# Donald Trump's 2016 General Election Campaign **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [May 4, 2016, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901 "2016-05-04T02:37:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 79
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2016, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1561 "2016-06-19T04:50:51Z")
> [@tomndebb](#): > > While you may be correct, I note that the second of the cases you cite were related to persons who already held office. > ETA: Are there such laws applicable to Federal offices? _Former_, not current Davidson County prosecutor, making the offer regarding someone _running for_ a Superior Court judge seat. Yes, the offer was texted (texted? dang stupid.) to the spouse of the person running who was an elected official, but the elected official spouse was not being asked to perform any action herself. Are they applicable to Federal offices? Well minimally there are state laws. In addition to the two above here’s [Utah’s](https://elections.utah.gov/Media/Default/Documents/Candidate%20Guides/Candidate%20Guide%20Campaign%20Laws.pdf) > [@](#): > > You also cannot bribe other candidates to drop out of the race, to stay in the race, or to perform any other action. Paying for endorsements is also prohibited. > > Bribery is taken very seriously in Utah; anyone who commits bribery is subject to a third degree felony. [And Alabama’s](http://codes.lp.findlaw.com/alcode/17/5/17-5-7) specifying that it applies to candidates as well as elected oficials. (See c.2.) Pretty sure we could find more. I do not know if there is or is not an explicit Federal version of those laws or if the state laws apply to Federal races within their borders (which would include of course the Presidency). Maybe there is no explicit Federal law and the applicability of the states’ laws to Federal elections has not been tested yet. But we can state, minimally, that being paid to bow out of an election, and paying in order to get someone to bow out of an election, are considered bribery, a felony, in many states. ---
**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2016, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1562 "2016-06-19T05:50:23Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > Look, there really is a personal quality called “class,” which is admirable and worth having. Vulgarity is lack of class. Persons of practically any social background can have some class if they really try, and The Donald has never in his life tried. We all know people like him, people who are the exact opposite of what you think when you hear the word “classy.” Read the very next paragraph of that post. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2016, 7:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1563 "2016-06-19T07:28:00Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > Look, there really is a personal quality called “class,” which is admirable and worth having. Vulgarity is lack of class. Persons of practically any social background can have some class if they really try… Say what??? Since when have you crossed over to the dark side and become a _Republican_!? > [@BrainGlutton](#): > > …The Donald has never in his life tried. We all know people like him, people who are the exact opposite of what you think when you hear the word “classy.” I thought things like style and class were anathema to people of your ideology. You know, like **Derleth** said: “classist”, and all that crap. Heaven forbid anybody should have anything like class, manners or style these days. They harken back to…wait for it…the 50s! And even worse, they’re the product of privilege and a means of keeping the lower classes in their place. Or something. I mean, isn’t that why everybody dresses like shit and blasts vulgar music these days? You’d better recant immediately or they’re going to take away your lib card and assail your worthiness as a human being. The forces of political correctness have been known to turn on other liberals for far less egregious offenses than this. But I digress… Anyway, The Donald has never gone in for social niceties or had any desire to participate in the world of socialites. This was one of the main areas of conflict between him and Ivana, who very much desired to live the life of the socialite. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2016, 12:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1564 "2016-06-19T12:51:28Z")
> [@tomndebb](#): > > They do, however, require the involvement, in some way, of a contract. What contract has Trump siggned to run for president? I should mention this another oddly specific and incorrect factoid. Check out Texas for example : [http://codes.findlaw.com/tx/penal-code/penal-sect-32-43.html](http://codes.findlaw.com/tx/penal-code/penal-sect-32-43.html) No mention of a contract. Now I don’t see how this would apply to Trump before the convention but once he’s the nominee I guess you could stretch it to fit. I never really intended to apply it though, I was mostly just disagreeing with "all bribes are to government officials ". ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2016, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1565 "2016-06-19T14:17:24Z")
