# Donald Trump's 2016 General Election Campaign **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [May 4, 2016, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901 "2016-05-04T02:37:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 49
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2016, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/961 "2016-06-06T13:02:56Z")
I love how white, Christian men are the default, unbiased standard. Anyone else is suspect. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2016, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/962 "2016-06-06T13:24:45Z")
> [@Pearl\_Clutching\_Provocateur](#): > > When the Supreme Court reverses the decision of an all White jury, that presumes every member of that jury is racist. Double standard. How is it stupid that a judge with a chip on his shoulder wouldn’t be biased? Have you looked at his record? How many times has this guy ruled in favor of Hispanics? If we look closer he might be biased. Cites? ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2016, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/963 "2016-06-06T13:38:01Z")
> [@Pearl\_Clutching\_Provocateur](#): > > When the Supreme Court reverses the decision of an all White jury, that presumes every member of that jury is racist. Double standard. Let’s have a cite, since I have no idea what you’re talking about or how this is relevant. Further, unless the reversal claimed that the reason the jury decision was wrong _was because they were white_, rather than for some other reason like because the jury members believed that black people were inherently criminal, then it’s irrelevant. > [@](#): > > How is it stupid that a judge with a chip on his shoulder wouldn’t be biased? Have you looked at his record? How many times has this guy ruled in favor of Hispanics? If we look closer he might be biased. If he’s biased, it’s not because of his ethnicity. Unless you believe in intrinsic differences in character between races, then no particular ethnicity is more or less likely to demonstrate bias in judging than any other. Saying a judge is biased isn’t racist (by itself). Saying a judge is biased _because of his ethnicity_ is racist. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2016, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/964 "2016-06-06T13:42:51Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Cites? I assume that the person is misunderstanding Batson v. Kentucky. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2016, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/965 "2016-06-06T14:12:12Z")
> [@Pearl\_Clutching\_Provocateur](#): > > When the Supreme Court reverses the decision of an all White jury, that presumes every member of that jury is racist. Double standard. How is it stupid that a judge with a chip on his shoulder wouldn’t be biased? Have you looked at his record? How many times has this guy ruled in favor of Hispanics? If we look closer he might be biased. Oh so now you’re questioning the integrity of a federal judge because of his race now too, with no foundation in fact other than the man’s ethnic heritage, and the Republican nominee for president has also done it. And what chip? Is having Mexican parents now considered a “chip” by conservatives? This should be an interesting-- and revealing-- five months for our country. It’s only June and things are already putrid. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2016, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/966 "2016-06-06T14:21:01Z")
> [@Pearl\_Clutching\_Provocateur](#): > > When the Supreme Court reverses the decision of an all White jury, that presumes every member of that jury is racist. Double standard. For anyone confused about what PCP is talking about here: > **[Facts and Case Summary - Batson v. Kentucky](https://www.uscourts.gov/educational-resources/educational-activities/facts-and-case-summary-batson-v-kentucky)** > > Facts: When selecting a jury, both parties may remove potential jurors using an unlimited number of challenges for cause (e.g., stated reasons such as bias) and a limited number of peremptory challenges (i.e., do not need to state a reason). At the... And, in case, you’re still confused, the reason for that is that PCP clearly did not _understand_ Batson v. Kentucky. At no point in the proceedings did the court rule that the all-white jury was necessarily racist and that therefore the trial was incorrect. Rather, they ruled that they way the prosecution removed all African-Americans based on their race constituted a violation of the equal protection act on the part of the prosecution - a procedural problem, sort of like getting evidence dismissed by violating someone’s 4th-amendment rights. Or maybe he’s referring to Foster v. Chatman, which appealed to the same basic principles as Batson v. Kentucky and therefore still has absolutely nothing to do with what he’s saying. I have no idea; it’s an incredibly vague post. > [@](#): > > How is it stupid that a judge with a chip on his shoulder wouldn’t be biased? Evidence that this judge has a “a chip on his shoulder”? > [@](#): > > Have you looked at his record? How many times has this guy ruled in favor of Hispanics? How many times has he ruled in favor of white people? How many times has he done so _improperly_? Have you actually looked at his record? Or are you just assuming that Trump wouldn’t make up a story with absolutely no basis in reality to further his own goals? If the latter, you really, _really_ need to stop doing that. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2016, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/967 "2016-06-06T14:46:19Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > Thanks. > > On second thought, how is an organization called “La Raza” (The Race) not flagrantly racist? Seriously? That’s not was “racist” is. > [@](#): > > He is a member of La Raza Lawyers of California – aka the Latino Bar Association of California There are all kinds of “minority bar associations.” I’ve never heard anyone allege anything improper about it. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2016, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/968 "2016-06-06T15:04:01Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > There are all kinds of “minority bar associations.” I’ve never heard anyone allege anything improper about it. Oh, I’m sure you can find someone saying “How would you feel about a bar association for white men only?” ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2016, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/969 "2016-06-06T15:44:41Z")
If Abraham Lincoln were alive today, he would thrash Trump like Douglas. If Teddy Roosevelt were alive today, he would thrash Trump, period. If Eisenhower were alive today, he would bust Trump to Private First Class Where are the old time Republican values I can support? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![slash2k](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/439d5e/32.png) [@slash2k](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slash2k)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2016, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/970 "2016-06-06T16:46:14Z")
