# Donald Trump's 2016 General Election Campaign

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [May 4, 2016, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901 "2016-05-04T02:37:34Z")\
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**Author:** ![Maastricht](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e57/32.png) [@Maastricht](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maastricht)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/7523 "2016-09-30T00:48:44Z")

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Thursday, footage surfaced where Trump said: “Vagina is expensive”. [News | Heavy.com](http://heavy.com/news/2016/09/donald-trump-sexist-sexism-howard-stern-interview-women-vagina-expensive/)

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**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/7524 "2016-09-30T01:20:02Z")

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> [@Maastricht](#):
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> Thursday, footage surfaced where Trump said: “Vagina is expensive”. [News - Heavy.com](http://heavy.com/news/2016/09/donald-trump-sexist-sexism-howard-stern-interview-women-vagina-expensive/)

Don’t get my hopes up, footage of Howard Stern saying Donald Trump said vagina is expensive is nowhere near as bad.

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**Author:** ![Maastricht](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e57/32.png) [@Maastricht](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maastricht)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/7525 "2016-09-30T01:30:19Z")

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But trump confirmed on tape to howard he said that.

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**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/7526 "2016-09-30T01:38:17Z")

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> [@DigitalC](#):
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> Don’t get my hopes up, footage of Howard Stern saying Donald Trump said vagina is expensive is nowhere near as bad.

Is Stern known to be a liar? He’s crude, but, from everything I’ve heard, he’s broadly considered a reliable source.

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**Author:** ![Mighty\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Mighty\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Girl)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/7527 "2016-09-30T01:43:07Z")

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> [@Maastricht](#):
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> Thursday, footage surfaced where Trump said: “Vagina is expensive”. [News - Heavy.com](http://heavy.com/news/2016/09/donald-trump-sexist-sexism-howard-stern-interview-women-vagina-expensive/)

That’s what happens when an insufferable baboon can only attract women because he’s loaded.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/7528 "2016-09-30T02:12:57Z")

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I wonder if it would be considered sexist or racist or \_\_\_\_ist to ridicule Hillary based upon skin color, hair style, or other aspects of her looks. Or call a liberal politician some form of ape and see how that goes.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/7529 "2016-09-30T02:14:20Z")

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There are now three instances where Trump businesses spent money, or approached people to do so, in Cuba:

[http://www.politico.com/states/florida/story/2016/09/report-trump-violated-cuba-embargo-105927](http://www.politico.com/states/florida/story/2016/09/report-trump-violated-cuba-embargo-105927)

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> U.S.-Cuba Trade and Economic Council President John Kavulich, agreed with Rubio that the allegations are problematic. Speaking by phone from Havana, Kavulich told POLITICO Florida that an emissary from Trump’s organization in the mid- to late-1990s approached him in his New York office to discuss business opportunities in Cuba.  
> “We were approached by a Trump Organization senior executive who visited my office, and we have the correspondence in our file, where the organization was interested in exploring potential opportunities in Cuba,” Kavulich said.

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**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/7530 "2016-09-30T02:22:59Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> I wonder if it would be considered sexist or racist or \_\_\_\_ist to ridicule Hillary based upon skin color, hair style, or other aspects of her looks. Or call a liberal politician some form of ape and see how that goes.

Yes, you would be terribly disingenuous, to the surprise of nobody.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/7531 "2016-09-30T02:28:16Z")

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Holy Mother of God:

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> **Donald Trump’s charitable foundation** — which has been sustained for years by donors outside the Trump family — **has never obtained the certification that New York requires before charities can solicit money from the public, according to the state attorney general’s office.**
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> Under the laws in New York, where the Donald J. Trump Foundation is based, any charity that solicits more than $25,000 a year from the public must obtain a special kind of registration beforehand. Charities as large as Trump’s must also submit to a rigorous annual audit that asks — among other things — whether the charity spent any money for the personal benefit of its officers.
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> If New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman (D) finds that Trump’s foundation raised money in violation of the law, he could order the charity to stop raising money immediately. With a court’s permission, **Schneiderman could also force Trump to return money that his foundation has already raised**.

[https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-foundation-lacks-the-certification-required-for-charities-that-solicit-money/2016/09/29](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-foundation-lacks-the-certification-required-for-charities-that-solicit-money/2016/09/29)

I thought Real Estate moguls knew all about permits and stuff?

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/7532 "2016-09-30T02:29:35Z")

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Permits? A little envelope into the right hands takes care of that stuff.

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**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/7533 "2016-09-30T02:29:38Z")

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New bombshell that will convince no one already voting for Trump what an unfit candidate he is [Trump Foundation not certified as a fund soliciting charity.](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-foundation-lacks-the-certification-required-for-charities-that-solicit-money/2016/09/29/7dac6a68-8658-11e6-ac72-a29979381495_story.html)

Oh well, it’s just paperwork, right?