Perhaps hoping to bolster his foreign policy credentials, Donald Trump will soon be traveling to Scotland. No plans to meet with U.K. P.M. David Cameron with whom Trump says he’s “not going to have a very good relationship”. His trip is to the Trump Turnberry Resort, to celebrate the re-opening of the Ailsa golf course. ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2016, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1566 "2016-06-19T19:10:27Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Say what??? Since when have you crossed over to the dark side and become a _Republican_!? > > I thought things like style and class were anathema to people of your ideology. You know, like **Derleth** said: “classist”, and all that crap. Heaven forbid anybody should have anything like class, manners or style these days. They harken back to…wait for it…the 50s! And even worse, they’re the product of privilege and a means of keeping the lower classes in their place. Or something. > > I mean, isn’t that why everybody dresses like shit and blasts vulgar music these days? You’d better recant immediately or they’re going to take away your lib card and assail your worthiness as a human being. The forces of political correctness have been known to turn on other liberals for far less egregious offenses than this. > > But I digress… > > Anyway, The Donald has never gone in for social niceties or had any desire to participate in the world of socialites. This was one of the main areas of conflict between him and Ivana, who very much desired to live the life of the socialite. Since when has being a Republican had anything to do with being classy? Are you claiming Warren Harding had more class than FDR? Or Nixon was classier than JFK? For that matter, Joe Hill had a hell of a lot more class than George Pullman. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2016, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1567 "2016-06-19T19:58:45Z")
> [@Johnny\_Ace](#): > > Anybody else happen to notice the name near the bottom of that story in the photostat? > > > [@](#): > > > > But Donald Baron, a vice president of the Trump firm, said Thursday that the company decided not to save the panels… > > I guess John has a brother… You have a SCOOP there, my friend! (I wonder when The Donald _first_ invented a ‘spokesman’ for himself…) ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c57346/32.png) [@Little\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Pig)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2016, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1568 "2016-06-19T20:30:08Z")
Here is the latest from Fearless Leader. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2016, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1569 "2016-06-19T21:22:44Z")
> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#): > > Since when has being a Republican had anything to do with being classy? > > Are you claiming Warren Harding had more class than FDR? Or Nixon was classier than JFK? > > For that matter, Joe Hill had a hell of a lot more class than George Pullman. [The 50s/early 60s.](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/91/Stout-MINJ-1.jpg) [Liberals take over.](http://shoespost.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/article-2700621-1FD9071100000578-455_634x829.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2016, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1570 "2016-06-19T21:34:32Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > [The 50s/early 60s.](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/91/Stout-MINJ-1.jpg) > > [Liberals take over.](http://shoespost.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/article-2700621-1FD9071100000578-455_634x829.jpg) [Conservatives love their guns.](http://cdn0.wideopenspaces.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/rednecks-with-guns.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2016, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1571 "2016-06-19T22:56:16Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > [The 50s/early 60s.](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/91/Stout-MINJ-1.jpg) > > [Liberals take over.](http://shoespost.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/article-2700621-1FD9071100000578-455_634x829.jpg) You are really struggling, here. You think that comparing an advertisement for rich people’s clothing against a paparazzi snapshot of a couple who are out shopping makes some serious case for how “classy” a period is? (And if you think that the ad demonstrates how people really looked in the “conservative” era, you would seem to have deliberately warped your memory to recall something that never really occurred. Clothing styles have relaxed over the years, (although I no longer see women in housecoats with their hair up in curlers at the grocery store the way I did in the '50s and '60s), but that relaxation has not harmed anyone.) Your desire for a Borg-like conformity is not “classy,” it is simply silly. ---
