# Donald Trump's 2016 General Election Campaign

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [May 4, 2016, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901 "2016-05-04T02:37:34Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2016, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/7483 "2016-09-29T18:09:37Z")

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If she couldn’t meet her husband’s needs, how can she meet the country’s? It’s dumb but I have heard people say exactly that.

The other thing I think they’re doing is saying that Hillary mistreated Lewinsky and Flowers. I seem to recall hearing someone putting forth that idea recently. The whole incident was so long ago that I don’t recall if she actually attacked them or not, but it could be claimed that simply by defending her husband, or simply by staying with him, she was belittling their concerns, and therefore she’s not concerned about women’s issues. It’s a totally bogus and unfair line of attack but that doesn’t stop them.

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2016, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/7484 "2016-09-29T18:11:55Z")

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> [@Ravenman](#):
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> I’ve been puzzling over this for days now: just what the hell does Trump, or Guiliani, think there is to gain by attacking Hillary Clinton about Monica Lewinsky?

I think they want to bring up issues about how she handled the accusations, and in ways that she turned them around against his accusers.

I still don’t think that’s much of a winning hand, but it’s arguably better than “Her husband cheated on her so she is a loser!”

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2016, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/7485 "2016-09-29T18:14:32Z")

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> [@davidm](#):
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> And if he ends up being fined for this, he’ll probably try to pay it with Trump Foundation money.

People are saying that all this necessitates RICO indictments, otherwise too many agencies, jurisdictions, and other complications come in. It is obvious institutional attitudes regarding violating and flouting US laws have permeated both organisations up and down the org chart, they have brought other organizations into their web of crimes, all of which is pretty much the standard definition of a corrupt organization.

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**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2016, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/7486 "2016-09-29T18:15:51Z")

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The other thing they could be doing is trying to head off attacks on Trump about his infidelities. Reminding the country of Bill’s infidelity, and how Hillary (and a good portion of the country) has forgiven him, makes it seem hypocritical to attack Trump for his past.

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**Author:** ![Ambrosio\_Spinola](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9de0a6/32.png) [@Ambrosio\_Spinola](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambrosio_Spinola)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2016, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/7487 "2016-09-29T18:20:29Z")

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> [@Ravenman](#):
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> I’ve been puzzling over this for days now: just what the hell does Trump, or Guiliani, think there is to gain by attacking Hillary Clinton about Monica Lewinsky?

I think I’ve mentioned it before, but this is literally the one and only thing that many of the conservative Republican women of my acquaintance grudgingly respect HRC for. Standing by your man and working out your marriage is not considered a negative by them. This is a constituency Trump desperately needs, so I think this line of attack is insane.

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**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2016, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/7488 "2016-09-29T18:29:16Z")

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> [@davidm](#):
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> It’s nothing really new. It’s Republican SOP. Affirmative action hurts minorities. AFDC weakens families. Taxing the rich hurts the poor. Sex education causes STDs and teen pregnancy. Trees cause pollution. Stop and frisk is good for minorities. Climate change will boost crop growth and create economic opportunities. Deserts are wet. Oceans are dry. Etc. etc.

Sounds like the Ministry of Truth (whose main purpose is to perpetuates lies).  
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**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2016, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/7489 "2016-09-29T18:30:31Z")

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> [@jsgoddess](#):
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> I still don’t think that’s much of a winning hand, but it’s arguably better than “Her husband cheated on her so she is a loser!”

I can actually picture this.

Trump: “You’re a yuuggge loser. A tremendous loser. You’re so successful as a loser. You’re a better loser than anyone, believe me! Everyone is telling me this. You’re as big of a loser as my hands!”

He can’t help himself and, apparently, neither can his advisors. Hopefully, we can say this to Trump after the election.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2016, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/7490 "2016-09-29T18:32:16Z")

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As soon as I have no reason to worry about him, I will have no reason to think about him.

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**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2016, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/7491 "2016-09-29T18:50:44Z")

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> [@Ambrosio\_Spinola](#):
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> I think I’ve mentioned it before, but this is literally the one and only thing that many of the conservative Republican women of my acquaintance grudgingly respect HRC for. Standing by your man and working out your marriage is not considered a negative by them. This is a constituency Trump desperately needs, so I think this line of attack is insane.

I don’t think it is something strategically thought out. He uses it because he thinks it is a sore point and he doesn’t like being attacked, period. It’s a middle school level attempt at insulting her.

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**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2016, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/7492 "2016-09-29T19:15:25Z")

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> [@davidm](#):
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> The other thing they could be doing is trying to head off attacks on Trump about his infidelities. Reminding the country of Bill’s infidelity, and how Hillary (and a good portion of the country) has forgiven him, makes it seem hypocritical to attack Trump for his past.

That might make sense if they think the Clinton campaign has dirt on a _recent_ infidelity. Otherwise, Trump’s cheating is as far in the past as Bill’s, and doesn’t make a good line of attack for either campaign.

