# Donald Trump's 2016 General Election Campaign

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [May 4, 2016, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901 "2016-05-04T02:37:34Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Little\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c57346/32.png) [@Little\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Pig)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2016, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1181 "2016-06-12T16:17:19Z")

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I’m interested to see how the presidential candidates spin the Orlando slaughter. How about you?

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2016, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1182 "2016-06-12T16:23:52Z")

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> [@Little\_Pig](#):
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> I’m interested to see how the presidential candidates spin the Orlando slaughter. How about you?

Seems pretty straight-forward (at least now, when there are virtually no facts to work with … but when has that ever stopped the commentary)

Hillary: guns and/or anti-gay hate crime. Trump: Muslims.

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**Author:** ![DonLogan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/51bf81/32.png) [@DonLogan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DonLogan)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2016, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1183 "2016-06-12T16:24:53Z")

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Dems spin mass shootings as a need for gun control.

Repubs spin mass shootings as either terrorism or “mental illness” depending on the ethnicity of the shooter.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2016, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1184 "2016-06-12T17:26:17Z")

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> [@Pearl\_Clutching\_Provocateur](#):
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> How is Google going to hide the Islamic terror attack in Orlando to protect Hillary’s presidential bid? A whole page and not one mention of how this is going to affect the election. Obama has made us vulnerable. He has blood on his hands. We were safe under Bush.

We were safe under Bush except for the thousands killed in 9/11, and the thousands of American servicemen killed overseas for nothing, and numerous other small attacks…

The body count for Americans under Obama is orders of magnitude lower than it was under Bush. We’ve been much, much safer under Obama.

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2016, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1185 "2016-06-12T17:30:19Z")

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Not at home, although this kind of attack is not very preventable. This wasn’t an infiltration by enemy operatives, this is just some dude who went into a murderous rage over two guys kissing.

I suppose it couldn’t hurt to start asking immigrants about their views on homosexuality before deciding whether to let them come here, but it’s not clear if this guy got his hate from his parents or from the internet.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2016, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1186 "2016-06-12T17:31:17Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> Not at home

NYC and the Pentagon (and Pennsylvania) count as “home”.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2016, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1187 "2016-06-12T17:35:40Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> Not at home, although this kind of attack is not very preventable. This wasn’t an infiltration by enemy operatives, this is just some dude who went into a murderous rage over two guys kissing.
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> I suppose it couldn’t hurt to start asking immigrants about their views on homosexuality before deciding whether to let them come here, but it’s not clear if this guy got his hate from his parents or from the internet.

He was born here-27 years ago. He’s had plenty of time to develop his own views. No need to blame his parents.  
I rather doubt they came here with the long range plan of spreading terrorism and radicalizing their son.

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**Author:** ![AnalogSignal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/analogsignal/32/1085_2.png) [@AnalogSignal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AnalogSignal)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2016, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1188 "2016-06-12T17:56:53Z")

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Will Trump call for internment camps for American Muslims? Will he make an offhand offensive comment about gays? There is no filter between Trump’s reptile brain and his mouth. Anything is possible.

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**Author:** ![DonLogan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/51bf81/32.png) [@DonLogan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DonLogan)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2016, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1189 "2016-06-12T18:12:20Z")

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> [@AnalogSignal](#):
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> Will Trump call for internment camps for American Muslims? Will he make an offhand offensive comment about gays? There is no filter between Trump’s reptile brain and his mouth. Anything is possible.

That is correct. People may think this sort of thing plays into Trump’s hand, but that’s not the case.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2016, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1190 "2016-06-12T18:19:18Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> He was born here-27 years ago. He’s had plenty of time to develop his own views. No need to blame his parents.  
> I rather doubt they came here with the long range plan of spreading terrorism and radicalizing their son.

> **[Orlando gay club terrorist Omar Mateen pledged allegiance to ISIS, was...](https://www.nydailynews.com/2016/06/12/orlando-gay-club-terrorist-omar-mateen-pledged-allegiance-to-isis-was-investigated-twice-by-fbi-family-says-he-was-abusive-and-homophobic/)**
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> Omar Mateen, the lone gunman in thedeadliest shooting in American history, was an abusive and homophobic menace who was investigated by the FBI and pledged allegiance to ISIS right before his massa…

If the Daily News report is accurate Homophobia was there already for the perpetrator, and the trigger was having to explain to his son why some of “those people” were kissing in public. I also think that radicalization had something to do but it looks like there were also mental issues involved.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2016, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1191 "2016-06-12T19:08:31Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> He was born here-27 years ago. He’s had plenty of time to develop his own views. No need to blame his parents.  
> I rather doubt they came here with the long range plan of spreading terrorism and radicalizing their son.

