# Donald Trump's 2016 General Election Campaign

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [May 4, 2016, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901 "2016-05-04T02:37:34Z")\
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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2016, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/841 "2016-06-04T03:01:06Z")

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[Trump has his very own African-American.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-singles-out-supporter-at-rally-look-at-my-african-american-over-here-222919236.html)

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> “We had a case where we had an African-American guy who was a fan of mine — great fan, great guy. In fact, I want to find out what’s going on with him. You know what? I’m — ” Trump began before stopping himself.
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> Trump pointed into the crowd.
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> “Oh, look at my African-American over here. Look at him. Are you the greatest? Do you know what I’m talking about? OK,” Trump said.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2016, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/842 "2016-06-04T03:02:31Z")

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Has anyone else noticed Donald now uses the phrase “I’m building a wall” like most people say “um” or “uh.” It’s gotten to be like a nervous tic.

[Here he talks about his wall 11 times in 60 seconds.](http://www.politico.com/video/2016/06/donald-trumps-11-walls-in-60-seconds-059023)

[And this interview with Jake Tapper on CNN is painful to watch](https://www.mediamatters.org/video/2016/06/03/watch-cnns-jake-tapper-grill-trump-over-his-racist-attacks-federal-judge/210718). The man is such an oily piece of shit, he can’t stop talking for a minute because if he did he’d have to actually listen to-- and answer-- a question. He’ll just drop “I’m building a wall. A wall. And I’m going to do great with Hispanics” at completely random moments! There’s something seriously, seriously wrong with this guy! He has the most fucked up nervous tic ever!

Oh and then there was that time today when he called out a black guy at his rally by saying [“Look at my African-American over here!”](http://www.politico.com/video/2016/06/donald-trump-look-at-my-african-american-over-here-059024)

How in the bloody fuck have we gotten to this point? How can any decent, moral person think that this candidate is an acceptable choice to be our next president? If he was running as a Democrat, and Jeb! Bush was the Republican nominee, or Kasich, or Rubio, your fucking-a right I’d cast my vote for the (R) candidate.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2016, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/843 "2016-06-04T05:47:46Z")

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> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> Has anyone else noticed Donald now uses the phrase “I’m building a wall” like most people say “um” or “uh.” It’s gotten to be like a nervous tic.
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> [Here he talks about his wall 11 times in 60 seconds.](http://www.politico.com/video/2016/06/donald-trumps-11-walls-in-60-seconds-059023)
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> [And this interview with Jake Tapper on CNN is painful to watch](https://www.mediamatters.org/video/2016/06/03/watch-cnns-jake-tapper-grill-trump-over-his-racist-attacks-federal-judge/210718). The man is such an oily piece of shit, he can’t stop talking for a minute because if he did he’d have to actually listen to-- and answer-- a question. He’ll just drop “I’m building a wall. A wall. And I’m going to do great with Hispanics” at completely random moments! There’s something seriously, seriously wrong with this guy! He has the most fucked up nervous tic ever!
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> Oh and then there was that time today when he called out a black guy at his rally by saying [“Look at my African-American over here!”](http://www.politico.com/video/2016/06/donald-trump-look-at-my-african-american-over-here-059024)
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> How in the bloody fuck have we gotten to this point? How can any decent, moral person think that this candidate is an acceptable choice to be our next president? If he was running as a Democrat, and Jeb! Bush was the Republican nominee, or Kasich, or Rubio, your fucking-a right I’d cast my vote for the (R) candidate.

Tribal identity is strong. Us vs them!

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2016, 6:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/844 "2016-06-04T06:20:39Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> Tribal identity is strong. Us vs them!

Well, it looks like the Tribe of Trump has Baghdad Bob and Joe Isuzu as advisors of the fearless leader.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2016, 7:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/845 "2016-06-04T07:19:34Z")

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**Trump’s Business Acumen is in Losing Life-Altering Sums of Money and Being in Massive Amounts of Debt!**

(You can tell I’ve been on Facebook and Twitter too long today, right? 😉 )

Couldn’t sleep tonight so decided to do a quick review of 16 years worth of 10-k\* filings from Trump’s casino holdings (1993-2010), getting some basic numbers down and putting them in a spreadsheet.

