# Donald Trump's 2016 General Election Campaign

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [May 4, 2016, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901 "2016-05-04T02:37:34Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6783 "2016-09-19T20:10:58Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> The very best! Top men! Top _persons_, men _and_ woman. Women! Lots of them!

Binders full?

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6784 "2016-09-19T20:12:45Z")

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How could we dare follow the example of Australia, the Texas of the Pacific. Now, with these laws, their animal life comes in but three varieties: animals that will kill you and eat you, animals that will only kill you and the insufferably adorable! Don’t let that happen here!

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6785 "2016-09-19T20:16:47Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> How could we dare follow the example of Australia, the Texas of the Pacific. Now, with these laws, their animal life comes in but three varieties: animals that will kill you and eat you, animals that will only kill you and the insufferably adorable! Don’t let that happen here!

Your ratio of coherent to incoherent posts has taken a noticeable slide towards the latter.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6786 "2016-09-19T20:17:00Z")

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Trump attacks Hillary for wanting to repeal the Second Amendment, [but he admitted today that he wants to repeal the First Amendment](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-freedom-of-expression_us_57dfde58e4b04a1497b54f2f).

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6787 "2016-09-19T20:22:26Z")

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> [@CarnalK](#):
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> Your ratio of coherent to incoherent posts has taken a noticeable slide towards the latter.

Bereft. Inconsolable.

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**Author:** ![TheStake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecae2f/32.png) [@TheStake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheStake)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6788 "2016-09-19T20:23:53Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Well, give us the whole list. I want to see if there is a _real_ possibility for you to vote for her.

I want Obamacare overturned or at least fixed.  
I think that the people who came into America illegally should be deported (as they have broke the law). I am not saying I am against immigration, but it should be legal. For the large part of my family that is Filipino, it is something worth doing correctly.  
I hate the deal with Iran. I have seen argument points about how it will slow them down, but I thought the embargos were doing just fine.  
I do not want this Obama apologizing for America business. (Japan)  
I was very skeptical of the gay marriage thing, because of possible legal issues, but none have arisen. So I can’t say anything bad there, because everyone deserves happiness.  
I feel like she will not lead a war on ISIS correctly. Not against muslims in general. As I fear Trump will. (Sadly for both points)  
I feel like she has been, and will continue, to use her position to amplify her foundation.  
I also fear that there is a lot of information out there that can be used against her. (Talking email leaks)  
Then of course the 2nd amendment issues that I have.

Those are the issues I am working for and that I aim to find the straight dope on.  
I never expected my choices to be between Trump and Hillary, so I am still learning as much as I can. Most information seems biased and leaning one way or another. I can make a list equally long about things that I do not like about Trump, however I feel that I am stuck in this position, because of that list.

Sorry If my list is ignorant. I do not claim to have any of that in fact. That is why I am on here reading constantly. My outburst earlier was because I feel like the name calling and shit is pointless. Someone telling me Trump and his supporters are everything that the “deplorables” are. I feel that over using words like that take away their power.

So tear me apart I suppose, but I felt obliged for running my mouth, to at least give my reasons, and maybe find some enlightenment.

Sorry, figured I would add going home. I will be on to check, read, and reply tomorrow. Gnite folks.

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6789 "2016-09-19T20:30:52Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Bereft. Inconsolable.

Your response to people pointing out your incoherence, however, has remained rock steady for over a decade.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6790 "2016-09-19T20:32:39Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Trump attacks Hillary for wanting to repeal the Second Amendment, [but he admitted today that he wants to repeal the First Amendment](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-freedom-of-expression_us_57dfde58e4b04a1497b54f2f).

He’s not going to repeal the First Amendment – that would take too much time. He’ll just start trying to politicize the DoJ and attempt to find political support for congressional laws or executive orders that have a serious chilling effect on free speech and then dare the courts to stop him. He’ll ignore court orders. To paraphrase a quote attributed to Andrew Jackson: the courts have made their ruling - now let them enforce it.

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**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6791 "2016-09-19T20:33:53Z")

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> [@TheStake](#):
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> Those seem pretty reasonable to me as well…  
> Cite?  
> I have read something quite different myself… I will try to find it to give a cite.

Easy.  
[Down at the bottom.](http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/11/politics/hillary-clinton-gun-control-second-amendment/)

[QUOTE=Hillary Clinton]  
“I’m not looking to repeal the Second Amendment. I’m not looking to take people’s guns away. But I am looking for more support for the reasonable efforts that need to be undertaken to keep guns out of the wrong hands.”  
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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6792 "2016-09-19T20:34:52Z")

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> [@CarnalK](#):
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> Your response to people pointing out your incoherence, however, has remained rock steady for over a decade.

And its quite simple: don’t read them. I’ll get over it.

