# Donald Trump's 2016 General Election Campaign

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [May 4, 2016, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901 "2016-05-04T02:37:34Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![TheStake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecae2f/32.png) [@TheStake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheStake)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2016, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6863 "2016-09-20T13:36:36Z")

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Very well stated **Budget Player Cadet** …

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**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2016, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6864 "2016-09-20T14:30:51Z")

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> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> Then you misremember. Simply Google “M&Ms #YesAllWomen”
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> But even if “the Internet” didn’t get up in arms about it back then, I repeat: “And…?”

No point, really. Just confirming that I was right about the history of stupid candy-based analogies.

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**Author:** ![Ambrosio\_Spinola](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9de0a6/32.png) [@Ambrosio\_Spinola](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambrosio_Spinola)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2016, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6865 "2016-09-20T15:26:49Z")

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The Washington Post has continued to dig through the Trump Foundation records and revealed today that Trump has [used at least $258,000](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-used-258000-from-his-charity-to-settle-legal-problems/2016/09/20/adc88f9c-7d11-11e6-ac8e-cf8e0dd91dc7_story.html) from this charitable foundation to fund settlements for his for-profit businesses.

Note that while it may be good business to solicit charitable donations from other people and use them to pay your personal obligations so you don’t have to spend your own money on it, it is not legal to do so.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2016, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6866 "2016-09-20T16:02:34Z")

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> [@oft\_wears\_hats](#):
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> Well, it’s ok to skip due process when you know the guy is guilty. Don’t worry, Trump will only do that for the guilty ones.

Whew. Color me relieved!

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**Author:** ![Anny\_Middon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bc79bd/32.png) [@Anny\_Middon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anny_Middon)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2016, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6867 "2016-09-20T16:14:01Z")

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> [@pulykamell](#):
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> I’m getting “page not found” on that link, but [here’s another one](http://www.nationalreview.com/article/438669/donald-trump-supreme-court-trump-card-argument-flawed-hillary-clinton-may-not-be).

Thanks! Obviously I didn’t check my link.:o

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**Author:** ![Anny\_Middon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bc79bd/32.png) [@Anny\_Middon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anny_Middon)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2016, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6868 "2016-09-20T16:24:19Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> And that’s the conundrum that many find themselves in this election cycle. I don’t think it’s worth $800/year in my pocket to have a reality star clown who does not give much thought to actual policy in the whitehouse.

I question whether anybody will actually end up with the 0.8% tax savings. It seems that many times a reduction in the federal tax rate has also meant a reduction in the amount of money the federal government provides to the states. The states, needing to continue to provide services, end up raising taxes to pay for those services.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2016, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6869 "2016-09-20T16:30:51Z")

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Invade a country, take their stuff! Mexico would be good, if they actually had some stuff to take. But close by, that’s a good thing! Gee, if only we could think of a country that is _really_ close by, and has a bunch of stuff.

Hmmmm. Ponder, ponder…

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**Author:** ![leftfield6](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leftfield6/32/18780_2.png) [@leftfield6](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leftfield6)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2016, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6870 "2016-09-20T16:34:19Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Invade a country, take their stuff! Mexico would be good, if they actually had some stuff to take. But close by, that’s a good thing! Gee, if only we could think of a country that is _really_ close by, and has a bunch of stuff.
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> Hmmmm. Ponder, ponder…

I could use a little extra maple syrup, know what I’m sayin’?

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2016, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6871 "2016-09-20T16:35:04Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Quote:  
> Originally Posted by Loser Donald  
> Well you know, the New York Times wrote a story about women and the women called the office and said, ‘We never said that about Donald Trump. We really like him. He’s really good.’ They quoted women and they never even said it. It was on the front page, centerfold, massive big color picture. It was disgraceful. They are so dishonest. I’ll tell you what. There is nobody that respects women more than Donald Trump.

What’s funny is that he said “centerfold” when he probably meant “above the fold.” Centerfold is not a term usually associated with respect for women.

\*for those of you too young to remember magazines, _Playboy_ was a magazine that contained interesting articles and photographs of naked women. The centerfold was an extra large photo in the center that folded out for more naked goodness.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2016, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6872 "2016-09-20T16:56:11Z")

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> [@Procrustus](#):
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> What’s funny is that he said “centerfold” when he probably meant “above the fold.”…

Hey, good catch! Totally missed that.

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**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2016, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6873 "2016-09-20T17:00:11Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Whew. Color me relieved!

Only if you’re white.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2016, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6874 "2016-09-20T17:51:26Z")

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> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> Then you misremember. Simply Google “M&Ms #YesAllWomen”
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> But even if “the Internet” didn’t get up in arms about it back then, I repeat: “And…?”

The meme changed from M&M to Skittles when Trayvon Martin was gunned down in the street carrying a bag of Skittles. But not racist.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2016, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6875 "2016-09-20T17:57:18Z")

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[In Donald and Ivana’s divorce proceedings, it was alleged that Trump liked to wander around clicking his heels together and saying “Heil Hitler”. And he kept a copy of Hitler’s speeches by his bedside.](http://www.vanityfair.com/magazine/2015/07/donald-ivana-trump-divorce-prenup-marie-brenner)

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> Donald Trump appears to take aspects of his German background seriously. John Walter works for the Trump Organization, and when he visits Donald in his office, Ivana told a friend, he clicks his heels and says, “Heil Hitler,” possibly as a family joke.
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> Last April, perhaps in a surge of Czech nationalism, Ivana Trump told her lawyer Michael Kennedy that from time to time her husband reads a book of Hitler’s collected speeches, My New Order, which he keeps in a cabinet by his bed. Kennedy now guards a copy of My New Order in a closet at his office, as if it were a grenade. Hitler’s speeches, from his earliest days up through the Phony War of 1939, reveal his extraordinary ability as a master propagandist.