I made a quick graphic and put it on Facebook, but for here, simple numbers will suffice:

16-year Total Revenue: $16.2 billion  
16-year Total Operating Income: $441 million  
16-year Total Net Income: -$1,369 billion  
16-year Total Debt Interest Expense Paid: $2,703 billion  
16-year Average Long-Term Debt on Books: $1,246 billion  
16-year Average Short-Term Debt on Books: $252 million

Trumps casinos made a piddling 2.7% in operating income over the course of 16 years and lost, on average, $85 million a year.

Billionaires, true billionaires, do not do this. They consistently make money. They might have bad years, especially the finance and real estate guys, but the true winners make up for it. I haven’t seen any making up for bad years with Little Man - they’ve _all_ been bad.

Oh, and there are plenty of discussion of lawsuit settlements with various states, which is surprising because I heard that the Donald doesn’t settle?

\*Financial statement filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission.

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**Author:** ![Pearl\_Clutching\_Provocateur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c68b51/32.png) [@Pearl\_Clutching\_Provocateur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pearl_Clutching_Provocateur)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2016, 10:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/846 "2016-06-04T10:48:33Z")

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Wow, no one wants to discuss the violence at Trump’s San Jose rally? Doesn’t anyone here want to justify the attacks by Bernie supporters against those who peacefully attended? Isn’t anyone proud that their fellow Trump haters carry Mexican flags instead of American flags? These are your people. Trump derangement syndrome appears to be real.

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2016, 11:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/847 "2016-06-04T11:03:37Z")

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> [@Pearl\_Clutching\_Provocateur](#):
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> Wow, no one wants to discuss the violence at Trump’s San Jose rally?

It’s wrong, just as Trump himself encouraging violence against peaceful protesters at his rallies is wrong. What’s to discuss?

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2016, 11:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/848 "2016-06-04T11:03:58Z")

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> [@Pearl\_Clutching\_Provocateur](#):
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> Wow, no one wants to discuss the violence at Trump’s San Jose rally? Doesn’t anyone here want to justify the attacks by Bernie supporters against those who peacefully attended?

I condemn the violence. Bernie does as well, come to think of it. And I condemn those who _incite_ violence; it’s my understanding that Bernie condemns them likewise. And neither he nor I seem to have told anyone to hit anybody; nor do either of us seem to have offered to pay anyone’s legal fees for, y’know, such attacks.

What more do you want?

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2016, 11:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/849 "2016-06-04T11:27:08Z")

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> [@Pearl\_Clutching\_Provocateur](#):
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> Doesn’t anyone here want to justify the attacks by Bernie supporters against those who peacefully attended?

How do you know they are Bernie supporters? I’ve heard they are agitators paid by the Trump campaign to create a false flag incident.

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**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2016, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/850 "2016-06-04T14:13:48Z")

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> [@Pearl\_Clutching\_Provocateur](#):
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> Trump derangement syndrome appears to be real.

Okay, even ignoring the lack of connection to the previous statements (how insane we consider Trump has very little to do with his opponents), I find it hard to take this even _remotely_ seriously. To quote Wiki:

American conservative pundit and former psychiatrist[123] Charles Krauthammer, noting the reaction of liberals to George W. Bush and his policies, in a 2003 column coined the term Bush Derangement Syndrome to describe “the acute onset of paranoia in otherwise normal people in reaction to the policies, the presidency—nay—the very existence of George W. Bush”.

Not to put too fine a point on it, but if you aren’t worried about the existence of Trump as a presidential candidate and the impact his proposed policies would have, then you _haven’t been paying attention_. “Trump derangement syndrome” is not a _syndrome_, it’s a completely reasonable reaction. Perhaps a better term would be “Trump complacency syndrome”, to describe those not worried about his candidacy.

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2016, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/851 "2016-06-04T14:29:53Z")

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> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> Outright tarnishing a perfectly qualified, unblemished judge simply because of his race. In a case that has nothing to do with race. I’m just gobsmacked that anyone with any morals whatsoever, or lick of common sense, can support this man as our next president.

