# Donald Trump's 2016 General Election Campaign **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [May 4, 2016, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901 "2016-05-04T02:37:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 339
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6763 "2016-09-19T19:08:39Z")
Feelings! Woe, woe, woe, feelings! I don’t hesitate to admit that I am not an android or a Vulcan, my feelings about issues are significant. When someone tells me what a rational and intelligent choice it would be to murder the families of our enemies, my feelings leap out first and shout “NO! Fuck, no!” But the rational supports that. Killing your enemies is one way to have fewer enemies. But everyone you kill makes an enemy of everyone who loved them. Kill one enemy, make ten more. When someone says lets be suspicious, legally and officially suspicious of people from an Islamic religious heritage. Its wrong to hurt people like that, to judge them suspicious from no other crime than how they think. It hurts them, you must not hurt people unless you have _no_ other choice. Rationally, that’s wrong because it plays into the hands of our enemies. Our enemies depend on selling the War on Islam as a propaganda point. indeed, they depend to the point of their very existence! How more stupid can we be than to underscore and verify our enemy’s lies? Where is the logic of that? Its a happy fact of being leftish that our humane feelings and our reasoning humanism coincide so neatly. Lucky us! Our opponents do as well, if our enemies don’t hate us enough, we will help them out! I offer the startling notion that bad feelings and bad thinking lead to bad results. Crazy, I know… ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6764 "2016-09-19T19:14:43Z")
I don’t want Hillary to win because she might appoint a judge who could possibly uphold a ban that doesn’t exist on a weapon I don’t even own. Better play it safe and go with the narcissistic Reality TV star instead. Makes as much sense as any other reason to vote for Trump, I suppose. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6765 "2016-09-19T19:17:29Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > Your article calls it a “meltdown”, but he seemed rather calm and collected in the interview (at least, by normal Trump standards). His answer was far from precise, and probably leaves leftists particularly unsatisfied, but it wasn’t the worst response he has ever given. I guess I might define the word differently than [news.groopspeak.com](http://news.groopspeak.com) does, and given a quick skim of their other headlines, it seems like par for the course, but I don’t think it was a “meltdown”. You’ll note that I did not characterize it as a meltdown, I was pointing out his words, and associating his words with a video which shows the interactions. You can ignore the hyperbole in the headline and in the article, but the video speaks for itself. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6766 "2016-09-19T19:22:21Z")
> [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > I don’t want Hillary to win because she might appoint a judge who could possibly uphold a ban that doesn’t exist on a weapon I don’t even own. Better play it safe and go with the narcissistic Reality TV star instead. > > Makes as much sense as any other reason to vote for Trump, I suppose. You left out “\*\*\*I feel that \*\*\*she might appoint …” ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6767 "2016-09-19T19:23:44Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > What has convinced you of those things? Specifically, what has Mrs. Clinton said and/or done that has convinced you of those things? [“Clinton believes Heller was wrongly decided …”](http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-05-20/hillary-clinton-believes-pivotal-gun-rights-ruling-was-wrong-adviser-says) [“… certainly the Australia example is worth looking at”](http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/dem-primaries/257172-hillary-australia-style-gun-control-worth-looking-at) > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > Who do you think she might put on the SCOTUS and what have they said and/or done to convince you of those things? In general, more judges similar to Ginsburg, Breyer, Sotomayor, and Kagan. Basically, judges that are opposed to the McDonald and Heller decisions and would likely overturn them if they could, or re-interpret them to leave them meaningless. Specifically, [http://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/289643-clintons-court-shortlist-emerges](http://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/289643-clintons-court-shortlist-emerges) gives some pretty good guesses: Merrick Garland, Sri Srinivasan, Jane Kelly, Paul Watford, Goodwin Liu, Mariano Florentino Cuéllar, Lucy Koh, Patricia Ann Millet, Amy Klobuchar, Corey Booker, etc. Sorry, but I don’t have time to look up cites for each of the potential nominees right now. ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6768 "2016-09-19T19:25:57Z")