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**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2016, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6876 "2016-09-20T18:07:23Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> The meme changed from M&M to Skittles when Trayvon Martin was gunned down in the street carrying a bag of Skittles. But not racist.

I have an adopted forclosure cat named Skittles. I often have to look for / call that stupid cat when it gets dark…

One day awhile back it occurred to me that yelling Skittles! might not be taken by the black family down the street in the best light…:smack:

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2016, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6877 "2016-09-20T18:19:28Z")

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> [@](#):
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> …Hitler’s speeches, from his earliest days up through the Phony War of 1939, reveal his extraordinary ability as a master propagandist.

A genius at crowd energy, feeling them out, detecting what they would respond to. Build up energy, back down a bit, let them breathe, build again, back down, then head full steam to a thundering crescendo. There are pictures of him rehearsing his various gestures in front of a mirror. Especially the one with standing, arms crossed, chin thrust, and letting the crowd energy pour over him, and waiting for just the moment when it began to wane, and…cut if off. Let them down to a simmer, rebuild…

I’ve been told by native Germans that reading his speeches…they seem stupid, your mind wanders. But see the same speech as filmed, and it moves you. He didn’t care what you thought, long as he could make you _feel_. Dark magic. The horror.

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2016, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6878 "2016-09-20T18:22:59Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> The meme changed from M&M to Skittles when Trayvon Martin was gunned down in the street carrying a bag of Skittles. But not racist.

I’d love to know how you came to that conclusion. The bowl of M&Ms meme came into swing in 2014 with the #yesallwomen thing. Trayvon Martin was killed in 2012, before the Syrian refugee crisis was really on the Western radar.

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**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2016, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6879 "2016-09-20T18:24:47Z")

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> [@billfish678](#):
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> I have an adopted forclosure cat named Skittles. I often have to look for / call that stupid cat when it gets dark…
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> One day awhile back it occurred to me that yelling Skittles! might not be taken by the black family down the street in the best light…:smack:

Unless their last name is Martin, I don’the know why they’d care.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2016, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6880 "2016-09-20T18:52:36Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> [In Donald and Ivana’s divorce proceedings, it was alleged that Trump liked to wander around clicking his heels together and saying “Heil Hitler”. And he kept a copy of Hitler’s speeches by his bedside.](http://www.vanityfair.com/magazine/2015/07/donald-ivana-trump-divorce-prenup-marie-brenner)

That article says his friend addressed The Donald as Hitler. Pronoun-noun agreement and all that stuff can be tricky.  
This part is the important part though.

> [@](#):
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> I wandered down to the pressroom on the fifth floor to hear about Trump’s testimony. The reporters sounded weary; they had heard it all before. “Goddamn it,” one shouted at me, “we created him! We bought his bullshit! He was always a phony, and we filled our papers with him!”
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> I thought about the last questions Donald Trump had asked me the day before on the telephone. “How long is your article?” “Long,” I said. Trump seemed pleased. “Is it a cover?” he asked

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**Author:** ![Lok](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e8c25b/32.png) [@Lok](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lok)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2016, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6881 "2016-09-20T19:29:44Z")

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> [@Anny\_Middon](#):
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> I question whether anybody will actually end up with the 0.8% tax savings. It seems that many times a reduction in the federal tax rate has also meant a reduction in the amount of money the federal government provides to the states. The states, needing to continue to provide services, end up raising taxes to pay for those services.

Back after W’s tax cuts, and after the unfunded No Child Left Behind stuff, the local school system got a 1% income tax passed to try and pay for stuff they were required to do but couldn’t afford. A coworker complained about it, saying the federal government lowered his taxes and the local government should do the same.

I pointed out the Feds lowered the money, but increased the expenses, and the school needed money from somewhere. He replied that they should just do it, and stop taking his money.

I don’t work there anymore, but I’m afraid I know who he will be voting for.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2016, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/6882 "2016-09-20T19:34:13Z")

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> [@CarnalK](#):
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> I’d love to know how you came to that conclusion. The bowl of M&Ms meme came into swing in 2014 with the #yesallwomen thing. Trayvon Martin was killed in 2012, before the Syrian refugee crisis was really on the Western radar.

> **[Trump Jr. Tweets Illiterate Racist Meme Comparing Refugee Children To Skittles](https://crooksandliars.com/2016/09/trump-jr-tweets-illiterate-stupid-meme)**
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> Donald Trump, Jr. can no longer be this stupid. It's intentional.

> **[Trump Jr's 'Skittles' tweet is based on two different white supremacist memes...](https://www.rawstory.com/2016/09/trump-jrs-skittles-tweet-is-based-on-two-different-white-supremacist-memes/)**
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> Donald Trump Jr. drew widespread condemnation for comparing Syrian refugees to poisoned candy -- but his analogy isn't a new one, and it's based on two separate white supremacist memes with roots in Nazi propaganda.READ MORE: Donald Trump Jr....

> **[Poor taste: Donald Trump Jr. distracts from refugee crisis by giving rowdy...](https://twitchy.com/brettt/2016/09/19/poor-taste-donald-trump-jr-distracts-from-refugee-crisis-by-giving-rowdy-social-network-a-bowl-of-skittles-n535786)**
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