# Donald Trump's 2016 General Election Campaign

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [May 4, 2016, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901 "2016-05-04T02:37:34Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2016, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/7323 "2016-09-27T19:57:26Z")

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Howard is trolling Trump. Good for him. I’d feel differently if it was a candidate who hadn’t been using the same tactics as his stock and trade for years.

This is the job of allies and distant surrogates, not for the candidate herself. Troll away, surrogates, troll away.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2016, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/7324 "2016-09-27T19:57:27Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> Oh, Howard, and just when I’ve been saying nice things about you in other threads.
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> Seriously, I like Howard Dean, always have, but why do straight shooters also have to shoot off at the mouth so often? Can’t there ever be a disciplined straight shooter or is that an oxymoron?

Well, people are talking about it. And the [comedians sure picked up on it](http://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2016/09/donald-trump-debate-sniffles-stephen-colbert-trevor-noah):

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> “For months now, Donald Trump has questioned Hillary’s health—repeatedly,” Colbert said. “And I’ve gotta say, there was one possible health scare on stage tonight. Trump sounded like he was fighting off a cold—uh, with cocaine.”

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2016, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/7325 "2016-09-27T20:01:58Z")

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[Perhaps this is Trump’s dealer:](http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/celebrity/the-donald-and-the-dealer-173892) Joseph Weichselbaum- A man who Trump said (at his sentencing hearing for cocaine distribution) was “conscientious, forthright, and diligent” and "a credit to the community.”

A man who was convicted of cocaine distribution, income tax charges, grand theft auto and the embezzlement of more than $130,000 from a Brooklyn manufacturing firm.

But a good buddy of Trump’s.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2016, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/7326 "2016-09-27T20:02:07Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> The coordinator for Trump campaign refunds is Helen Waite. If you want your money back, go to Helen Waite.

A wise guy, eh? Why I oughta… Nyuk-nyuk-nyuk!!

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2016, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/7327 "2016-09-27T20:09:35Z")

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In the land of Twitter, Donald Trump posted this at 8:17am:

“The #1 trend on Twitter right now is #TrumpWon - thank you!”

> <https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/780758306239512577>

4 hours later, doing an analysis on the hashtag, it was found that the hashtag originated and started trending from St. Petersburg, Russia:

[https://twitter.com/DustinGiebel/status/780814613021548544](https://twitter.com/DustinGiebel/status/780814613021548544)

[Reaction was swift.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gP3MuUTmXNk)

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**Author:** ![Sam\_Lowry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Sam\_Lowry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Lowry)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2016, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/7328 "2016-09-27T20:10:05Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> Howard is trolling Trump. Good for him. I’d feel differently if it was a candidate who hadn’t been using the same tactics as his stock and trade for years.
> 
> This is the job of allies and distant surrogates, not for the candidate herself. Troll away, surrogates, troll away.

I agree, it’s clear trolling by Dean and I’m okay with it, considering how it’s Trump’s strategy and how everyone has made such a big deal about Clinton’s “health issues.” Also since instead of admitting like a regular human being that he had a cold or allergy problems, Trump said that it was a bad mic.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2016, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/7329 "2016-09-27T20:12:45Z")

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How long did it take him to find that out? What, he couldn’t say “Hey, this mike bites it, get me another!”?

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2016, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/7330 "2016-09-27T20:12:45Z")

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Dean wasn’t the only one trolling about Trump’s drug use last night. God knows I did my best to plant the seeds of the idea in both FB and Twitter, and it did get riffed on a few times.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2016, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/7331 "2016-09-27T20:16:33Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> How long did it take him to find that out? What, he couldn’t say “Hey, this mike bites it, get me another!”?

My theory is that the sound guy rubbed the mike on his balls before setting it up, and Trump could not believe the smell that was coming off of it.

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**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2016, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/7332 "2016-09-27T21:05:31Z")

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For what it’s worth, the front page at [foxnews.com](http://foxnews.com) appears to be in full fledged panic mode.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2016, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/7333 "2016-09-27T21:16:08Z")

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OK, made me look. Not seeing the panic, where is it?

