# Donald Trump's 2016 General Election Campaign

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [May 4, 2016, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901 "2016-05-04T02:37:34Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2016, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/7343 "2016-09-27T22:16:36Z")

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> [@HurricaneDitka](#):
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> I think this is just you seeing what you want to see. I don’t see anything there I’d call “panic mode”. Maybe you’re reading “NEWT GINGRICH: Trump won the debate. Don’t believe the “Intellectual Yet Idiot” class” as panic?

The fact that every single article is about how Trump actually won, and even if he didn’t win it’s because the system was rigged against him is panic mode.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2016, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/7344 "2016-09-27T22:19:03Z")

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No, not really, they would have had much the same if he actually had won. Only difference between “It was rigged!” and “It was rigged, and he won anyway!”.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2016, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/7345 "2016-09-27T22:21:53Z")

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> [@Evil\_Economist](#):
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> I’m pretty sure Trump both supports and opposes every position of every issue.

Hell, that’s just being “smart.”

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**Author:** ![skdo23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@skdo23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/skdo23)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2016, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/7346 "2016-09-27T22:29:02Z")

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> [@davidm](#):
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> Howard Dean is suggesting the Trump’s behavior and sniffling last night _might_ be indicative of coke use.  
> [x.com](https://twitter.com/GovHowardDean/status/780588448470163456)
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> He tweeted it and he was just now on MSNBC talking about it. He does say that he’s just speculating and has no proof.
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> I’ve been thinking for a while now that Trump sometimes acts like he’s on something like speed or coke.

There is some credibility here. I’m not sure if this is common knowledge, but Howard Dean is an MD, who actually was still in private practice while serving as the Lt. Gov. of my home state of Vermont during the late 80s-early 90s.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2016, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/7347 "2016-09-27T22:30:17Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> Every headline has “Trump” in it. Hillary is an afterthought.
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> OK, it looks like Trump opposed the Iraq invasion in one interview, and supported it in another. I guess that’s settled, then.

“Odd to see entire GOP apparatus now bent on proving nominee’s nonexistent opposition to GOP-led war.” [https://twitter.com/buzzfeedandrew/status/780876238512615424](https://t.co/wy9dVTxXRy)

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2016, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/7348 "2016-09-27T22:32:05Z")

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> [@HurricaneDitka](#):
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> For Holt’s confident accusation, and all the “Trump lies constantly” stuff I read on here, I was actually quite shocked that there is actually a video of Trump opposing the Iraq war like he said there was.

> [@Fiveyearlurker](#):
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> There’s also one of him supporting the Iraq war like he says he didn’t. You don’t get to call both heads and tails on a coin toss and then claim victory when the results come in.

There’s also a video of him saying we should just pack up and leave Iraq.

Same thing he condemns Obama and Clinton for doing.

And just as a reminder, Pence also voted for the Iraq war, same as Hillary is accused of.

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2016, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/7349 "2016-09-27T22:32:19Z")

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> [@skdo23](#):
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> There is some credibility here. I’m not sure if this is common knowledge, but Howard Dean is an MD, who actually was still in private practice while serving as the Lt. Gov. of my home state of Vermont during the late 80s-early 90s.

That does not make it remotely credible unless Dean used to work at a rehab center and got his official television diagnosis license.

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**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2016, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/7350 "2016-09-27T22:32:32Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> I can see starting a new unified election thread…but _merging_ the two threads instead would have been a catastrophic sight to see, wouldn’t it?

I think it might have lead to a few mental meltdowns, if not a software meltdown.

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**Author:** ![skdo23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@skdo23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/skdo23)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2016, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/7351 "2016-09-27T22:36:16Z")

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> [@CarnalK](#):
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> That does not make it remotely credible unless Dean used to work at a rehab center and got his official television diagnosis license.

Point taken, I guess I was just grasping at straws.

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**Author:** ![skdo23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@skdo23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/skdo23)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2016, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/7352 "2016-09-27T22:37:46Z")

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**JohnT,** great to see you back in the Elections forum.

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**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2016, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/7353 "2016-09-27T23:13:55Z")

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If you google Trump amphetamines you’ll find a lot of articles claiming that he was hooked on amphetamine diet pills back in the 90s and speculating that he still uses them, but from what I can see none of them are what I’d consider reliable primary sources.