**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1572 "2016-06-20T01:02:26Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > [The 50s/early 60s.](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/91/Stout-MINJ-1.jpg) > > [Liberals take over.](http://shoespost.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/article-2700621-1FD9071100000578-455_634x829.jpg) I really have to thank you for proving my point in the bluntest possible fashion. You’re taking an aspirational image and juxtaposing it with a real one. You’re saying, implicitly, that your “classy” lifestyle was a dream and that “vulgarity” is reality, that the latter is attainable and the former is not. That’s actually farther than I went; I merely said that the “classy”/“vulgar” line represented an economic class divide, originally and unconsciously if not in denotational modern usage. In short, I said that the line was partially drawn by the difference between being rich and being poor. You imply that the line is drawn between fantasy and reality. Most people present their simulacra at bit more subtly than that. You, OTOH, take Baudrillard and shove glossy magazines down his throat. ---
**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1573 "2016-06-20T01:20:56Z")
It doesn’t help that his Trashy Liberals illustration is two of the most beautiful people walking the planet. Wouldn’t it be a nightmare if everyone looked like Joe Mangianello and Sofia Vergara? ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1574 "2016-06-20T01:32:40Z")
> [@Merneith](#): > > It doesn’t help that his Trashy Liberals illustration is two of the most beautiful people walking the planet. Wouldn’t it be a nightmare if everyone looked like Joe Mangianello and Sofia Vergara? Simply horrific! ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1575 "2016-06-20T03:32:42Z")
> Hillary has a 100%-0% advertising spending edge in battleground states. In 2012, it was Obama 54%, Romney 46%. Trump has no campaign. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1576 "2016-06-20T03:42:43Z")
> [@raventhief](#): > > Simply horrific! And be the only homely guy left? Actually, think that might be pretty cool. ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1577 "2016-06-20T13:46:32Z")
Trump parts ways with his campaign manager. This is seriously the worst campaign in modern history . > **[Donald Trump Fires Corey Lewandowski, His Campaign Manager (Published 2016)](https://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/21/us/politics/corey-lewandowski-donald-trump.html?smid=fb-nytpolitics&smtyp=cur&referer=http:%2F%2Fm.facebook.com)** > > The dismissal on Monday came amid concerns from allies and donors about Mr. Trump’s preparedness for the rigors and expenses of a general election. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1578 "2016-06-20T14:09:04Z")
> [@dalej42](#): > > Trump parts ways with his campaign manager. This is seriously the worst campaign in modern history . > > [http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/06/21/us/politics/corey-lewandowski-donald-trump.html?smid=fb-nytpolitics&smtyp=cur&referer=http://m.facebook.com](http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/06/21/us/politics/corey-lewandowski-donald-trump.html?smid=fb-nytpolitics&smtyp=cur&referer=http://m.facebook.com) That’s not as big a deal as it sounds. Lewandowski has been the campaign manager in name only since Manafort was brought in back in March. > [@](#): > > The second phase of the campaign began when Trump’s hiring and promotion shifted from the non-traditional to more established consultants. In March 2016, as the potential for a contested convention increased, Trump hired Paul Manafort—who has worked in presidential politics since the 1976 Republican convention—as his convention manager.[3] Trump also promoted Michael Glassner, a longtime aide to former U.S. Sen. Bob Dole (R-Kan.), to deputy campaign manager.[4] By the New York primary elections on April 19, Manafort had taken on an expanded role in the campaign. > **[Donald Trump presidential campaign key staff and advisors, 2016](https://ballotpedia.org/Donald_Trump_presidential_campaign_key_staff_and_advisors,_2016)** > > Ballotpedia: The Encyclopedia of American Politics ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1579 "2016-06-20T14:20:37Z")
How will Lewandowski push around reporters if he doesn’t have an official title with the Trump “campaign”? The man needs a new hobby! ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1580 "2016-06-20T14:22:23Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > That’s not as big a deal as it sounds. Lewandowski has been the campaign manager in name only since Manafort was brought in back in March. Win-Win. Trump’s campaign can look dysfunctional and the guy actually driving the clown car off a cliff can stay behind the wheel. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901.md?page=78) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901.md?page=80)