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**Author:** ![TheStake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecae2f/32.png) [@TheStake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheStake)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6793 "2016-09-19T20:35:09Z")

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> [@Chisquirrel](#):
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> Easy.  
> [Down at the bottom.](http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/11/politics/hillary-clinton-gun-control-second-amendment/)

That open type of speech isn’t enough for me. “Wrong hands” is up to the interpreter.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6794 "2016-09-19T20:42:57Z")

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> [@TheStake](#):
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> That open type of speech isn’t enough for me. “Wrong hands” is up to the interpreter.

Which description of “wrong hands” that Mrs. Clinton has used to find objectionable and vague?

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> We may have our disagreements on gun safety regulations, but we should all be able to agree on a few things. If the FBI is watching you for suspected terrorist links, you shouldn’t be able to just go buy a gun with no questions asked. You shouldn’t be able to exploit loopholes and evade criminal background checks by buying online or at a gun show. And yes, if you’re too dangerous to get on a plane, you are too dangerous to buy a gun in America.

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> Keep guns out of the hands of domestic abusers, other violent criminals, and the severely mentally ill by supporting laws that stop domestic abusers from buying and owning guns, making it a federal crime for someone to intentionally buy a gun for a person prohibited from owning one, and closing the loopholes that allow people suffering from severe mental illness to purchase and own guns.

Is it the suspected terrorists, the domestic abusers, the violent criminals or the severely mentally ill?

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**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6795 "2016-09-19T20:49:02Z")

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> [@TheStake](#):
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> No. Most places I have been you can have an intelligent conversation. Here, I can not. I like Trump.

Translation: I won’t accept as “intelligent” any robust criticism or rebuttal of my preferred reality-denying echo chamber.

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**Author:** ![snoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/43a26b/32.png) [@snoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snoe)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6796 "2016-09-19T20:49:48Z")

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Nm

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6797 "2016-09-19T20:52:12Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> And its quite simple: don’t read them. I’ll get over it.

Yeah, I get it buddy. That is exactly the same as your sarcastic “bereft. Inconsolable” line. Like I said, rock steady. Now please continue with how koala bears have something to do with what we’re talking about.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6798 "2016-09-19T21:05:14Z")

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> [@TheStake](#):
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> That open type of speech isn’t enough for me. “Wrong hands” is up to the interpreter.

That is quite a long(and rather vague) list you’ve got there. It seems that when you said that first step would go “a long way”, what you meant was that it would be a long way along an unending road.

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**Author:** ![Anny\_Middon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bc79bd/32.png) [@Anny\_Middon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anny_Middon)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6799 "2016-09-19T21:11:53Z")

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> [@HurricaneDitka](#):
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> My reasons have nothing to do with race. I’d like to see him win because he’s more likely to pick Supreme Court justices with whom I agree than HRC.

According to the National Review (hardly a liberal publication) [you might want to rethink that.](http://www.nationalreview.com/article/438669/)

After discussing how Supreme Court picks over the next presidency won’t matter nearly as much as some would have you believe, the article goes on:

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> What Trump supporters refuse to do is weigh it against another clear and present danger to our constitutional order: a President Donald J. Trump. Trump’s potential abuses are numerous — and, unlike most presidential hopefuls, widely advertised. He has suggested that he will prosecute journalists who write unfavorable stories about his administration. He is open to “shutting down” parts of the Internet. (Might this be a free-speech violation? Only “foolish people” would suggest that.) The prospective commander-in-chief has declared that he would force American troops to commit war crimes. And he has said that he has no qualms about using executive orders much like President Obama has done (only Trump’s will be “better”). Trump’s dismissiveness toward the Constitution is in excess of anything Barack Obama displayed in 2008 or 2012.

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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6800 "2016-09-19T21:34:53Z")

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I’m getting “page not found” on that link, but [here’s another one](http://www.nationalreview.com/article/438669/donald-trump-supreme-court-trump-card-argument-flawed-hillary-clinton-may-not-be).

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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6801 "2016-09-19T21:45:05Z")

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> [@CarnalK](#):
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> Yeah, I get it buddy. That is exactly the same as your sarcastic “bereft. Inconsolable” line. Like I said, rock steady. Now please continue with how koala bears have something to do with what we’re talking about.

Both of you give it a rest or take it to the Pit. Your choice.

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**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6802 "2016-09-19T21:48:02Z")

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> [@Yersenia\_Pestis](#):
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> Single issue voters (i.e. 2nd amendment or abortion) truly piss me off…
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> You would vote for someone solely base on 1 stupid issue that, lets face it, won’t ever really change (see guns: no one is coming after them, they should but NO one is)…
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> You are willing to risk economic disaster, global embarrassment (of electing an idiot) and potential global havoc (screwing with our decades long allies in NATO, playing into Russia’s hands…)
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> Ugh… don’t even get me started at how much damage someone like Trump can do to our planet’s environment by his complete lack of caring… think about future generations, is your fear of losing your stupid guns really worth all of this?! !!

Ah, Yes the single issue voter. I really think the single issue voter is just not willing to tell you what the second and third issues are. Am I being unreasonable?

The big single issues are abortion and second amendment I suppose. They love those voters, because they are never watching the money.

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