# Donald Trump's 2016 General Election Campaign

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [May 4, 2016, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901 "2016-05-04T02:37:34Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2016, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/61 "2016-05-05T00:02:40Z")

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> [@ITR\_champion](#):
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> But for the purposes of the general election, the important question is whether voters believe he can brings jobs back from China and other countries. There’s economic malaise, a lack of high-paying jobs for some demographics, and frustration with politicians who have failed to care for decades. Trump assures them he’ll make globalization stop happening and that will create jobs in the USA. Bernie Sanders argues along similar lines in slightly more polite language. Plainly the position appeals to some people.

Trump can’t stop globalization any more than he’ll be able to do any of the other things he claims.

Bread and circuses, baby.

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2016, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/62 "2016-05-05T00:14:04Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> One need look no further than Soviet Canuckistan for a workable UHC model.

We don’t have to copy any one individual model. This is what pisses me off more than anything else about this. Every other western industrialized nation has had one form or another of UHC for decades. We could readily look around, see what works, what sort of works, and what doesn’t work at all, and cherry-pick the best aspects for our own system. It’s an _advantage_ of our delay.

But, no, we’re fucking exceptional.

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**Author:** ![The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_stainless_steel_rat/32/5727_2.png) [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Stainless_Steel_Rat)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2016, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/63 "2016-05-05T00:47:04Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Maybe The Donald should get the Governor of Oklahoma as running mate. She’s as bat shit crazy as he is.

> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> Better still, Kansas. Brownback is the new Santorum.

No, he should go for full psycho and draft Gov. Paul LePage from Maine.

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**Author:** ![iamthewalrus\_3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/258eb7/32.png) [@iamthewalrus\_3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iamthewalrus_3)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2016, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/64 "2016-05-05T00:54:09Z")

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It boggles the mind that “Terrorism” is in the Trump advantages column against Clinton, who has a decade of experience as Secretary of State and part of the Senate Committee on Armed Services where terrorism was _the primary_ foreign policy and military concern.

I’m not saying that you’re wrong with how it will play with the masses, **ITR** , but what an absurd world.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2016, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/65 "2016-05-05T00:56:04Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Maybe The Donald should get the Governor of Oklahoma as running mate. She’s as bat shit crazy as he is.

And she’s divorced ([possible affair](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Fallin#Divorce)) and remarried.

They could set a record for most ex-spouses in an administration.

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**Author:** ![DerekMichaels00](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f14d63/32.png) [@DerekMichaels00](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DerekMichaels00)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2016, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/66 "2016-05-05T01:09:31Z")

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I’m betting Bachman goes on his ticket. She’s from a state the GOP has been trying to pick up since the 2000s (even tho it hasn’t gone GOP since '72), she’s a conservative TP hero, a woman, etc.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2016, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/67 "2016-05-05T01:12:20Z")

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> [@DerekMichaels00](#):
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> I’m betting Bachman goes on his ticket. She’s from a state the GOP has been trying to pick up since the 2000s (even tho it hasn’t gone GOP since '72), she’s a conservative TP hero, a woman, etc.

She believes gay men should be allowed to get married.

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**Author:** ![DerekMichaels00](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f14d63/32.png) [@DerekMichaels00](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DerekMichaels00)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2016, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/68 "2016-05-05T01:21:24Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> She believes gay men should be allowed to get married.

yea but its part of Trump’s plan to win moderate rust belt states, hence why he’s not hard line on social issues.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2016, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/69 "2016-05-05T01:22:27Z")

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> [@DerekMichaels00](#):
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> yea but its part of Trump’s plan to win moderate rust belt states, hence why he’s not hard line on social issues.

Whoosh.

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2016, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/70 "2016-05-05T02:24:43Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> Whoosh.

I laughed!

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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2016, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/71 "2016-05-05T02:41:56Z")

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Merged the shorter thread:  
**Trump’s Republican Presidential Campaign**  
into this one.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2016, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/72 "2016-05-05T02:54:05Z")

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ABC News tonight suggested Rick Scott or Joni Ernst as Trump running mates.

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**Author:** ![bengangmo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@bengangmo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bengangmo)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2016, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/73 "2016-05-05T03:00:55Z")

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Nah…  
Paul Ryan will be the VP.  
Then one of two things will happen

1. Trump will have a (minor) “heart attack” in the third month of his presidency and step down
2. The Trump University lawsuit will find against him in the 2nd month of his presidency whereupon there will be a successful move to impeach and he will be booted by May.

