# Donald Trump's 2016 General Election Campaign **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [May 4, 2016, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901 "2016-05-04T02:37:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 62
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2016, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1221 "2016-06-13T15:08:55Z")
A vagrant opinion with no visible means of support. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2016, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1222 "2016-06-13T16:08:04Z")
> [@AnalogSignal](#): > > The original Hitler was dull grainy black and white. He doesn’t really come across on modern TV. He just looks old. > > The new Orange Hitler really pops! Yellow hair, orange skin, red ties, and Twitter insults! What more could you want? Orange Hitler is an awesome 21st century reboot of the dictator franchise. :: golf clap :: Have you bought the rights to [OrangeHitler.com](http://OrangeHitler.com) yet? > [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > [Trump demands Obama resign over Orlando.](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-orlando-obama-resign_us_575dc769e4b0e39a28adebd3?section=politics) But… but he… but… how does that… I don’t… Wow. Words fail me. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2016, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1223 "2016-06-13T16:43:15Z")
I love science and work in technology, but my original training was in social studies and history. So I do respect Ken Burns (of The Civil War, Baseball, Prohibition, The War (WWII) fame) a lot. And AFAICR he has come in favor of democrats before but has only criticized Republicans like McCain in mild terms. This year the gloves are off. > **[Ken Burns May Have Given The Best Donald Trump Takedown Yet](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/ken-burns-donald-trump_n_575daa58e4b0ced23ca85aa4?ir=Politics§ion=us_politics&utm_hp_ref=politics)** > > "Asking this man to assume the highest office in the land would be like asking a newly minted car driver to fly a 747." > [@](#): > > At the top of his speech in Stanford Stadium, in Palo Alto, California, Burns noted he always strives for “conscious neutrality in my work, avoiding the advocacy of many of my colleagues.” > > But he soon ripped into the candidate, telling graduates that the stakes were too high to pretend that he could potentially be a good choice for the presidency. > > “There comes a time when I and you can no longer remain neutral, silent — we must speak up and speak out,” said Burns, who is known for historical documentaries. “For 216 years, our elections — though bitterly contested — have featured the philosophies and characters of candidates who were clearly qualified.” > > “That is not the case this year,” he said, to a round of applause. > > During his takedown, Burns made several stinging points without even using the candidate’s name. > > **“He is an insult to our history,” Burns said. A moment later, he implored: “Do not be deceived by his momentary good behavior. It is only a spoiled, misbehaving child hoping somehow to still have dessert.”** > > Burns described the candidate as one who “is against lots of things but doesn’t seem to be for anything,” offers “bombastic and contradictory promises,” is a “terrifying Orwellian statesman,” “insults veterans, threatens a free press, mocks the handicapped, denigrates women, immigrants and Muslims.” > > Burns reminded the audience that Trump avoided several chances to disavow David Duke, an advocate for white supremacy and former Ku Klux Klan leader. > > \*\*Trump is “a person who easily lies,” he continued; “who creates an environment where the truth doesn’t seem to matter, who has never demonstrated any interest in anyone or anything but himself and his own enrichment.” He is “an infantile, bullying man, who depending on his mood is willing to discard old and established alliances, treaties and long-standing relationships,” Burns said. His candidacy “is a political Ponzi scheme.” > > “Asking this man to assume the highest office in the land would be like asking a newly minted car driver to fly a 747,” he declared. \*\* ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2016, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1224 "2016-06-13T18:02:35Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > I’m not going to make it five more months. None of us will, we’ll all be nucking futs! My mind is going, Dave. I can feel it. There is no question about it… \*\*\*Crazy, crazy, Elect me Pres-dent, do! I’m not lazy, If you thwart me, I’ll sue! It won’t be a stable regime, You can’t afford to daydream. But you’ll feel fine On the front line Of an endless war (revenue!!!) \*\*\* ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2016, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1225 "2016-06-13T19:37:21Z")
[Trump lies that Omar Mateen was born in Afghanistan, when actually he was born in the United States.](http://gawker.com/donald-trump-veers-off-script-to-lie-about-where-the-or-1781904813) it looks like it was an ad lib, and not in the text of the speech. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2016, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1226 "2016-06-13T20:23:57Z")
Sounds to me like he misread the teleprompter, but once it was out of his mouth he automatically believed it. ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2016, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1227 "2016-06-13T20:32:01Z")
But he refuses to ever say the killer’s name. Smart! Tough! ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2016, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1228 "2016-06-13T20:53:16Z")
[Politico is pulling no punches when reporting on the Orange Coward’s bullshit.](http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/donald-trump-hillary-clinton-terrorism-224278?cmpid=sf) > [@](#): > > Presumptive Republican nominee Donald Trump embraced the politics of fear in the wake of the deadliest shooting in U.S. history, declaring Americans to be living in an “age of terror" and himself as the only leader resolute enough to confront threats at home and abroad… > > It was a remarkable and harsh speech, filled with inaccuracies… > > He was as loose with the facts as he was aggressive in presenting them, at one point declaring that the shooter in Orlando was “an Afghan” (he was born in New York) and misrepresenting Clinton’s immigration plans (saying wrongly she “wants to allow radical Islamic terrorists to pour into our country”). ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2016, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1229 "2016-06-13T21:08:21Z")
