# Donald Trump's 2016 General Election Campaign

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [May 4, 2016, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901 "2016-05-04T02:37:34Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2016, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1321 "2016-06-14T20:09:06Z")

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> [@Procrustus](#):
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> If Trump weren’t such a stupid ass, I’d almost believe he’s running for president as simply a means to politicize his Trump University lawsuit and get a new judge. I bet he cares more about winning that lawsuit than winning the Presidency.

See, now I want to believe this is all just an overly-elaborate plan to pardon himself.

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**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2016, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1322 "2016-06-14T21:49:14Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> IMO, what Trump is really doing is attempting to negate the damage that may have been caused by the release of some of the accusations in the lawsuit. He’s trying to make it appear to his base and to those who may be undecided that incriminating evidence against him has been released to the public by a biased judge who has it in for him, while at the same time exculpatory information has been repressed. This serves to negate as much as possible the damaging information about his university which the lawsuit alleges, while at the same time making him look like the victim once again of bias, bias that he also points out frequently when it comes from the news media. So basically he’s saying “Don’t believe all this stuff about my university because you’re getting slanted and incomplete information that is deliberately designed to make me look bad.”

Yes, everyone can see that’s what he’s doing. However, slinging a pack of racist accusations that a judge is biased because of his race is not magically non-racist even if Donald is just saying it to protect his standing with his idiot racist fans.

In fact, undermining the American judicial system by making racist accusations about the judge for his own personal benefit is conduct unbecoming in a man who aspires to be President. By baselessly accusing the judge of bias for his own personal gain, Donald Trump shows himself unfit for public office.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2016, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1323 "2016-06-14T22:23:34Z")

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Republicans are not racists, they are just tolerant and accepting of other people’s eccentricities! We could all profit from their example.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2016, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1324 "2016-06-14T22:24:34Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> :: covers phone ::
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> The Fraternal Order of Latvians is holding on Line 1 for you, **elucidator**.

I sent them a potato last year! Now they’re sad _again_?

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**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2016, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1325 "2016-06-14T23:51:25Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Republicans are not racists, they are just tolerant and accepting of other people’s eccentricities! We could all profit from their example.

It’s horrible to judge a group by the circle of associates it’s spent decades cultivating and pandering to. Why, that’s guilt by association! Guilt by repeated, knowing, deliberate association!

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**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2016, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1326 "2016-06-15T02:10:04Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> [Should Shared Ancestry Force A Judge's Recusal? : NPR](http://www.npr.org/2015/01/24/379550390/should-shared-ancestry-force-a-judges-recusal-in-immigration-cases)
> 
> A judge forced to recuse due to ethnicity by the Obama administration? That textbook racist!
> 
> [About That "Wise Latina" Statement - The Atlantic](http://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2009/05/about-that-wise-latina-statement/18334/)  
> You were saying?

Thanks for posting Sotomayer’s comments. You saved me the trouble.

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**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2016, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1327 "2016-06-15T02:16:44Z")

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> [@Merneith](#):
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> I realize that this is not addressed to me - but I want to once again emphasize that no, Trump’s concerns about the Judge’s ancestry and the possibility that the Judge might be biased because, as Donald Trump insists, he’s building a wall - do not have a basis for a proper legal challenge against the judge.
> 
> Once again, I will quote from the Popehat blog, an actual lawyer citing an actual law:
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> Here is the full url that Ken included in that post:  
> [138 F.3d 33](https://law.resource.org/pub/us/case/reporter/F3/138/138.F3d.33.97-7193.html)
> 
> Here is a the header matter of that page, for future reference:
> 
> 138 F.3d 33
> 
> MACDRAW, INC., Plaintiff, Klayman and Associates, P.C.,  
> Larry Klayman and Paul J. Orfanedes, Appellants,  
> v.  
> CIT GROUP EQUIPMENT FINANCING, INC. and Richard Johnston,  
> Defendants-Appellees.
> 
> No. 97-7193.
> 
> United States Court of Appeals,  
> Second Circuit
> 
> Argued May 15, 1997.  
> Decided Feb. 18, 1998.
> 
> It’s a short discussion of a case where one party objected to the judge for being a) a Bill Clinton appointee and b) Chinese. I will quote the conclusion:
> 
> Emphasis mine.
> 
> There is no factual basis for Donald Trump’s assertion that Judge Curiel is biased against him. Merely braying, “I’m building a wall!” does not establish a factual proof of biased action on the part of Judge Curiel.
> 
> Trump has made no legal move in court, even asking for Curiel to recuse himself. All he’s done is spew bullshit on tv. To return to quoting Ken -
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> Ultimately, Donald’s mouth is writing checks that his legal team has no intention of trying to cash. There’s no rational reason for anyone else to accept Donald’s checks, either.