You heard it here first.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2016, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/74 "2016-05-05T03:12:58Z")

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Trump can beat Hillary.

I know I’ve been bashing Bernie Sanders lately, but in some ways, he actually would have some advantages over Trump. I think Trump would beat Sanders over the head with ‘socialist’ rhetoric, which nobody’s done yet, but Hillary is what she is. A lot of people who are leaning toward Hillary now are doing so because they have very negative views of Donald Trump and republicans. If he can rehab his image somewhat - and there’s time for that - then this could be a real race.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2016, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/75 "2016-05-05T03:31:16Z")

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> [@bengangmo](#):
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> Nah…  
> Paul Ryan will be the VP.  
> Then one of two things will happen
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> 1. Trump will have a (minor) “heart attack” in the third month of his presidency and step down
> 2. The Trump University lawsuit will find against him in the 2nd month of his presidency whereupon there will be a successful move to impeach and he will be booted by May.
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> You heard it here first.

Paul Ryan won’t be the running mate. And neither of those two things will happen, namely because Trump will not win no matter who’s on the ticket with him.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2016, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/76 "2016-05-05T03:39:54Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> Trump can beat Hillary.
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> I know I’ve been bashing Bernie Sanders lately, but in some ways, he actually would have some advantages over Trump. I think Trump would beat Sanders over the head with ‘socialist’ rhetoric, which nobody’s done yet, but Hillary is what she is. A lot of people who are leaning toward Hillary now are doing so because they have very negative views of Donald Trump and republicans. If he can rehab his image somewhat - and there’s time for that - then this could be a real race.

And what do you think the Clinton campaign will be doing all that time? Forcibly and repeatedly reminding people of what an ignoramus he is.

Not gonna happen.

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**Author:** ![bienville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@bienville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bienville)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2016, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/77 "2016-05-05T03:47:05Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> Trump can beat Hillary.

What Swing States does he win?

I could see him getting North Carolina (which I still have a hard time thinking of as a Swing State anyway). Earier in the Thread (before the duplicate Threads were merged), **DJ Motorbike** said he thought Trump could take Wisconsin and **Septimus** said he thought Trump could take Ohio- but Trump didn’t even win those States in the primary when it was just Republicans voting (although, in the case of Wisconsin, Cruz won and I can’t imagine Cruz supporters tolerating the idea of a President Hillary Clinton).

I’m not really clear on the influence of the growing Latino population in Nevada and whether or not they vote. I could see Trump easily winning White Nevada but I don’t know what kind of Latino presence will be felt at the polls. (EDIT: I thought Sanders won Nevada, but Clinton won. Nevermind.)

Some have dismissed his chances in Florida because of the Hispanic vote but Cubans often see themselves in a different category from North/Central American Latinos. Certainly the general anti-immigrant stance among Republicans at large hasn’t hurt the Republican party with Cuban Americans. Bad mouth Mexicans in from of a Cuban and you could possibly hear him chime in with support. So, I wonder if he might have a chance in Florida. How significant is the non-Cuban Hispanic population in Florida? And are they known to vote?

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2016, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/78 "2016-05-05T04:32:44Z")

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> [@Johnny\_Ace](#):
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> And what do you think the Clinton campaign will be doing all that time? Forcibly and repeatedly reminding people of what an ignoramus he is.
> 
> Not gonna happen.

I’m not saying he will; I’m saying he can. Trump’s the guerilla warrior, hiding behind the bushes. Hillary doesn’t know where he’s coming from or what kinda fire he’s gonna bring. He comes from all angles. Hillary should win, but this race will be closer than people think. And that’s assuming that Bernie doesn’t weaken her chances at the convention.

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**Author:** ![bienville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@bienville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bienville)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2016, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/79 "2016-05-05T04:45:11Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> I’m not saying he will; I’m saying he can.

O.K., what Swing States _can_ he win?

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**Author:** ![coremelt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@coremelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/coremelt)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2016, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/80 "2016-05-05T05:23:01Z")

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> [@bienville](#):
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> O.K., what Swing States _can_ he win?

I think attempting to analyse this election by Red State / Blue State is pretty doomed to failure. Trump is going to swing hard to the center while still saying enough outrageous things to keep his fanatical base happy. He’s even appealing directly to disillusioned Bernie voters who at least see him as sharing Bernies distaste for the current political system. Trump’s supporters are not the normal republican base so I wouldn’t really count most safe Democratic states as really safe this election.

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