Well all the prognosticators get to see how smart they are. Lots of people said some kind of big attack would help Trump. Now we get to see. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2016, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1230 "2016-06-13T21:18:09Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > [Politico is pulling no punches when reporting on the Orange Coward’s bullshit.](http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/donald-trump-hillary-clinton-terrorism-224278?cmpid=sf) > > > [@](#): > > > > He was as loose with the facts as he was aggressive in presenting them, at one point declaring that the shooter in Orlando was “an Afghan” (he was born in New York) Well, to be honest, how many times do we see people born in this country referred to as being Vietnamese or Korean or Asian or Swedish or whatever? A specific example would be Steve Jobs, who was often and proudly referred to as being Syrian even though he was born here. One reference speaks to heritage, the other to citizenship. Thus it isn’t necessarily wrong for Trump to refer to the shooter as being “an Afghan” even though he was born in the U.S. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2016, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1231 "2016-06-13T21:20:28Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Well, to be honest, how many times do we see people born in this country referred to as being Vietnamese or Korean or Asian or Swedish or whatever? A specific example would be Steve Jobs, who was often and proudly referred to as being Syrian even though he was born here. One reference speaks to heritage, the other to citizenship. Thus it isn’t necessarily wrong for Trump to refer to the shooter as being “an Afghan” even though he was born in the U.S. He has a pattern of calling people by their ethnic heritage and implying that it’s somehow negative or less than American – he did it with the judge, and now he did it with the shooter. The fact that the shooter was, in fact, evil, does not mitigate this pattern. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2016, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1232 "2016-06-13T21:22:11Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Well, to be honest, how many times do we see people born in this country referred to as being Vietnamese or Korean or Asian or Swedish or whatever? A specific example would be Steve Jobs, who was often and proudly referred to as being Syrian even though he was born here. One reference speaks to heritage, the other to citizenship. Thus it isn’t necessarily wrong for Trump to refer to the shooter as being “an Afghan” even though he was born in the U.S. He stated he was born in Afghanistan and then moved here. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2016, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1233 "2016-06-13T21:22:25Z")
> [@Bayard](#): > > But he refuses to ever say the killer’s name. Smart! Tough! He should resign for refusing to say the word “Mateen”. ---
**Author:** ![Nonsuch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nonsuch/32/2922_2.png) [@Nonsuch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nonsuch)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2016, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1234 "2016-06-13T21:36:10Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > He has a pattern of calling people by their ethnic heritage and implying that it’s somehow negative or less than American – he did it with the judge, and now he did it with the shooter. Not to mention Elizabeth “Pocahontas” Warren. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2016, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1235 "2016-06-13T21:38:43Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > He stated he was born in Afghanistan and then moved here. In that case I stand corrected. I hadn’t heard what Trump actually said and was responding to what _Politico_ said in **Happy Lendervedder’s** post. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2016, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1236 "2016-06-13T21:44:24Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > He has a pattern of calling people by their ethnic heritage and implying that it’s somehow negative or less than American – he did it with the judge, and now he did it with the shooter. No, just like with Trump’s alleged racist and misogynist comments that really weren’t, this is a deliberate distortion of what he was talking about. Saying that a judge might be biased because he is of a heritage that the defendant is widely accused of insulting is not remotely the same thing as saying that the judge’s heritage is negative or less than American. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2016, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1237 "2016-06-13T21:48:55Z")
> [@Nonsuch](#): > > Not to mention Elizabeth “Pocahontas” Warren. Even people of a liberal lean on this very board have acknowledged that Trump’s calling Elizabeth Warren “Pocahontas” was mockery of her claim to American Indian heritage and not mockery of American Indians themselves. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2016, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1238 "2016-06-13T21:52:48Z")
Trump has [added](http://money.cnn.com/2016/06/13/media/donald-trump-washington-post-credentials/) The Washington Post to his blacklist: > [@](#): > > Donald Trump said Monday that he is “revoking” the Washington Post’s press access at his campaign events, calling the newspaper “phony and dishonest.” ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2016, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1239 "2016-06-13T21:53:32Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > No, just like with Trump’s alleged racist and misogynist comments that really weren’t, this is a deliberate distortion of what he was talking about. Saying that a judge might be biased because he is of a heritage that the defendant is widely accused of insulting is not remotely the same thing as saying that the judge’s heritage is negative or less than American. You mean aside from calling the judge ‘Mexican?’ And then alleging bias SOLELY because of his race? That’s the very definition of racist. Nice try, though. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2016, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1240 "2016-06-13T22:05:38Z")
It would be like referring to Trump as a German- nobody fucking does that. But if it comforts disengenuous conservatives, I’ll pretend I don’t hear the whistle. (Not really, but I’ll pretend to pretend, you know, to shelter their feelings.) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901.md?page=61) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901.md?page=63)