# Donald Trump's 2016 General Election Campaign **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [May 4, 2016, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901 "2016-05-04T02:37:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 41
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2016, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/801 "2016-06-02T15:51:34Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#): > > “Okie-doke” isn’t urban slang. If anything, it come from the redneck end of the spectrum. > > I’m honestly surprised that some of the people here seem to have never heard of this phrase. I guess no one remembers the Hanna-Barbara cartoon _Augie Doggie_, or heard Patricia Arquette use the expression in _True Romance_. I always thought the cartoon was a reference to [Augie Donatelli.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Augie_Donatelli) ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2016, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/802 "2016-06-02T16:47:54Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > I’m just flummoxed, baffled, totally bewildered. The right-wing (specifically, the ilk who post comments in online articles) latched on to “Obama uses a teleprompter!” in 2008, and refuse to let go. Despite overwhelming evidence that _every_ president for the past 50 years has used a teleprompter…but then, facts don’t matter. Absolutely correct. Facts have become increasingly meaningless to Republican supporters. The facts are an embarrassment to them, because they simply don’t support their policies or points of view. So what do they do? Reject the facts, demonize intellectual pursuits, and embrace ignorance. Trump is merely the nadir of this effect. He does not just reject the facts, he makes up his own, which are in direct opposition to reality. And his fans love it. The modern Republican Party is heading into the dumpster of irrelevance, and any political person who supports Mr. Donald Trump is diving into the refuse willingly. ---
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2016, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/803 "2016-06-02T17:33:02Z")
Are Trump supporters really down to just mocking how a leader speaks? Because we can do it with [Donald](http://americablog.com/2016/05/whats-trumps-weird-repetitive-stutter.html), too. > [@](#): > > A friend pointed out recently that Donald Trump has an odd — they called it annoying — affectation when he speaks. > > It’s a stutter of sorts, in which he repeats what he just said. It doesn’t come across as repetition for emphasis. It comes across as a speech impediment, or perhaps more to the point, a thought impediment. Once you notice it, you can’t help but be bothered by it. [QUOTE=Trump] I beat China all the time. All the time… And it only makes common sense. It only makes common sense… But you don’t hear that from anybody else. You don’t hear it from anybody else. [/QUOTE] Of course, it means fuck-all regarding his qualifications as President. But there you go. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2016, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/804 "2016-06-02T17:58:05Z")
> [@Moriarty](#): > > Are Trump supporters really down to just mocking how a leader speaks? > > Because we can do it with [Donald](http://americablog.com/2016/05/whats-trumps-weird-repetitive-stutter.html), too. > > Once you notice it, you can’t help but be bothered by it. > Of course, it means fuck-all regarding his qualifications as President. But there you go. Hey! Jimmy Two-Times is gonna be president, everybody! Now we can get Pete the Killer (Sally Balls’ brother) to be Secretary of Defense, Anthony Stabile can be Attorney General, and Frankie the Wop can be Vice President. Or maybe it should be Mo Black’s brother, Fat Andy. I always liked dat guy. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2016, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/805 "2016-06-02T18:13:10Z")
Just to be clear. The Obama teleprompter this is ruled out of bounds and a distraction for this thread. It’s not germane. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2016, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/806 "2016-06-02T18:15:32Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > Hey! Jimmy Two-Times is gonna be president, everybody! Now we can get Pete the Killer (Sally Balls’ brother) to be Secretary of Defense, Anthony Stabile can be Attorney General, and Frankie the Wop can be Vice President. Or maybe it should be Mo Black’s brother, Fat Andy. I always liked dat guy. We need to find a slot for Johnny Big Red-Assed Baboon Sittin’ on His Head Pizarelli. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2016, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/807 "2016-06-02T18:58:09Z")
> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#): > > It’s not germane. The goddamned Germans got nothing to do with it! [(reference, in case this gets me a warning or something)](https://youtu.be/cyWVPHoFGJA?t=17) ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2016, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/808 "2016-06-02T19:05:42Z")
[Donald Trump is running Black and Latino leaders out of the RNC.](http://www.salon.com/2016/06/02/mass_exodus_of_minorities_donald_trump_is_running_black_and_latino_leaders_out_of_the_rnc/) This does not bode well for the GOP’s future prospects of reaching out to black and Latino voters as the 2012 autopsy report said it urgently needs to do. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2016, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/809 "2016-06-02T20:33:11Z")
Donald Trump says all the countries in Europe that accepted Syrian refugees are going to [totally collapse](http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/trump-germanys-going-down-theyre-all-going-down#sthash.mbozM5ME.dpuf): > [@](#): > > Trump, who has frequently criticized German Chancellor Angela Merkel for her stance on refugees and because she, in his view, robbed him of the 2015 TIME Person of the Year title, told Savage that refugees will destroy the continent: “I’ll tell you, you’re going to destroy Europe. Germany’s going down. They’re all going down. It’s unbelievable; unbelievable what’s happening in Europe.” ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2016, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/810 "2016-06-02T21:24:09Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > Donald Trump says all the countries in Europe that accepted Syrian refugees are going to [totally collapse](http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/trump-germanys-going-down-theyre-all-going-down#sthash.mbozM5ME.dpuf): > > > [@](#): > > > > . . . and because she, in his view, robbed him of the 2015 TIME Person of the Year title . . . :rolleyes: Can even Donald Trump be such a petty asshole as that?! ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2016, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/811 "2016-06-02T21:33:27Z")
