# Donald Trump's 2016 General Election Campaign

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [May 4, 2016, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901 "2016-05-04T02:37:34Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2016, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/7383 "2016-09-28T20:18:02Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> Cincinnati Enquirer, Dallas Morning News and Manchester Union-Leader are all endorsing Clinton, and for all of them it’s either the first or second Democrat they’ve ever endorsed.
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> Which sounds impressive, but I’m skeptical as to how much weight a newspaper endorsement carries these days, and how many undecided voters there still are who would be swayed.

I think an endorsement from a paper that normally supports your party anyway (an expected endorsement) does very little. But I suspect some of the ones this year may carry a little extra weight. Imagine if you will, a newspaper that has endorsed a Republican for president \*\*every single year since your great-grandfather was born \*\*that says the following:

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> Trump’s inability to control himself or be controlled by others represents a real threat to our national security. His recent efforts to stay on script are not reassuring. They are phony.
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> The president commands our nuclear arsenal. Trump can’t command his own rhetoric

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**Author:** ![skdo23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@skdo23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/skdo23)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2016, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/7384 "2016-09-28T20:24:10Z")

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> [@Siam\_Sam](#):
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> He could turn into a modern-day Clarence Darrow.

Was he the black guy on The Mod Squad?

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2016, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/7385 "2016-09-28T20:27:05Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> Guess we’ll have to see if the other 120 or so promised endorsements actually turn up. Anyone know the real story?

The real story? Trump is a fucking bullshit artist, who lies about pretty much anything and everything. If he told me it was currently sunny out, I’d put on a raincoat.

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2016, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/7386 "2016-09-28T20:30:37Z")

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> [@skdo23](#):
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> Was he the black guy on The Mod Squad?

That was his grandson.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2016, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/7387 "2016-09-28T21:17:34Z")

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[Immediately after saying in the debate that not paying taxes was smart, Trump denies saying it.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pN1E5ok8Wsw)

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2016, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/7388 "2016-09-28T21:36:35Z")

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Trump keeps saying that he won the CBS poll on the debate. [CBS didn’t do a poll](http://www.mediaite.com/tv/trump-repeatedly-cites-cbs-poll-saying-he-won-debate-which-doesnt-even-exist/).

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2016, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/7389 "2016-09-28T21:44:18Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Trump keeps saying that he won the CBS poll on the debate. [CBS didn’t do a poll](http://www.mediaite.com/tv/trump-repeatedly-cites-cbs-poll-saying-he-won-debate-which-doesnt-even-exist/).

Wrong CBS. He’s referring to the Constant BullShit poll.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2016, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/7390 "2016-09-28T21:45:07Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> He’s a different kind of candidate altogether.

But he DOESN’T know the TERRITORY!

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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2016, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/7391 "2016-09-28T21:45:47Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Trump keeps saying that he won the CBS poll on the debate. [CBS didn’t do a poll](http://www.mediaite.com/tv/trump-repeatedly-cites-cbs-poll-saying-he-won-debate-which-doesnt-even-exist/).

Well, a CBS affiliate did do an online poll, so there is at least a grain of truth in that, which is better than he usually does.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2016, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/7392 "2016-09-28T21:51:50Z")

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> [@pulykamell](#):
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> Well, a CBS affiliate did do an online poll, so there is at least a grain of truth in that, which is better than he usually does.

I wish people would stop calling these things “polls”.

They are click-bait online surveys, that are not designed to reveal anything of any accuracy or value.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2016, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/7393 "2016-09-28T21:52:09Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> But he DOESN’T know the TERRITORY!

_Trains lurches under braking for the station_

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2016, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/7394 "2016-09-28T21:58:41Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> But he DOESN’T know the TERRITORY!

He’s just a bang-beat, bell-ringing, big-haul, great-go, neck-or-nothing, rip-roarin’, every-time-a bull’s-eye salesman.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2016, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/7395 "2016-09-28T22:09:48Z")

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[Eric Trump will never forget his father’s courage for not bringing up Bill’s infidelities.](http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/eric-trump-proud-bill-clinton-debate)

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2016, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/7396 "2016-09-28T22:16:07Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> [Eric Trump will never forget his father’s courage for not bringing up Bill’s infidelities.](http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/eric-trump-proud-bill-clinton-debate)

He should do it in the next debates. I bet Clinton is totally, absolutely unprepared for any such attack! Really! Don’t worry about your failed marriages Donald - I bet these never come up.

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**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2016, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/7397 "2016-09-28T22:19:04Z")

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2016, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/7398 "2016-09-28T22:19:34Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> [Eric Trump will never forget his father’s courage for not bringing up Bill’s infidelities.](http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/eric-trump-proud-bill-clinton-debate)

“I’m so proud of my dad for suppressing his usual instinct to be a scumbag. I’ll never forget that moment.”

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**Author:** ![bucketybuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@bucketybuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bucketybuck)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2016, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/7399 "2016-09-28T22:26:29Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> Speaking of which, during the debate, Mr. Trump claimed he had, or was about to have, the endorsements of over 200 “admirals and generals”:
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> Presumably he’s talking about retired flag officers, since (I think) active-duty military aren’t allowed to make endorsements. All I could find in a quick search on this were some articles dating from earlier in September [(like this one)](http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/retired-generals-admirals-endorse-trump-227755) mentioning endorsements from **88** retired officers.
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> Guess we’ll have to see if the other 120 or so promised endorsements actually turn up. Anyone know the real story?

_"[Bill](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0378194/quotes): Nah, there weren’t really eighty-eight of them. They just called themselves “The Crazy 88.”_

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2016, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/7400 "2016-09-28T22:27:49Z")

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> [@Biffster](#):
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> [http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160928/353f65139ed3ca8f407eef72dba3e725.jpg](http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160928/353f65139ed3ca8f407eef72dba3e725.jpg)
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> Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

“I felt like I was watching the political Titanic hit the iceberg, back up, and hit it again. Just for fun.”  
David French-National Review

:D:D:D

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**Author:** ![Anny\_Middon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bc79bd/32.png) [@Anny\_Middon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anny_Middon)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2016, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/7401 "2016-09-28T22:34:18Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> I think an endorsement from a paper that normally supports your party anyway (an expected endorsement) does very little. But I suspect some of the ones this year may carry a little extra weight.

It appears you may be right. An article in [Time](http://time.com/4495371/newspaper-endorsements-2016-hillary-clinton-donald-trump-gary-johnson/) says that unexpected endorsement may matter. The article refers to [this National Bureau of Economic Research study.](http://www.nber.org/papers/w14445)

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2016, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/7402 "2016-09-28T22:35:26Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> He should do it in the next debates. I bet Clinton is totally, absolutely unprepared for any such attack! Really! Don’t worry about your failed marriages Donald - I bet these never come up.

I would suggest a slightly different response than directly mentioning his failed messages though. More along the lines of “I know Donald seemed to enjoy his love life being dragged through the tabloids back then but I’m not like him. I’m not going to drag out 20 years old lowpoints in my marriage”.

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