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**Author:** ![duality72](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duality72/32/3910_2.png) [@duality72](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duality72)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2016, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/7334 "2016-09-27T21:45:55Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> OK, made me look. Not seeing the panic, where is it?

Well, there is a pretty full-fledged effort in practically every front-page story to deny reality (Trump lost), but it is hard to tell how different that is from their usual.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2016, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/7335 "2016-09-27T21:51:06Z")

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> [@Fiveyearlurker](#):
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> For what it’s worth, the front page at [foxnews.com](http://foxnews.com) appears to be in full fledged panic mode.

Screw whoever won or lost-their humongous headline reads “DEBATE NIGHT DRAWS BIG MONEY  
Campaign has raised more than $13 million in past 24 hours, Trump says”

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**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2016, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/7336 "2016-09-27T21:56:46Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> OK, made me look. Not seeing the panic, where is it?

Non editted, cut and pasted top headlines currently on [foxnews.com](http://foxnews.com):

DEBATE NIGHT DRAWS BIG MONEY  
Campaign has raised more than $13 million in past 24 hours, Trump says

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CHECK YOURSELF: 2003 video shows Trump, not Holt, right on candidate's Iraq War stance

FLASHBACK VIDEO: Flashback: Trump voices reservations about invasion of Iraq

IN THE TANK? 6 ways Lester Holt helped Hillary in debate | GLOVES OFF: Trump vows to 'hit her harder' next time

VIDEO: Clinton and Holt against Trump? | TRUMP ON COKE? Sniffles prompt bizarre charge from Howard Dean

TODD STARNES: If Trump's record on women is fair game, then so is Hillary's, plus 5 more debate takeaways

NEWT GINGRICH: Trump won the debate. Don't believe the "Intellectual Yet Idiot" class

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2016, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/7337 "2016-09-27T21:59:46Z")

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Every headline has “Trump” in it. Hillary is an afterthought.

OK, it looks like Trump opposed the Iraq invasion in one interview, and supported it in another. I guess that’s settled, then.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2016, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/7338 "2016-09-27T22:08:51Z")

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Shit, give that one to him, big deal. So, we shouldn’t have invaded, but once we did we should have taken their oil? And when the new government said they didn’t want us to stay, we should have said “Fuck you, that’s our oil, you get your sand off of it! And soon as its all gone, we will be too!”

That might have had one upside, maybe, if their hatred of us brought the Sunni and Shia together. Gotta admit, the man has got vision! Hallucination. Something.

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**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2016, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/7339 "2016-09-27T22:11:23Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> OK, it looks like Trump opposed the Iraq invasion in one interview, and supported it in another. I guess that’s settled, then.

For Holt’s confident accusation, and all the “Trump lies constantly” stuff I read on here, I was actually quite shocked that there is actually a video of Trump opposing the Iraq war like he said there was.

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**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2016, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/7340 "2016-09-27T22:14:06Z")

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> [@Fiveyearlurker](#):
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> For what it’s worth, the front page at [foxnews.com](http://foxnews.com) appears to be in full fledged panic mode.

I think this is just you seeing what you want to see. I don’t see anything there I’d call “panic mode”. Maybe you’re reading “NEWT GINGRICH: Trump won the debate. Don’t believe the “Intellectual Yet Idiot” class” as panic?

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**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2016, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/7341 "2016-09-27T22:15:15Z")

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> [@HurricaneDitka](#):
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> For Holt’s confident accusation, and all the “Trump lies constantly” stuff I read on here, I was actually quite shocked that there is actually a video of Trump opposing the Iraq war like he said there was.

There’s also one of him supporting the Iraq war like he says he didn’t. You don’t get to call both heads and tails on a coin toss and then claim victory when the results come in.

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2016, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/7342 "2016-09-27T22:16:29Z")

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> [@HurricaneDitka](#):
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> For Holt’s confident accusation, and all the “Trump lies constantly” stuff I read on here, I was actually quite shocked that there is actually a video of Trump opposing the Iraq war like he said there was.

I’m pretty sure Trump both supports and opposes every position of every issue.

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