His father ran for President of Afghanistan on a pro-Taliban platform.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2016, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1192 "2016-06-12T19:39:42Z")

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Did he win the California primary, but Hillary cheated him out of it?

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**Author:** ![DonLogan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/51bf81/32.png) [@DonLogan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DonLogan)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2016, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1193 "2016-06-12T20:59:12Z")

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> [@Pearl\_Clutching\_Provocateur](#):
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> How is Google going to hide the Islamic terror attack in Orlando to protect Hillary’s presidential bid? A whole page and not one mention of how this is going to affect the election. Obama has made us vulnerable. He has blood on his hands. We were safe under Bush.

You should of thought of that when you allowed Google to buy Television and Radio and take them off the air.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2016, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1194 "2016-06-12T21:12:09Z")

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> [@DonLogan](#):
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> You should of thought of that when you allowed Google to buy Television and Radio and take them off the air.

Not to worry. In some of the hinterlands, one can still find an ancient communications medium called a “newspaper”. You know, news. On paper. Some of the big media companies dabble in them a bit, as a sideline.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2016, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1195 "2016-06-12T21:17:46Z")

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> This made me laugh out loud. Yeah, an article doesn’t say Trump is intent on getting his money back, therefore he’s not intent on getting his money back. 😃

> [@CarnalK](#):
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> I’m sure he’d love his money back, who the hell wouldn’t? But you are just blathering without the remotest clue about campaign finance rules

Clearly you didn’t read the posts to which you responded; if you had, you’d see that I _wasn’t_ asserting Trump’s respect for campaign finance rules or determination to be restricted by campaign finance rules or likelihood of seeing campaign finance rules as relevant to his desire to get his money back. (I was asserting the opposite.)

> [@Pearl\_Clutching\_Provocateur](#):
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> We were safe under Bush.

> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> We were safe under Bush except for the thousands killed in 9/11, and the thousands of American servicemen killed overseas for nothing, and numerous other small attacks…  
> The body count for Americans under Obama is orders of magnitude lower than it was under Bush. We’ve been much, much safer under Obama.

There you go again, offering _facts_ to a Republican. By now you surely know that they simply _will not stand_ for any employment of facts!

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2016, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1196 "2016-06-12T22:50:15Z")

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Trump on Muslim immigrants won’t work, unless, of course, he’s talking only to the factually-challenged. Sateen was born and raised in the US.

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**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2016, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1197 "2016-06-12T23:26:50Z")

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Trump hugging the flag during a rally. Trump accepting congratulations after the shooting in Florida. This had got to reflect negatively on him, right? Someone please tell me the majority of Americans are not this self-centered and stupid.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2016, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1198 "2016-06-12T23:39:42Z")

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> [@Biggirl](#):
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> … Someone please tell me the majority of Americans are not this self-centered and stupid.

That’s what it always comes back to, for me: a continuing astonishment that anyone could find that individual worthy of, gadzooks, _admiration._

How is it possible? How could anyone look at that and _approve_? How could brains of individuals of the same species work as differently as that?

(These are all rhetorical questions, of course. :()

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2016, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1199 "2016-06-12T23:40:46Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Originally Posted by Pearl Clutching Provocateur  
> How is Google going to hide the Islamic terror attack in Orlando to protect Hillary’s presidential bid? A whole page and not one mention of how this is going to affect the election. Obama has made us vulnerable. He has blood on his hands. We were safe under Bush.

This is a joke right? Remember September 11, 2001? Not a safe day.

What, exactly would Obama have done to make us safer from attacks by an American born shooter like this one? Close the boarder? no help. Ban Muslims from entering the US? no help. Ban assault rifles? worth a try perhaps.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2016, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1200 "2016-06-13T00:16:14Z")

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> [@Procrustus](#):
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> This is a joke right? Remember September 11, 2001? Not a safe day.
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> What, exactly would Obama have done to make us safer from attacks by an American born shooter like this one? Close the boarder? no help. Ban Muslims from entering the US? no help. Ban assault rifles? worth a try perhaps.

Sounds like this dude was already on the FBI’s radar. But the gun-humpers have made sure that we can’t take away the RIGHT of someone like this to purchase as much person-killing hardware as he can carry. He was allowed to legally purchase military-grade weapons, despite being a known risk. Because FREEDOM. Thanks NRA.

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