> [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > I don’t want Hillary to win because she might appoint a judge who could possibly uphold a ban that doesn’t exist on a weapon I don’t even own. Plenty of state-level bans exist, and on weapons that I own (although obviously I don’t live in those states). ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6769 "2016-09-19T19:29:15Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > [“Clinton believes Heller was wrongly decided …”](http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-05-20/hillary-clinton-believes-pivotal-gun-rights-ruling-was-wrong-adviser-says) > > [“… certainly the Australia example is worth looking at”](http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/dem-primaries/257172-hillary-australia-style-gun-control-worth-looking-at) > > In general, more judges similar to Ginsburg, Breyer, Sotomayor, and Kagan. Basically, judges that are opposed to the McDonald and Heller decisions and would likely overturn them if they could, or re-interpret them to leave them meaningless. > > Specifically, [http://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/289643-clintons-court-shortlist-emerges](http://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/289643-clintons-court-shortlist-emerges) gives some pretty good guesses: Merrick Garland, Sri Srinivasan, Jane Kelly, Paul Watford, Goodwin Liu, Mariano Florentino Cuéllar, Lucy Koh, Patricia Ann Millet, Amy Klobuchar, Corey Booker, etc. > > Sorry, but I don’t have time to look up cites for each of the potential nominees right now. And have you done any research as to which people Trump is considering for the SC? ---
**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6770 "2016-09-19T19:29:46Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > We have had “some regulation of some sort of arms” for decades now. If you didn’t already know that firearm selling and purchasing has numerous laws and regulations around it, then maybe we should start by fighting that ignorance. The particular type of regulation I am convinced HRC’s Supreme Court picks would support, which I don’t like, are state-level bans on semi-auto weapons of various configurations. They’d probably uphold confiscations as well. So, is that your _only_ issue? Don’t you have anything else you can be specific about? ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6771 "2016-09-19T19:31:23Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > They’d probably uphold confiscations as well. And they’re probably all Wiccans, and will outlaw Christianity. At least that what I feel, so if you tell me otherwise, you’re elitist. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6772 "2016-09-19T19:33:02Z")
The very best! Top men! Top _persons_, men _and_ woman. Women! Lots of them! Can’t give you names and qualifications, because that would be tipping my hand, but the best! And not just Christians, but Mormons and Catholics as well! ---
**Author:** ![Yersenia\_Pestis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/e495f1/32.png) [@Yersenia\_Pestis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yersenia_Pestis)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6773 "2016-09-19T19:54:02Z")
Single issue voters (i.e. 2nd amendment or abortion) truly piss me off… You would vote for someone solely base on 1 stupid issue that, lets face it, won’t ever really change (see guns: no one is coming after them, they should but NO one is)… You are willing to risk economic disaster, global embarrassment (of electing an idiot) and potential global havoc (screwing with our decades long allies in NATO, playing into Russia’s hands…) Ugh… don’t even get me started at how much damage someone like Trump can do to our planet’s environment by his complete lack of caring… think about future generations, is your fear of losing your stupid guns really worth all of this?! !! ---
**Author:** ![TheStake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecae2f/32.png) [@TheStake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheStake)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6774 "2016-09-19T19:56:17Z")
If it is just one annoying issue, wouldn’t it seem if that Hillary would say she plans not to trample on said issue, she would contrive more votes? I know it would make a difference for me. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6775 "2016-09-19T20:01:19Z")
> [@TheStake](#): > > If it is just one annoying issue, wouldn’t it seem if that Hillary would say she plans not to trample on said issue, she would contrive more votes? I know it would make a difference for me. I’m pretty sure she has spoken out on the issue, multiple times. In fact, her position is: Expand background checks to more gun sales—including by closing the gun show and internet sales loopholes—and strengthen the background check system by getting rid of the so-called “Charleston Loophole.” Take on the gun lobby by removing the industry’s sweeping legal protection for illegal and irresponsible actions (which makes it almost impossible for people to hold them accountable), and revoking licenses from dealers who break the law. Keep guns out of the hands of domestic abusers, other violent criminals, and the severely mentally ill by supporting laws that stop domestic abusers from buying and owning guns, making it a federal crime for someone to intentionally buy a gun for a person prohibited from owning one, and closing the loopholes that allow people suffering from severe mental illness to purchase and own guns. She will also support work to keep military-style weapons off our streets. Seems pretty reasonable to me. Pretty sure the majority of Americans would support those positions. ---
**Author:** ![TheStake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecae2f/32.png) [@TheStake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheStake)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6776 "2016-09-19T20:03:51Z")
Those seem pretty reasonable to me as well… Cite? I have read something quite different myself… I will try to find it to give a cite. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6777 "2016-09-19T20:04:08Z")