Trump no longer believes that this is due to the judge’s “Mexican heritage”.

> [@](#):
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> [He’s a Mexican.](http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/03/politics/donald-trump-tapper-lead/index.html)

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2016, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/852 "2016-06-04T14:59:52Z")

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> [@Pearl\_Clutching\_Provocateur](#):
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> Wow, no one wants to discuss the violence at Trump’s San Jose rally? Doesn’t anyone here want to justify the attacks by Bernie supporters against those who peacefully attended? Isn’t anyone proud that their fellow Trump haters carry Mexican flags instead of American flags? These are your people. Trump derangement syndrome appears to be real.

Those assholes don’t speak for me. What makes you think they’re my responsibility?

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**Author:** ![Peanut\_Gallery](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/838e76/32.png) [@Peanut\_Gallery](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peanut_Gallery)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2016, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/853 "2016-06-04T15:02:04Z")

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> [@Moriarty](#):
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> But, given just how litigious Trump is, there must be _ **legions** _ of people who have disparaging stories to tell him.
> 
> I predict a sensational onslaught of negative press awaits.

And I predict it will not make one lick of difference to half the country, who will be voting for him nonetheless. It has been firmly demonstrated by now that information:rolleyes: does not matter any more. All that matters is Red Team vs Blue Team.

> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> I’m just gobsmacked that anyone with any morals whatsoever, or lick of common sense, can support this man as our next president.

But people with morals or common sense don’t support him. Be gobsmacked that fully half the country lacks either. And be gobsmacked back in 2004 when they proved it by re-electing GWB. I am more gobsmacked that Obama managed to win twice.

That is all the gobs I can smack right now.😃

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2016, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/854 "2016-06-04T15:06:50Z")

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> [@Peanut\_Gallery](#):
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> And I predict it will not make one lick of difference to half the country, who will be voting for him nonetheless. It has been firmly demonstrated by now that information:rolleyes: does not matter any more. All that matters is Red Team vs Blue Team.
> 
> But people with morals or common sense don’t support him. Be gobsmacked that fully half the country lacks either. And be gobsmacked back in 2004 when they proved it by re-electing GWB. I am more gobsmacked that Obama managed to win twice.
> 
> That is all the gobs I can smack right now.😃

Well, sure is worrisome to see about half of Americans voting for him, but it is more likely that it will be just a bit less than half.

[http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-poll-idUSKCN0YP2EX](http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-poll-idUSKCN0YP2EX)

> [@](#):
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> Fri Jun 3, 2016 7:29pm EDT
> 
> Clinton opens up double-digit lead over Trump nationwide: Reuters/Ipsos poll

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**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2016, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/855 "2016-06-04T15:18:07Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> Those assholes don’t speak for me. What makes you think they’re my responsibility?

Let us be very clear here … [from reports](http://www.mercurynews.com/crime-courts/ci_29976111/trump-protest-san-jose-police-chief-defends-officers) it seems that there individual protestors and individual Trump supporters both were involved with starting individual altercations (“Some Trump opponents appeared to attack supporters without provocation”). There are enough assholes to go around.

What matters is how strongly leadership condemn these sorts of actions by those who claim to be their supporters. Or if they fan the fire.

Match the politician to the statement:

“It’s deplorable no matter who’s doing it.”

Those who resort to violence “are not the supporters that I want.”

“… small group of thugs burned Am flag!”

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2016, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/856 "2016-06-04T15:55:09Z")

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[President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho returns.](http://www.avclub.com/article/idiocracy-writers-team-terry-crews-anti-trump-ads-237726)

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> Comparing the current presidential election to Idiocracy has become cliche at this point—as well as depressing, because, well, it’s not wrong. But Etan Cohen still has a free pass to do just that, because he co-wrote the script for the 2006 satire with director Mike Judge. And Cohen and Judge seem determined to undo whatever weird witchcraft they unleashed by making the film, and are now working together on a series of anti-Trump campaign ads in a valiant attempt to put off their dystopian vision a little longer.
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> …Cohen says he and Judge “thought it would take much, much longer to get to this point,” and that they considered the film a satire of celebrity culture, and its political elements “a crazy joke.” He says that, at first, the parallels between this election cycle and the film were “just a general lizard brain kind of thing.” Then, he says, “it started to get, as the year went on, weirdly specific … the more things go on, the more it actually seems to be kind of merging in a very specific, eerie way.”
> 
> After a tweet about those spooky parallels blew up earlier this year, Cohen and Judge went to work on a series of campaign ads for President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho meant to satirize Donald Trump.