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2016, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/7354 "2016-09-28T00:29:19Z")

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> [@skdo23](#):
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> Point taken, I guess I was just grasping at straws.

Or does he prefer spoons?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2016, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/7355 "2016-09-28T04:19:19Z")

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Only if they’re silver, and someone else’s, and small enough to fit in his pockets when he’s visiting.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2016, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/7356 "2016-09-28T04:21:34Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Only if they’re silver, and someone else’s, and small enough to fit in his pockets when he’s visiting.

Hey, that’s just good business! If they didn’t want their stuff stolen, they shouldn’t have just left it out there. They’re the best spoons! The Best! And now they’re mine!

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**Author:** ![AnalogSignal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/analogsignal/32/1085_2.png) [@AnalogSignal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AnalogSignal)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2016, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/7357 "2016-09-28T04:55:58Z")

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It’s a beautiful thing. Just when Gold Star dad Khizr Khan has faded from view, CheetoFace is continuing to insult Alicia Machado for no reason. Calling a woman fat is a great way to drive away support from women and “Miss Housekeeping” is another insult to Latinos.

A bad microphone makes you sniff and drink lots of water. Sure Donny, tell us another one.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2016, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/7358 "2016-09-28T05:24:48Z")

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> [@AnalogSignal](#):
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> A bad microphone makes you sniff and drink lots of water. Sure Donny, tell us another one.

A bad mike that picks up the sound of breathing. That’s what he said, what we thought was sniffing was him breathing.

_sings_ The mikes are alive, with the sound of breathing! _sings_

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**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2016, 8:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/7359 "2016-09-28T08:50:27Z")

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> [@davidm](#):
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> If you google Trump amphetamines you’ll find a lot of articles claiming that he was hooked on amphetamine diet pills back in the 90s and speculating that he still uses them, but from what I can see none of them are what I’d consider reliable primary sources.

If he’s using diet pills, he should up the dose, because it seems they’re not working.  
Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

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**Author:** ![leftfield6](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leftfield6/32/18780_2.png) [@leftfield6](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leftfield6)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2016, 10:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/7360 "2016-09-28T10:10:10Z")

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> [@CarnalK](#):
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> That does not make it remotely credible unless Dean used to work at a rehab center and got his official television diagnosis license.

Those same official television diagnosis licenses that are apparently near-universal on the republican side, able to diagnose Hill’s Parkinson’s Disease, right? Because those are completely credible.

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**Author:** ![coremelt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@coremelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/coremelt)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2016, 11:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/7361 "2016-09-28T11:02:04Z")

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> [@davidm](#):
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> If you google Trump amphetamines you’ll find a lot of articles claiming that he was hooked on amphetamine diet pills back in the 90s and speculating that he still uses them, but from what I can see none of them are what I’d consider reliable primary sources.

IMO they are far more reliable sources than any claim that Clinton has seizures or some other mental issue. An investigative reporter obtained medical records showing that Trump was a regular visitor to a doctor notorious for handing out over prescriptions for amphetamine derivatives. His behaviour at the debate was also consistent with someone on some kind of amphetamine, dry mouth causing excessive water drinking and sniffing (even if it’s not snorted, this can happen from amphetamine usage). There is also quotes from people working for him that his behaviour was wildly different on his “Dr Greenberg Days” and everyone tried to avoid him on those days.

Sources: Lost Tycoon unauthorised autobiography and here:

[[Album] A 1992 article in Spy Magazine alleged that Trump was sought out amphetamines... ![](https://i.imgur.com/3RId9fg.png?fb "A 1992 article in Spy Magazine alleged that Trump was sought out amphetamines...") ](https://imgur.com/gallery/PqvRV)

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2016, 11:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/7362 "2016-09-28T11:05:56Z")

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> [@coremelt](#):
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> IMO they are far more reliable sources than any claim that Clinton has seizures or some other mental issue. An investigative reporter obtained medical records showing that Trump was a regular visitor to a doctor notorious for handing out over prescriptions for amphetamine derivatives. His behaviour at the debate was also consistent with someone on some kind of amphetamine, dry mouth causing excessive water drinking and sniffing (even if it’s not snorted, this can happen from amphetamine usage).

Is it possible he was given amphetamines to treat ADHD? Stimulants like Ritalin are frequently used to focus those with ADHD, and maybe they thought it was worth a try.

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