> [@TheStake](#): > > If it is just one annoying issue, wouldn’t it seem if that Hillary would say she plans not to trample on said issue, she would contrive more votes? I know it would make a difference for me. Enough of a difference to change your vote? Is this the only thing stopping you from voting for her…or are there more hoops for her to jump through? ---
**Author:** ![TheStake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecae2f/32.png) [@TheStake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheStake)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6778 "2016-09-19T20:04:58Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Enough of a difference to change your vote? is this the only thing stopping you from voting for her? No it is not, but I think it is a very big one for me. ETA: Also I apologize for throwing my bitch fit. I know it does not mean much probably, but I still felt it necessary. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6779 "2016-09-19T20:06:51Z")
> [@TheStake](#): > > No it is not, but I think it is a very big one for me. Well, give us the whole list. I want to see if there is a _real_ possibility for you to vote for her. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6780 "2016-09-19T20:07:13Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > [“Clinton believes Heller was wrongly decided …”](http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-05-20/hillary-clinton-believes-pivotal-gun-rights-ruling-was-wrong-adviser-says) First, that statement did not come from Mrs. Clinton. You were asked what things Mrs. Clinton has said and/or done, not what other people associated with Mrs. Clinton have said and/or done. Second, let’s look at the whole statement: > [@](#): > > “Clinton believes Heller was wrongly decided in that cities and states should have the power to craft common sense laws to keep their residents safe, like safe storage laws to prevent toddlers from accessing guns,” Maya Harris, a policy adviser to Clinton, said in an e-mailed statement. “In overturning Washington D.C.'s safe storage law, Clinton worries that Heller may open the door to overturning thoughtful, common sense safety measures in the future.” Do you believe that toddlers should legally be able to access guns? What is it about a law preventing people from storing guns where toddlers can get them that you believe is bad? > [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > [“… certainly the Australia example is worth looking at”](http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/dem-primaries/257172-hillary-australia-style-gun-control-worth-looking-at) Well, at least this came from Mrs. Clinton. What is it about considering this policy that you don’t like? Why do you think it is unreasonable to look into? Has she made any statements about wanting an Australian-style policy, or are you afraid to even look into it? If statistics and the like showed it was ineffective, do you think Mrs. Clinton would nevertheless support implementing such a policy? > [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > In general, more judges similar to Ginsburg, Breyer, Sotomayor, and Kagan. Basically, judges that are opposed to the McDonald and Heller decisions and would likely overturn them if they could, or re-interpret them to leave them meaningless. > > Specifically, [http://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/289643-clintons-court-shortlist-emerges](http://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/289643-clintons-court-shortlist-emerges) gives some pretty good guesses: Merrick Garland, Sri Srinivasan, Jane Kelly, Paul Watford, Goodwin Liu, Mariano Florentino Cuéllar, Lucy Koh, Patricia Ann Millet, Amy Klobuchar, Corey Booker, etc. > > Sorry, but I don’t have time to look up cites for each of the potential nominees right now. Well, I have even less time. In fact, I have no time to support your positions for you. I’m not aware of any of these people publicly opposing McDonald or Heller, so I cannot fathom how you’ve reached your conclusions. Heck, your own cite shows that Mrs. Clinton has not named anyone she might consider for the SCOTUS should she win the election: > [@](#): > > Clinton has refused to name names when it comes to the court, saying only that Congress should confirm President Obama’s nominee, Merrick Garland. So where did you get those names? How did you reach your conclusions? ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6781 "2016-09-19T20:10:15Z")
> [@TheStake](#): > > Those seem pretty reasonable to me as well… > Cite? > I have read something quite different myself… I will try to find it to give a cite. [Here](https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/gun-violence-prevention/)you go. Edit: more detailed summary [here](https://www.hillaryclinton.com/briefing/factsheets/2015/10/04/clinton-believes-its-time-to-tackle-gun-violence/). ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6782 "2016-09-19T20:10:24Z")
> [@TheStake](#): > > Those seem pretty reasonable to me as well… > Cite? > I have read something quite different myself… I will try to find it to give a cite. That’s from her campaign website: > **[Gun violence prevention - The Office of Hillary Rodham Clinton](https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/gun-violence-prevention/)** [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901.md?page=338) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901.md?page=340)