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/7534 "2016-09-30T02:37:26Z")

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> [@Maastricht](#):
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> Thursday, footage surfaced where Trump said: “Vagina is expensive”. [News - Heavy.com](http://heavy.com/news/2016/09/donald-trump-sexist-sexism-howard-stern-interview-women-vagina-expensive/)

At this rate, Trump will have his own official October-Surprise-A-Day calendar.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/7535 "2016-09-30T02:37:42Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> Permits? A little envelope into the right hands takes care of that stuff.

Nonsense. Trump doesn’t pay bribes. He _offers_ to bribe you, and then threatens to sue you for blackmailing him.

And he doesn’t have little envelopes either. He has huge envelopes. The biggest envelopes!

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/7536 "2016-09-30T02:48:42Z")

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> [@Maastricht](#):
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> But trump confirmed on tape to howard he said that.

That’s not good enough to get into the next edit of the “Daughters” commercial. Need Trump saying it.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/7537 "2016-09-30T03:07:13Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> I wonder if it would be considered sexist or racist or \_\_\_\_ist to ridicule Hillary based upon skin color, hair style, or other aspects of her looks. Or call a liberal politician some form of ape and see how that goes.

I’d say if you feel you’ve come up with a real zinger concerning Mrs. Clinton’s skin color, have at it and see how it goes. Certainly the pant suits, her voice, and some of her physical mannerisms have come in for their share of derision.

I don’t really go in for that, but just to be clear, you’re OK with a bit of ridicule of Mr. Trump, as long as it’s the right kind? Or is it all out of bounds? Just making sure of the ground rules.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/7538 "2016-09-30T03:11:16Z")

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> [@Derleth](#):
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> She will crush him, see him driven before her, and hear the lamentations of his supporters…

All hail Queen Conan!

> [@Steve\_MB](#):
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> Basically, he’s Hugh Hefner without the class and refinement.

But his silk pajamas (made in overseas sweatshops, of course, and then imported under the Trump PJs label) are yuuuge!

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/7539 "2016-09-30T03:46:42Z")

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> [@Maastricht](#):
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> But trump confirmed on tape to howard he said that.

Trump said Stern’s quote was “pretty close” to his exact words. I presume that Trump really said “pussy is expensive” but Stern had to bowdlerize it a bit for radio.

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**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/7540 "2016-09-30T04:46:00Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> I’d say if you feel you’ve come up with a real zinger concerning Mrs. Clinton’s skin color, have at it and see how it goes. Certainly the pant suits, her voice, and some of her physical mannerisms have come in for their share of derision.
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> I don’t really go in for that, but just to be clear, you’re OK with a bit of ridicule of Mr. Trump, as long as it’s the right kind? Or is it all out of bounds? Just making sure of the ground rules.

I believe the word karma would be appropriate here.  
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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/7541 "2016-09-30T04:56:56Z")

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_USA Today_ fires [both barrels](http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2016/09/29/dont-vote-for-donald-trump-editorial-board-editorials-debates/91295020/) at Trump:

> [@USA Today](#):
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> In the 34-year history of USA TODAY, the Editorial Board has never taken sides in the presidential race. Instead, we’ve expressed opinions about the major issues and haven’t presumed to tell our readers, who have a variety of priorities and values, which choice is best for them. Because every presidential race is different, we revisit our no-endorsement policy every four years. We’ve never seen reason to alter our approach. Until now.
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> This year, the choice isn’t between two capable major party nominees who happen to have significant ideological differences. This year, one of the candidates — Republican nominee Donald Trump — is, by unanimous consensus of the Editorial Board, unfit for the presidency.

It’s a good run-down of the major arguments against Trump. _USA Today_ has reservations about Clinton and doesn’t come right out and endorse her. The piece concludes:

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> Where does that leave us? Our bottom-line advice for voters is this: Stay true to your convictions. That might mean a vote for Clinton, the most plausible alternative to keep Trump out of the White House. Or it might mean a third-party candidate. Or a write-in. Or a focus on down-ballot candidates who will serve the nation honestly, try to heal its divisions, and work to solve its problems.
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> Whatever you do, however, resist the siren song of a dangerous demagogue. By all means vote, just not for Donald Trump.

So I guess you can’t call it an endorsement exactly. More of an anti-endorsement. A plea. A prayer. Will it matter at all? Fuck if I know.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 6:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/7542 "2016-09-30T06:49:15Z")

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> [@Dob](#):
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> I’m so over this “lesser of two evils” bullshit too. She is not the “lesser” of anything. She is a qualified canidate with decades of public service. Don’t like her policies? Okay, no problem. Think shes unqualified? You’re a numb-nut

[Vote Greater Evil 2016](https://cthulhuforamerica.com)

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