# Donald Trump's 2016 General Election Campaign **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [May 4, 2016, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901 "2016-05-04T02:37:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 38
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2016, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/741 "2016-06-01T18:41:03Z")
Well, I mean, _Canada_. Too dull and bland a place for the Trump brand to flourish. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2016, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/742 "2016-06-01T19:25:20Z")
> [@](#): > > He was only suspended for one week. Much like an excessive-celebration penalty in football, calling for an assassination is only a minor offense. That’s because it was advocating the assassination of Trump. If they had been advocating the assassination of Obama, they would have received cash bonuses. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2016, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/743 "2016-06-01T19:30:10Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Remember the money Trump raised for veterans? [He’s been sitting on it.](http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/trumps-veterans-controversy-goes-bad-worse) > > Four months and he hadn’t sent the money? Was he hoping it was forgotten? > He claimed months ago he had already written a personal check for a million and had donated it yet he produced the newly written check at the press conference. It’s an absolutely inarguable example of every nasty character trait any human has ever possessed; he almost got away with cheating veterans of all that money while still using veterans as props to “prove” his patriotism. And, stunningly, his fans manage to doublethink away the implications of this. (They should all donate their brains to science. Much could be learned.) ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2016, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/744 "2016-06-01T22:26:23Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > According to [this article,](http://time.com/money/4349354/donald-trump-hurt-hotel-bookings/) hotel bookings at Trump branded hotels are down. WAAAY down. And the PGA is [moving the Cadillac Championship](http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/miami-dade/doral/article81078267.html) from Trump Doral to Mexico City. They \*claim \*the reasons involve greater sponsorship money :dubious:, but c’mon. Trump’s response was to tweet “I hope they have kidnapping insurance”. ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2016, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/745 "2016-06-01T22:40:32Z")
Mark Cuban questions whether Trump is a billionaire. He says that Trump listed only $165 million in cash, securities, and bonds on his FEC filings. Cuban argues that throwing your name on all kinds of random crap is the mark of someone desperate for cash, and he thinks a venture like Trump Steaks couldn’t have brought Trump even a few million bucks. Cuban’s a blowhard himself, but I don’t think he’s alone in questioning whether Trump’s supposed wealth is just another lie. [http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/alleged-billionaire](http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/alleged-billionaire) ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2016, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/746 "2016-06-01T22:42:45Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > …while still using veterans as prop… He planned a rally in support of puppies, but they explained to him he couldn’t actually exclude chihuahuas. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2016, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/747 "2016-06-01T22:44:28Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > He planned a rally in support of puppies, but they explained to him he couldn’t actually exclude chihuahuas. He won’t have to build a very big wall to keep 'em out. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2016, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/748 "2016-06-01T22:47:34Z")
> [@Bayard](#): > > Mark Cuban questions whether Trump is a billionaire… > Cuban’s a blowhard himself, but I don’t think he’s alone in questioning whether Trump’s supposed wealth is just another lie. This would be one of the VERY few revelations that could actually make a difference in Trump’s popularity; his fans won’t abandon him no matter how racist, sexist, nasty to the disabled, or generally crude he gets. But they _would_ abandon him if he were proven to be lying about being a billionaire. He can do anything he likes as long as he’s A Winner. But if he’s _not_ A Winner–if he’s just a guy with a lot of debt and a few on-paper assets–then he’s, well, A Loser. And that is _unforgivable_ to the kind of person who’s been supporting Trump. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2016, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/749 "2016-06-01T22:48:01Z")
> [@](#): > > He won’t have to build a very big wall to keep 'em out. Makes me wonder. Go to a Trump rally, how many women do you see walking around carrying shivering chihuahuas? More than, say, a Bernie rally? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2016, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/750 "2016-06-01T22:55:21Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > …But they _would_ abandon him if he were proven to be lying about being a billionaire… Why? All of his other lies have been proven lies, they bounced off like popcorn balls off a tank. He’ll just lie again. Besides, hear he owes the Deutsche Bank $500 million, for that kind of money, he could blackmail them into invading Belgium. Still got the maps, probably… ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2016, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/751 "2016-06-01T23:14:53Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Why? All of his other lies have been proven lies, they bounced off like popcorn balls off a tank. He’ll just lie again. Besides, hear he owes the Deutsche Bank $500 million, for that kind of money, he could blackmail them into invading Belgium. Still got the maps, probably… I see what you did there… 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2016, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/752 "2016-06-01T23:17:14Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Why? All of his other lies have been proven lies, they bounced off like popcorn balls off a tank. He’ll just lie again. Besides, hear he owes the Deutsche Bank $500 million, for that kind of money, he could blackmail them into invading Belgium. Still got the maps, probably… You are, of course, 100% correct about the bit in red. I still say that this is a lie that would make a difference. Of course the actual facts would have to be established so clearly that the Trumpers could NOT say ‘oh, it’s just the media/GOP-Establishment/Left-Wingers trying to bring a great man down’–there would have to be a mass of people the Trumpers _do_ usually listen to, saying ‘it’s true, Trump is a _long_ way from being a billionaire.’ It would take a few weeks of that, probably, for the ‘he’s a Loser’ meme to penetrate to his most ardent fans. But it would affect them the way other revelations (about his having cheated Trump U students, having been endorsed by Kim Jung Un, having called for nukes to be widely distributed, having pretended to be John Miller/John Barron, etc.) have not. \*Because all those other things are being interpreted by Trump’s fans as ‘Trump is Smarter Than Everyone Else’. \* But his NOT being a billionaire? That would be _impossible_ to spin as ‘he’s smarter than everyone else.’ Absolutely impossible. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2016, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/753 "2016-06-01T23:57:08Z")