So you disagree with Justice Sotomayor? Okay.

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**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2016, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1328 "2016-06-15T02:20:45Z")

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Here - I’ll do you the favor of [reposting CarnalK’s response back in post #1299](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19404371&postcount=1299) that the Justice Department has already reversed itself on that order, eight months ago,

> [@NPR](#):
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> Last year Los Angeles-based Immigration Judge Ashley Tabaddor sued the Justice Department, claiming that the order amounted to discrimination and violated her constitutional rights.
> 
> Tuesday, the Justice Department backed down. Judge Tabaddor’s attorneys announced that the Justice Department had agreed to lift its order, review its recusal policies and pay her $200,000.
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> “We are pleased the DOJ came to terms on this matter,” said Tabaddor’s attorney, Ali Mojdehi, a partner with Cooley.

So the Obama Justice Department realized their error, admitted they were wrong and are making amends. Unlike You-Know-Who.  
Also: God damn this Republican bullshit of racing to find a vague comparable example of Democratic bad behavior and then acting like it somehow absolves them of condemning or, heaven forbid, rectifying some Republican’s bad behavior.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2016, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1329 "2016-06-15T02:22:12Z")

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[Trump accused American Iraq veterans of stealing millions of dollars of US money earmarked for Iraw redevelopment.](http://www.addictinginfo.org/2016/06/14/trump-accuses-american-soldiers-of-stealing-millions-of-dollars-of-aid-money-in-iraq-video/)

I think He might want to consider looking into Dick Cheney’s pockets.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2016, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1330 "2016-06-15T02:24:51Z")

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> [@Merneith](#):
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> Here - I’ll do you the favor of [reposting CarnalK’s response back in post #1299](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19404371&postcount=1299) that the Justice Department has already reversed itself on that order, eight months ago,
> 
> So the Obama Justice Department realized their error, admitted they were wrong and are making amends. Unlike You-Know-Who.  
> Also: God damn this Republican bullshit of racing to find a vague comparable example of Democratic bad behavior and then acting like it somehow absolves them of condemning or, heaven forbid, rectifying some Republican’s bad behavior.

The oddest part is the attitude of “We found something sorta comparable and that means we can continue wallowing in the sewage.”

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2016, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1331 "2016-06-15T02:27:24Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> :: covers phone ::
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> The Fraternal Order of Latvians is holding on Line 1 for you, **elucidator**.

Take a message. If they call again, take a message. Third time, take a message. Then call back and say, “Hi, this is **elucidator!** Any calls for me?!”

OK, it actually works better on Estonians . . .

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2016, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1332 "2016-06-15T02:33:58Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> [Trump accused American Iraq veterans of stealing millions of dollars of US money earmarked for Iraw redevelopment.](http://www.addictinginfo.org/2016/06/14/trump-accuses-american-soldiers-of-stealing-millions-of-dollars-of-aid-money-in-iraq-video/)
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> I think He might want to consider looking into Dick Cheney’s pockets.

The Dem and Pub Establishments . . . corporations that offshore and outsource . . . China . . . Latinos . . . Muslims . . . Political Correctness . . . veterans . . . POW veterans in particular . . . OK, who’s next on Trump’s Enemies List, and how can this actually be happening?!

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**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2016, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1333 "2016-06-15T02:35:51Z")

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> [@magellan01](#):
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> So you disagree with Justice Sotomayor? Okay.

Lol. To begin with, Sotomayor’s one remark in a speech she gave one time, 15 years ago does not mean that she believes that judges are incapable of being impartial in case which touch on their ancestry.