> [@jsgoddess](#): > > Oh, I’m sure you can find someone saying “How would you feel about a bar association for white men only?” The problem, of course, being that until fairly recently, ALL bar associations were for white men only (and not infrequently, for white Protestant men–Jews and Catholics need not apply). The name wasn’t White Male Lawyers’ Association, but that group dominated and (implicitly or explicitly) excluded those who didn’t “fit in.” In fact, that pattern held across numerous professions, which is why organizations for female accountants and minority doctors existed: to have a place where professionals of MY gender and MY religion and MY ethnicity were actually welcomed as participating members, not begrudgingly allowed in the back door after all of the real business had been concluded. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2016, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/971 "2016-06-06T17:07:15Z")
BuzzFeed is terminating its ad deal with the Republican Party because it doesn’t agree with Donald Trump’s campaign. > **[BuzzFeed is terminating its ad deal with the Republican Party because it...](https://www.businessinsider.com/buzzfeed-terminates-republican-ad-deal-over-trump-2016-6?&platform=bi-androidapp)** > > "We don't run cigarette ads because they are hazardous to our health, and we won't accept Trump ads for the same reason," according to Jonah Peretti. ---
**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2016, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/972 "2016-06-06T17:41:49Z")
Ken White, Lawsplainer, has a couple of articles about why Judge Curiel’s summary judgements in Trump’s case looks quite reasonable - [https://popehat.com/2016/06/01/lawsplainer-is-there-anything-unusual-about-judge-curiels-orders-in-the-trump-university-case/](https://popehat.com/2016/06/01/lawsplainer-is-there-anything-unusual-about-judge-curiels-orders-in-the-trump-university-case/) And also about the issue of recusal and how it works - [https://popehat.com/2016/06/06/lawsplainer-when-must-federal-judges-recuse-themselves-anyway/](https://popehat.com/2016/06/06/lawsplainer-when-must-federal-judges-recuse-themselves-anyway/) Ken characterizes Donald’s behavior as “Puerile “Alpha” bullshit” but he also offers citations about how and why a judge might be recused and why he thinks this is all just public posturing. > [@The Lawsplainer](#): > > **So Trump’s argument that a “Mexican” can’t hear is case is bogus?** > > Beyond the shadow of a doubt based on a century of law. Many courts have considered and rejected the argument that a judge of a particular ethnicity, gender, or religion is inherently biased because of the nature of the case. In fact, the argument has been so repeatedly and thoroughly rejected that it’s [sanctionable to make it](https://law.resource.org/pub/us/case/reporter/F3/138/138.F3d.33.97-7193.html). ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2016, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/973 "2016-06-06T17:52:45Z")
> [@Merneith](#): > > Ken characterizes Donald’s behavior as “Puerile “Alpha” bullshit” but he also offers citations about how and why a judge might be recused and why he thinks this is all just public posturing. That would explain why Donald keeps mouthing off, but his lawyers remain strangely silent: they have no interest in getting slapped. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2016, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/974 "2016-06-06T18:01:10Z")
The incoherent rambling, the compulsive repetition of phrases and words, the directly contradictory statements, the inability to focus in answering questions without tangential commentary, refusal to take advice from campaign staff, demonstrable [Dunning-Kruger effect](http://psych.colorado.edu/~vanboven/teaching/p7536_heurbias/p7536_readings/kruger_dunning.pdf), lack of self-reflection, social tone-deafness, rage and bullying, overt racism… is Trump mentally ill? ---
**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2016, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/975 "2016-06-06T18:02:22Z")
To paraphrase the Dude: he’s not mentally ill, he’s just an asshole. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2016, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/976 "2016-06-06T18:24:23Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > If Teddy Roosevelt were alive today, he would thrash Trump, period. [“If it were not for the high office I held, I would have taken him by the seat of the pants and the nape of the neck and thrown him out the window.”](http://learningenglish.voanews.com/a/roosevelt-wrestles-powerful-business-interests-as-president--100478299/115907.html) -Teddy Roosevelt, when dealing with a robber baron. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2016, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/977 "2016-06-06T18:59:43Z")
I would happily vote for a dead Theodore Roosevelt over an all-too-alive Donald Trump. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2016, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/978 "2016-06-06T19:16:09Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > I would happily vote for a dead Theodore Roosevelt over an all-too-alive Donald Trump. No one would have to filibuster his SC nominees. The state of the union speeches would be real, real short. But if his arm fell off while he was visiting a foreign country, people would say that he’s with a foreign power, at least in part! Though he wouldn’t stand with them on anything… It’s a tossup. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2016, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/979 "2016-06-06T19:24:42Z")
Theodore Roosevelt, more than any other political figure, gives me shivering fits of love/hate. Much to admire in his progressivism, but dear God! A man who believed that war was some sort of manly, virile sport? And believed it even after he saw its face? I don’t get it, I just don’t get it… ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2016, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/980 "2016-06-06T21:05:25Z")
[Trump Orders Surrogates to Intensify Criticism of Judge and Journalists](http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-06-06/trump-orders-surrogates-to-intensify-criticism-of-judge-and-journalists) > [@](#): > > During a Monday conference call with supporters, the presumptive **Republican presidential nominee overruled a directive sent out by his own campaign.** Who’s running the show? > [@](#): > > An embattled Donald Trump urgently rallied his most visible supporters to defend his attacks on a federal judge’s Mexican ancestry during a conference call on Monday in which he ordered them to question the judge’s credibility and impugn reporters as racists. > > “We will overcome,” Trump said, according to two supporters who were on the call and requested anonymity to share their notes with Bloomberg Politics. “And I’ve always won and I’m going to continue to win. And that’s the way it is.” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901.md?page=48) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901.md?page=50)