesses etc.). And why is Hillary held to standards of disclosure that are not in the same universe?

You have an audience here who watches and reads each day, speechless at the idea of supporting the guy. Here we are…we are engaged and curious.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6756 "2016-09-19T18:32:21Z")

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> [@TheStake](#):
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> Think what you will. I have no issues with liberals. However the liberal views of this board are very elitist. The people jump straight to name calling and it is horrid behavior.

> [@TheStake](#):
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> Nope, we passed rational discussion. If I wanted to deal with assholes, I could have done that on facebook. I’ll stay out of this thread.

The irony. It burns!

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6757 "2016-09-19T18:32:51Z")

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> [@TheStake](#):
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> Nope, we passed rational discussion. If I wanted to deal with assholes, I could have done that on facebook. I’ll stay out of this thread.

You’ve made your accusations, and now you leave.  
If you decide to come back, could you explain how all the nasty comments about Clinton slipped your notice?

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6758 "2016-09-19T18:34:12Z")

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> [@TheStake](#):
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> …I have convinced almost all of my Cruz buddies we have to go Trump and will continue. My strength was never bolstered enough with care, until I met you guys.

Two questions: how did you manage to remain uncontaminated by liberal views until you wandered onto this Board? And how did that come about? Its not like the SDMB is famous.

And you and your buddies were Cruzers? But he didn’t win, so now you’re on board with Trump? Did you wander onto the Boards during an interval, is that when you were considering Hillary?

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**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6759 "2016-09-19T18:39:39Z")

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> [@Bridget\_Burke](#):
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> Please–just give some specific ways that you’re sure The Clinton Supremes would damage the country. Yes, they _might_ allow _some_ regulations of _some_ sorts of arms–but I doubt Amendment Two is in any danger.

We have had “some regulation of some sort of arms” for decades now. If you didn’t already know that firearm selling and purchasing has numerous laws and regulations around it, then maybe we should start by fighting that ignorance. The particular type of regulation I am convinced HRC’s Supreme Court picks would support, which I don’t like, are state-level bans on semi-auto weapons of various configurations. They’d probably uphold confiscations as well.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6760 "2016-09-19T18:47:58Z")

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> [@TheStake](#):
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> Nope, we passed rational discussion.

Aye, we pretty much did that when you decided to base your conclusions on your “feelings”, despite having nothing to base those feelings on.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6761 "2016-09-19T18:48:58Z")

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> [@HurricaneDitka](#):
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> We have had “some regulation of some sort of arms” for decades now. If you didn’t already know that firearm selling and purchasing has numerous laws and regulations around it, then maybe we should start by fighting that ignorance. The particular type of regulation I am convinced HRC’s Supreme Court picks would support, which I don’t like, are state-level bans on semi-auto weapons of various configurations. They’d probably uphold confiscations as well.

What has convinced you of those things? Specifically, what has Mrs. Clinton said and/or done that has convinced you of those things? Who do you think she might put on the SCOTUS and what have they said and/or done to convince you of those things?

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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6762 "2016-09-19T18:50:48Z")

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> [@TheStake](#):
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> Nope, we passed rational discussion. If I wanted to deal with assholes, I could have done that on facebook. I’ll stay out of this thread.

Do not resort to name-calling of other posters names outside The BBQ Pit. (Implying that one’s opponents are assholes qualifies as name calling.)

Do not do this again.

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