Secondly, Sotomayor expanded on that one remark during her confirmation hearing, in which she specifically rebuted the notion that judges are inherently biased in favor of their ethnicity:

> **[Sotomayor backs off 'wise Latina' remarks](https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2009-jul-15-na-sotomayor-wise15-story.html)**
>
> Sotomayor backs off 'wise Latina' remarks

> [@Justice Sotomayor](#):
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> Judge Sonia Sotomayor seemed determined Tuesday to put to rest the talk of her as the “wise Latina” who might make better decisions than a white male because of her gender or ethnicity.
> 
> The statement was a “rhetorical flourish that fell flat,” the Supreme Court nominee told senators, saying for the first time that her most famous words had “created a misunderstanding” about her views of the law and judging.
> 
> In distancing herself from some of her best-known speeches, Sotomayor said: “I do not believe that any ethnic, racial or gender group has an advantage in sound judging.” Although judges are “not robots” and are affected by their backgrounds, these personal experiences do not decide cases, she added.
> 
> “That can affect what we see or how we feel, but that’s not what drives a result. . . . The law is what commands the result,” she said.
> 
> “My record shows that at no point or time have I ever permitted my personal views or sympathies to influence an outcome of a case,” she added later.

So yeah, as a matter of fact, I _do_ agree with Sonia Sotomayor.

But thanks for providing a timely illustration of a Republican snatching wildly at Democratic troubles in hopes of deflecting attention from your team’s malfeasance.  
ETA: and speaking of timely - that LA Times article is seven years old. Octopus’ reference to Sotomayor was rebuted over half a decade ago. Your figleaf is looking kind of tatty, boys.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2016, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1334 "2016-06-15T02:52:12Z")

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[Trump accuses soldiers of stealing millions while in Iraq.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wj1ybv8B9JI)

And he just keeps sinking lower…and lower… and lower. And I’ll bet his supporters don’t waver one bit.  
Good side of it:Watching McConnell and Ryan and all the rest squirm.

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**Author:** ![Alley\_Dweller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alley_dweller/32/430_2.png) [@Alley\_Dweller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alley_Dweller)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2016, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1335 "2016-06-15T03:56:51Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> [Trump accuses soldiers of stealing millions while in Iraq.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wj1ybv8B9JI)
> 
> And he just keeps sinking lower…and lower… and lower. And I’ll bet his supporters don’t waver one bit.  
> Good side of it:Watching McConnell and Ryan and all the rest squirm.

[He first made the same accusation last October](http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/oct/01/donald-trump-syrian-refugees-could-be-isis) and it didn’t hurt him one bit then.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2016, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1336 "2016-06-15T04:38:01Z")

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[Trump is now making Chris Christie go on McDonald’s runs for him.](http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/trump-chris-christie-manservant-mcdonalds)

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**Author:** ![AnalogSignal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/analogsignal/32/1085_2.png) [@AnalogSignal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AnalogSignal)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2016, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1337 "2016-06-15T05:04:06Z")

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Trump missed the obvious solution – personal walls. The government should build personal, portable bullet-proof walls for every American. If a terrorist starts shooting, get behind your personal wall. Problem solved. And if you’re not one of those liberal sissies, shoot back at the terrorist and kill him dead!

We will build these 300 million personal walls right here in the good ole USA creating full employment. Every American will have a job and be safe from terrorism.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2016, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1338 "2016-06-15T05:19:20Z")

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But… I thought building walls was Mexican work! No white man should need to build his own wall!

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**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2016, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1339 "2016-06-15T05:28:40Z")

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I just read a series of tweets that claim to be a very scary description of Trump supporters’ behavior at a NC rally tonight. It makes me wonder, with all the media play during the general, whether those kinds of supporters might end up doing more damage to the campaign than the candidate himself.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2016, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1340 "2016-06-15T05:33:12Z")

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[https://storify.com/case\_face/a-trump-rally-in-greensboro-anger-in-here-is-palpa](https://storify.com/case_face/a-trump-rally-in-greensboro-anger-in-here-is-palpa)

(Leaper’s “series of tweets”)

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