I imagine they could just put The Donald’s own words into Camacho’s mouth and it would get their point across…and be hilarious.

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**Author:** ![nani](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/58956e/32.png) [@nani](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nani)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2016, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/857 "2016-06-04T21:05:31Z")

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The amazing thing is Trump still has Latino Republicans to lose.

The stances people take in this election are going to mark them for a long time to come.

I would be surprised if Trump _didn’t_ declare sometime soon that having a “Mexican” judge is equivalent to the all-white juries of the Jim Crow era.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2016, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/858 "2016-06-04T21:21:47Z")

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> [@nani](#):
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> The amazing thing is Trump still has Latino Republicans to lose.
> 
> The stances people take in this election are going to mark them for a long time to come.
> 
> I would be surprised if Trump _didn’t_ declare sometime soon that having a “Mexican” judge is equivalent to the all-white juries of the Jim Crow era.

It truly is fascinating (and horrifying) to watch the Trump ‘campaign’ roll forward. What’s going to be interesting is how the republicans, both individually and collectively, treat Trump in the coming weeks.

I think there were moments a week or so ago when it looked like it was safe to start supporting Trump. But the last week has been a total disaster for Trump - arguably his worst week yet. I agree with you: the effects will be felt for a long time and the republican party will not escape those effects - even if Hillary self-destructs and loses. In some ways, Donald Trump losing would be the best thing to happen to republicans.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2016, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/859 "2016-06-04T21:36:55Z")

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Good twitter help for Trump is hard to find… Either that or he remains a cheapskate or he is the one continuing to make his classic boneheaded tweets.

[http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2016/06/04/3784856/trump-responds-accusations-racism-fake-photo-black-supporters/](http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2016/06/04/3784856/trump-responds-accusations-racism-fake-photo-black-supporters/)

> [@](#):
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> Trump’s comments about the African American man came after reiterating his belief that a federal judge should be disqualified from presiding over the Trump University fraud case because of his “Mexican heritage.” (The judge was born in Indiana.)
> 
> This morning on Twitter, Trump was back at it, highlighting the support of an African-American family.  
> Just one problem. The photo is fake.
> 
> It was not taken at a Trump event. Rather, it was taken at the “The 27th annual Midwest Black Family Reunion” held in Ohio in August 2015. The event featured “music, art, chess, children’s games and other activities.”
> 
> …
> 
> UPDATE JUN 4, 2016 2:21 PM
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> Speaking to BuzzFeed News, the parents in the photo – Eddie and Vanessa Perry – said they are not Trump supporters. They aren’t endorsing or publicly supporting anyone. Eddie Perry called Trump’s use of the photo “misleading” and “political propaganda.”

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**Post date:** [June 5, 2016, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/860 "2016-06-05T04:59:15Z")

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[A poll reports interesting results](http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/01/donald-trump-2016-authoritarian-213533):

> [@](#):
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> a single statistically significant variable predicts whether a voter supports Trump—and it’s not race, income or education levels: It’s authoritarianism…
> 
> In addition to the typical battery of demographic, horse race, thermometer-scale and policy questions, my poll asked a set of four simple survey questions that political scientists have employed since 1992 to measure inclination toward authoritarianism. These questions pertain to child-rearing: whether it is **more important for the voter to have a child who is**  **respectful** or **independent** ; **obedient** or **self-reliant** ; **well-behaved** or **considerate** ; and **well-mannered** or **curious**. Respondents who pick the first option in each of these questions are strongly authoritarian. [my coloring]
> 
> Based on these questions, Trump was the only candidate—Republican or Democrat—whose support among authoritarians was statistically significant.

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