Trump University success stories. [What a surprise.](http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2016/06/01/trumps-success-story-students-new-video-have-other-ties-him/85256158/) > [@](#): > > Donald Trump’s campaign issued a video Wednesday featuring three people identified as former Trump University students that represent satisfied customers of that program, which has been a source of intense criticism and legal challenges. > > The video features Kent Moyer, Casey Hoban and Michelle Gunn — all of whom appear to have some ties to Trump himself. > [@](#): > > Hoban, of Connecticut, is the founder of Trimino Protein Water. He has partnered with Trump on the sales and promoted the drink at Trump golf courses, and it is sold at Trump Tower Cafe, according to his social media accounts. > [@](#): > > Moyer, of California, Is listed as the CEO of The World Protection Group, an international security firm. He has posted on social media about Trump’s attempt to have Obama release his birth certificate in 2011. Moyer is also a fellow Wharton Business School graduate. > [@](#): > > Gunn, of Tennessee, is a real estate investor. She manages her college-aged son, Houston, who wrote a book at 13, _Schooled for Success: How I Plan to Graduate from High School a Millionaire._ It was endorsed by Donald Trump. > > When reached by phone Wednesday, Gunn said she was unavailable to comment on the video. ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2016, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/754 "2016-06-02T00:17:18Z")
Sherrerd: “Impossible, Monsieur? Zat word is not **Trump**!” ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2016, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/755 "2016-06-02T00:36:29Z")
I’ve been focusing on his finances for a few days and I think that this campaign is eating into his “fuck you” money in a serious way. Yes, he has large cash accounts at a couple of banks, but that doesn’t necessarily mean the money is his to do with as he pleases. Yes, he has real estate holdings, but you can’t expect to sell a golf course or resort to settle some short-term cash needs. Having to shell out these checks may explain, in part, why his campaign last week said they would have no money to fight Hillary until after the convention amd he gets access to RMC funds. However… I wonder what the FEC regs are on charity contributions by campaigns. Did he do a good enough job of segregating his funds so that charity donations did not get comingled with campaign contributions? Enquiring minds want to know! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2016, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/756 "2016-06-02T00:39:15Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > I doubt if Trump leaves that much cash in any simple interest bearing instrument. The Dow is up 11% just since Feb 8. Yes, the Obama Presidency has done wonders for the stock market, hasn’t it? (Just wanted to point that out…) ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2016, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/757 "2016-06-02T00:40:55Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Yes, he has real estate holdings, but you can’t expect to sell a golf course or resort to settle some short-term cash needs. It’s no big deal to mortgage them - unless they’re already mortgaged up to his eyeballs. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2016, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/758 "2016-06-02T00:45:29Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > It’s no big deal to mortgage them - unless they’re already mortgaged up to his eyeballs. Maybe that’s what’s blocking the spray-tan. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2016, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/759 "2016-06-02T01:40:34Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > It’s no big deal to mortgage them - unless they’re already mortgaged up to his eyeballs. No, but it still takes time and there is a countdown as to when these funds can be effectively used. If he wanted to inject another $20 million in the campaign, the best time to do so is _now_… the fact that he isn’t injecting more money into the campaign, the fact that his mouth has written 7-figure checks that his ass really didn’t want to cash, the fact that he’s spending 6-figures every month fighting this lawsuit, the fact that time on the campaign trail takes away from prime-earning Trump Branding and Promotional time… all that indicates to me that Trump is out of cash\*, both on a campaign level and on a personal level. And it points out to why the system is the way it is: running for office is expensive and it’s best done on other people’s money. There’s a reason why campaigns probably shouldn’t be self-financed and we’re seeing that play out with Trump: 1. Candidate runs out of money 2. Candidate becomes disillusioned, starts de-funding campaign 3. Candidate goes into debt to win 4. Candidate wins or loses, doesn’t go into debt, doesn’t damage their finances There’s only one good option above, and it’s #3 that could be the worst situation to ever happen. Yeah, Hillary Clinton has a lot of big _donors_ (as all the candidates do), but what if the US President ends up with a big _debtor_? What happens if JP Morgan holds a 5-year, $20 million note on the President… how is the President to pay that back @ $200k/year? Hell, what happens if one of Trumps debtors call his note during his Presidency? What if they call him and say “if you don’t sign the bill, we’re calling the $74 million you owe us on Property X”? And don’t say they won’t, after all, we hear all the time that the Clinton’s are bought for a mere $175k speaking fee… how captured will President Trump be to his 8 and 9-figure debtors? \*He could still have $5 million and be considered “low on cash”. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2016, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/760 "2016-06-02T02:04:19Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > What happens if JP Morgan holds a 5-year, $20 million note on the President… how is the President to pay that back @ $200k/year?.. how captured will President Trump be to his 8 and 9-figure debtors? I’m sure you can think of … \*other \*arrangements a President could make, shall we say? But yes, that’s the problem. Or it \*would \*be a problem if it weren’t already Trump’s natural inclination, as one of Them. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901.md?page=37) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901.md?page=39)