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2016, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/7493 "2016-09-29T19:15:42Z")

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[This documentary](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1Lfd1aB9YI) does a good job of comparing the seriousness of Trump’s and Clinton’s scandals.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2016, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/7494 "2016-09-29T19:25:07Z")

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Trump says junk like that about his opponents because in his mind people are attracted to the strong and are repulsed by the weak. Not being able to keep her man satisfied and then sticking with him even though he’s abusing the power differential of US President vs intern implies that 1) she is weak and 2) she would rather have power than stand up for any feminist ideal.

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**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2016, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/7495 "2016-09-29T19:29:12Z")

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[Trump spokeswoman Katrina Pierson: Media can ‘no longer report’ Trump won’t release his tax returns](https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/wp/2016/09/27/trump-spokeswoman-katrina-pierson-media-can-no-longer-report-trump-wont-release-his-tax-returns/?tid=hybrid_experimentrandomcheckpoint_1_na&utm_term=.37185581c626)

Wait for it…it’s Hillary that is the problem. Yep. He’ll release his tax returns as soon as she comes up with deleted emails.

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> In this post-debate spin room area, Trump national campaign spokeswoman Katrina Pierson told the Erik Wemple Blog and another reporter that media outlets can “no longer report that he won’t release his taxes. He said he will” when Clinton releases her emails.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2016, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/7496 "2016-09-29T19:40:46Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> Somewhere, Marco Rubio is frantically drinking water, wondering how this news is affecting his chances with a bunch of pissed-off Cuban-Americans.

[Little Marco is paddling furiously.](http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/marco-rubio-deeply-concerned-donald-trump-cuba-business/story?id=42447807)

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2016, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/7497 "2016-09-29T19:42:32Z")

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Kellyanne Conway was on “The View” this morning, and for every single question she was asked, she answered with “Why didn’t Hillary …” So when she was specifically asked about Trump’s dealings with Cuba, her reply was, “Why did Hillary take money from Saudi Arabia?”

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**Author:** ![theR](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/977dab/32.png) [@theR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/theR)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2016, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/7498 "2016-09-29T19:56:09Z")

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> [@Ambrosio\_Spinola](#):
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> I think I’ve mentioned it before, but this is literally the one and only thing that many of the conservative Republican women of my acquaintance grudgingly respect HRC for. Standing by your man and working out your marriage is not considered a negative by them. This is a constituency Trump desperately needs, so I think this line of attack is insane.

To further emphasize the possible insanity of this type of attack, Hillary Clinton’s approval rating actually went up during the Lewinsky scandal.

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> Another set of accusations, which would become the Monica Lewinsky scandal, would work to Mrs. Clinton’s benefit, with her favorability ratings reaching a new high of about 60 percent after the impeachment of Mr. Clinton by the House of Representatives.

[http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/12/11/why-hillary-clinton-would-be-strong-in-2016-its-not-her-favorability-ratings/](http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/12/11/why-hillary-clinton-would-be-strong-in-2016-its-not-her-favorability-ratings/)

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2016, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/7499 "2016-09-29T19:56:50Z")

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> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#):
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> … I’m nonplussed by the comments section, which leans heavily toward “Librul newspaper trying to say bad things about Trump! What about EMAILS?” And “I like looking at pretty girls too, _hurrrrrr_” and “It’s California! You need big boobs to be a player here! Why are these fat old bitches complaining”…

Every posting you read in a typical newspaper comments section will kill 30 of your brain cells. Don’t do it.

> [@elucidator](#):
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> As soon as I have no reason to worry about him, I will have no reason to think about him.

Quote of the Day! Thank you.

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**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2016, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/7500 "2016-09-29T20:01:07Z")

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> [@davidm](#):
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> If she couldn’t meet her husband’s needs, how can she meet the country’s? It’s dumb but I have heard people say exactly that.

Of course, the implication is that her opponent, by contrast, will be \*great \*at screwing the country.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2016, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/7501 "2016-09-29T20:01:58Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Kellyanne Conway was on “The View” this morning, and for every single question she was asked, she answered with “Why didn’t Hillary …” So when she was specifically asked about Trump’s dealings with Cuba, her reply was, “Why did Hillary take money from Saudi Arabia?”

That’s pretty much how all his surrogates have handled questions all along.

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2016, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/7502 "2016-09-29T20:07:42Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Anybody have anything like a clue as to why Trump was connecting to Cuba at all? The money seems kinda puny for a Big Shot, $68K is pocket lint for Trump. Even if he made some kind of deal with Castro, he couldn’t openly conduct any business, so what was he after?

> [@garygnu](#):
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> That’s part of his self-created myth. He’s not nearly as rich as he seems, especially at that time when his company was really tanking. Add unmitigated greed and is no surprise he’d go after that small of a paycheck.

You know, you guys are completely misunderstanding the story. He didn’t make $68k, he spent that to trying to make connections so he could be a government favourite in opening the first American casino in Cuba since the revolution as soon as the embargo lifted. That would probably be a good paycheck. And $68k probably greases quite a few wheels in Cuba.

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