Michael the Savage Weiner? _Him?_ Rabies with a microphone. Hmm. If Germany goes belly-up in an Islamic horrorshow and Deutsche Bank goes with it, and Trump owes them a shit ton of money…does he get to keep it? ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2016, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/812 "2016-06-02T22:35:43Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > [Donald Trump is running Black and Latino leaders out of the RNC.](http://www.salon.com/2016/06/02/mass_exodus_of_minorities_donald_trump_is_running_black_and_latino_leaders_out_of_the_rnc/) > > This does not bode well for the GOP’s future prospects of reaching out to black and Latino voters as the 2012 autopsy report said it urgently needs to do. Now, now, now; il Doofus is simply insuring that the “autopsy report” label complies with truth-in-advertising standards. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2016, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/813 "2016-06-02T22:40:36Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > :rolleyes: Can even Donald Trump be such a petty asshole as that?! That’s like asking “can an embezzler be as dishonest as that?” or “can a pyramid-scheme salesman be such a sleaze as that?” or “can a televangelist be as willing to take poor old people’s last dollar as that?” Yes. They can. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2016, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/814 "2016-06-02T22:57:14Z")
Trump delegate says Americans need tanks, assault weapons and bombs because they will have to overthrow the government and [kill the President, Congress and the Supreme Court](http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/06/trump-delegates-patriot-movement-militias): > [@](#): > > There’s only one reason why the Founding Fathers put the Second Amendment…If the federal government were to follow the path of all other governments, at some point it will turn to tyranny against the people. And at that point, when it stops to uphold and abide by the Constitution—and we’re talking about the Supreme Court, Congress, and the executive branch, all three are way off away from the Constitution right now—the people have the right to assemble, bear arms, go to Washington, DC, or wherever necessary, and go into military battle against the government and replace those in government with individuals that will uphold the Constitution. The Constitution should remain, but the people that are abusing it should be, the polite word is, eliminated. The harsh word is killed. And they’re killed by American citizens with weapons. And if people have tanks, assault weapons, if they have bombs—they need to have the weaponry necessary to be able to overthrow the federal government. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2016, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/815 "2016-06-02T23:16:44Z")
There are actual Dopers who think so too. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2016, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/816 "2016-06-02T23:17:40Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > [Donald Trump is running Black and Latino leaders out of the RNC.](http://www.salon.com/2016/06/02/mass_exodus_of_minorities_donald_trump_is_running_black_and_latino_leaders_out_of_the_rnc/) > > This does not bode well for the GOP’s future prospects of reaching out to black and Latino voters as the 2012 autopsy report said it urgently needs to do. I heard what an NPR reporter said about the endorsement just made by Paul Ryan, it means that there is now **no daylight** between the Republican party and Trump. Since Ryan said that he found out that Trump is supporting the values of the Republican party and has decided to embrace him, it follows then that the party has decided to embrace bigotry. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2016, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/817 "2016-06-02T23:50:44Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > Trump delegate says Americans need tanks, assault weapons and bombs because they will have to overthrow the government and [kill the President, Congress and the Supreme Court](http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/06/trump-delegates-patriot-movement-militias): > > > [@](#): > > > > There’s only one reason why the Founding Fathers put the Second Amendment…If the federal government were to follow the path of all other governments, at some point it will turn to tyranny against the people. And at that point, when it stops to uphold and abide by the Constitution—and we’re talking about the Supreme Court, Congress, and the executive branch, all three are way off away from the Constitution right now—the people have the right to assemble, bear arms, go to Washington, DC, or wherever necessary, and go into military battle against the government and replace those in government with individuals that will uphold the Constitution. The Constitution should remain, but the people that are abusing it should be, the polite word is, eliminated. The harsh word is killed. And they’re killed by American citizens with weapons. And if people have tanks, assault weapons, if they have bombs—they need to have the weaponry necessary to be able to overthrow the federal government. Well, the first part is partly correct. That was one of the rationales of the Founding Fathers, but it was also for the literal purpose of ensuring that the people were able to defend themselves in case of foreign invasion. The rest is pure fiction. (Unless the Donald is elected, of course.) ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2016, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/818 "2016-06-03T00:05:13Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > I heard what an NPR reporter said about the endorsement just made by Paul Ryan, it means that there is now **no daylight** between the Republican party and Trump. Since Ryan said that he found out that Trump is supporting the values of the Republican party and has decided to embrace him, it follows then that the party has decided to embrace bigotry. Which means they’ll turn out white bigots to vote Pub in the greatest numbers ever, but drive away the whole minority vote and most of the women. Quite a Hail Mary play. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2016, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/819 "2016-06-03T00:16:50Z")
> [@Johnny\_Ace](#): > > Well, the first part is partly correct. That was one of the rationales of the Founding Fathers, but it was also for the literal purpose of ensuring that the people were able to defend themselves in case of foreign invasion. Without relying entirely on a standing professional army. That was the whole point of the 2nd Amendment – to defend liberty, not by making it possible for the people to revolt against their own government, but by preserving a militia-based defense system and forestalling the need for a large standing army, which the FFs feared as a threat to liberty. They had experiences with the Redcoats, and at this period royal armies were regularly used as instruments of internal rule in Europe wherever necessary. If the people could “keep and bear arms,” they could simply bring them along whenever the militia was called up. But, it was an unfounded fear. In all major wars America has won (or lost) since the Revolution, we relied mainly on the regular Army swelled with wartime recruits, militias/National Guards providing only reinforcements. When the war ended, the Army was again downsized (at least, that’s how it happened at the end of every war before WWII; the Cold War changed things). And, except during Reconstruction, the Army has never been used as an instrument of domestic rule and no Administration has ever seriously considered it. “A well-regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free people . . .” But, it isn’t. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2016, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/820 "2016-06-03T00:23:02Z")
But that would mean the Founders were _gasp_ WRONG! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901.md?page=40) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901.md?page=42)