# Donald Trump's 2016 General Election Campaign

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [May 4, 2016, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901 "2016-05-04T02:37:34Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2016, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/821 "2016-06-03T00:42:33Z")

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Trouble with rising up against the gummint, if you got kinfolk who are in, say, the National Guard, it could make for a very awkward Thanksgiving.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2016, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/822 "2016-06-03T03:01:28Z")

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So Trump has given up on the racially-tinged speech, and [moved right on to full-blown racist.](http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/06/trump-mexican-judge/485429/)

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> In an interview, Mr. Trump said U.S. District Judge Gonzalo Curiel had “an absolute conflict” in presiding over the litigation given that he was “of Mexican heritage” and a member of a Latino lawyers’ association. Mr. Trump said the background of the judge, who was born in Indiana to Mexican immigrants, was relevant because of his campaign stance against illegal immigration and his pledge to seal the southern U.S. border. “I’m building a wall. It’s an inherent conflict of interest,” Mr. Trump said.

Outright tarnishing a perfectly qualified, unblemished judge simply because of his race. In a case that has nothing to do with race. I’m just gobsmacked that anyone with any morals whatsoever, or lick of common sense, can support this man as our next president.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2016, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/823 "2016-06-03T04:06:57Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> :rolleyes: Can even Donald Trump be such a petty asshole as that?!

“I’ll take ‘Obviously Rhetorical Questions’ for $200, please, Alex.”

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**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2016, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/824 "2016-06-03T04:13:50Z")

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[Here’s](http://www.nydailynews.com/archives/news/trumps-bitter-battle-nephew-ailing-baby-caught-middle-article-1.888562) a random article I found, which is from back in 2000, and airs some of the Trump family’s dirty laundry. Basically, Donald’s older brother, Fred Jr., was a disappointment to the old man (Fred Sr.); Junior wasn’t the businessman his father was, became a pilot, married someone Senior didn’t like, and he died an alcoholic at 42.

Later, when Junior’s daughter, Lisa, had a baby with cerebral palsy, Uncle Donald provided the absolute best, round-the-clock medical care, free of charge. But then she made the mistake of contesting Grandpa (Senior)'s will (he died at the ripe age of 93). Senior gave relatively little to Junior’s kids, and they felt entitled to their dead father’s “share” as 1 of 5 children.

In response to Lisa’s challenge of the will, Donald cut off the gratis medical care to her 18 month old son, William.

From the link

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> Donald, who before had an amiable relationship with his dead brother’s children, said in his deposition, “They live like kings and queens. This is not two people left out in the gutter.”
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> “My aunt and uncles should be ashamed of themselves,” Mary Trump said. “I’m sure they are not.”

Now, that’s 16 years ago, and maybe fences have mended. But, given just how litigious Trump is, there must be _ **legions** _ of people who have disparaging stories to tell him.

I predict a sensational onslaught of negative press awaits.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2016, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/825 "2016-06-03T04:17:42Z")

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> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> So Trump has given up on the racially-tinged speech, and [moved right on to full-blown racist.](http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/06/trump-mexican-judge/485429/)
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> Outright tarnishing a perfectly qualified, unblemished judge simply because of his race. In a case that has nothing to do with race. I’m just gobsmacked that anyone with any morals whatsoever, or lick of common sense, can support this man as our next president.

For all the ones that are concerned that Trump is not losing his support\* you should consider that Clinton only has to demolish that support among just a few of the Republicans and independents that are not willing to polish the turd. It is easier thanks to items like the one you are talking about here, because clearly the fig leaf that was used before when racist ideas did slip from republican candidates mouths is not being used by the current “fearless leader”.

Check this short Rachel Maddow video in this article, showing the mendacity and real hatred of Trump when continuing to attack the Judge in his Trump U case:

> **[Trump Claims Judge In Trump University Suit Had 'An Absolute Conflict'...](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/donald-trump-trump-university-judge_n_5750e099e4b0ed593f13fa13)**
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> "I'm building a wall. It's an inherent conflict of interest."

As things stand right now Clinton is still ahead in the polls, if too close for comfort consider that they are looking just as when Obama was over Romney back in 2012. The point for me here is that Clinton just has to remind her base about how radically incompetent Trump is to manage. Of course I expect her campaign to not “just” do that but also work more to let reasonable Republicans know about the dog they are sleeping with; on this election cycle there is IMO a good number of Republicans that I think will listen to the better angels of their nature.

- We have to realize that it is the Republicans who **are** now embracing bigotry, and now it is the time to demand to the ones that still have a conscience to stand up and not just lie down and become [del]yellow[/del] orange dog Republicans.

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**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2016, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/826 "2016-06-03T04:21:04Z")

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In the above post, I appear to have mixed up some of the facts of the baby’s lineage. Suffice it to say, Trump can be a very vindictive person, and I’m sure he can be “swift-boated” with lots and lots of people who will talk about his dickish behavior.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2016, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/827 "2016-06-03T04:25:47Z")

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[QUOTE=Happy Lendervedder]  
I’m just gobsmacked that anyone with any morals whatsoever, or lick of common sense, can support this man as our next president.  
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Ladies and gentlemen, the Republican party.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2016, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/828 "2016-06-03T05:08:30Z")

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> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> I’m just gobsmacked that anyone with any morals whatsoever, or lick of common sense, can support this man as our next president.

> [@Johnny\_Ace](#):
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> Ladies and gentlemen, the Republican party.

Nah, it’s just America in 2016; better start getting used to saying “President Trump”.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2016, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/829 "2016-06-03T05:23:18Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> Nah, it’s just America in 2016; better start getting used to saying “President Trump”.

Since that outcome will be possible only at the cost of dividing America even more, I have to say no.

“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.” - Edmund Burke

So, what are you doing?

I’m volunteering for the first time in my life to support the Democrats, and in the land of Arpaio, it will not be without risk.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2016, 6:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/830 "2016-06-03T06:45:13Z")

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> [@GIGObuster](#):
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> Since that outcome will be possible only at the cost of dividing America even more, I have to say no.
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> “The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.” - Edmund Burke
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> **So, what are you doing?**
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> I’m volunteering for the first time in my life to support the Democrats, and in the land of Arpaio, it will not be without risk.

(bolding mine)

Well, for the past few months I’ve been trying to call attention to the fact that Donald Trump is going to be elected president in November and challenging people to prove me wrong.

At first no one took me seriously, but now…

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2016, 7:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/831 "2016-06-03T07:05:35Z")

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Earlier I said that I didn’t think Donald even wanted to be President (though few agreed). If he gets 48% of the vote, he’ll gain great prestige and brand-name recognition while still retaining his independence.

This is why his campaign financing has slackened, despite his own personal wealth. And why he indulges in behavior like

> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> [Donald Trump is running Black and Latino leaders out of the RNC.](http://www.salon.com/2016/06/02/mass_exodus_of_minorities_donald_trump_is_running_black_and_latino_leaders_out_of_the_rnc/)

… And the GOP “establishment” has embraced Trump’s excesses!

> [@GIGObuster](#):
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> I heard what an NPR reporter said about the endorsement just made by Paul Ryan, it means that there is now **no daylight** between the Republican party and Trump. Since Ryan said that he found out that Trump is supporting the values of the Republican party and has decided to embrace him, it follows then that the party has decided to embrace bigotry.

With a rational electorate we could hope the GOP is now doomed. Instead, after Hillary’s election, the Trump-influenced GOP will just become more hateful and, I’m afraid, more successful

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2016, 7:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/832 "2016-06-03T07:44:46Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> (bolding mine)
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> Well, for the past few months I’ve been trying to call attention to the fact that Donald Trump is going to be elected president in November and challenging people to prove me wrong.
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> At first no one took me seriously, but now…

So, in other words, you’re doing nothing.

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2016, 12:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/833 "2016-06-03T12:28:45Z")

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[Rachel Maddow announces the results of a recent PPP Poll.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiEY53op25Y) Trump is less popular, among Republican voters, than traffic jams, less popular than lice, and less popular than root canals. Note that these are polls of Republicans, not the general public.

There is some hope for the Donald. While women prefer hemorrhoids to Trump, Donald _ **Trump is more popular than hemorrhoids among Republican men** _.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2016, 12:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/834 "2016-06-03T12:37:34Z")

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> [@Johnny\_Ace](#):
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> So, in other words, you’re doing nothing.

What, practicing his “I told you so’s” isn’t something? Would it help if he learned it in Spanish too?

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**Author:** ![Crybaby\_Boobie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crybaby_boobie/32/545_2.png) [@Crybaby\_Boobie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crybaby_Boobie)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2016, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/835 "2016-06-03T12:40:46Z")

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Yeah, but all that matters is whether these voters find him more popular than Hillary. Who I’m sure is less popular than hemorrhoids with Republicans.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2016, 12:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/836 "2016-06-03T12:51:24Z")

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> [@septimus](#):
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> Note that these are polls of Republicans, not the general public.

[Read the PPP article. (PDF)](http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2015/PPP_Release_National_51016.pdf) The poll was among all registered voters, not just Republicans.

> [@](#):
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> Public Policy Polling surveyed 1,222 registered voters from May 6th to 9th. The margin of error is +/-3.2%. 80% of participants, selected through a list based sample, responded via the phone, while 20% of respondents who did not have landlines conducted the survey over the internet  
> through an opt-in internet panel.

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2016, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/837 "2016-06-03T13:35:46Z")

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Considering Ryan’s “endorsement” of Trump: if criss-crossing the country making full-throated rip-roaring speeches on behalf of a candidate is a “10” on the endorsement scale, shrugging “Yeah, I’ll vote for him, I guess, since Lyndon LaRouche isn’t on the ballot” is a 0.25.

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2016, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/838 "2016-06-03T15:32:35Z")

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So Trump has mastered the art of campaigning, Mitt Romney style. With every jobs report, run to a microphone, wail, and gnash your teeth. It worked so well for Mittens, it’s bound to work for Trumpy.

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**Author:** ![Buford\_was\_no\_angel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@Buford\_was\_no\_angel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buford_was_no_angel)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2016, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/839 "2016-06-03T16:19:50Z")

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n/m

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**Author:** ![Buford\_was\_no\_angel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@Buford\_was\_no\_angel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buford_was_no_angel)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2016, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/840 "2016-06-03T16:23:30Z")

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> [@Jack\_Batty](#):
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> The goddamned Germans got nothing to do with it!

For some reason or another, you sounded a little taller on the radio.

Was the edit worth the wait?

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