# Donald Trump's 2016 General Election Campaign

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [May 4, 2016, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901 "2016-05-04T02:37:34Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2016, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1641 "2016-06-21T12:16:56Z")

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> [@Northern\_Piper](#):
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> I can’t believe no-one has said this:
> 
> [Trump to Lewandoski: “Corey, you’re fired!”](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jun/20/donald-trump-campaign-manager-corey-lewandowski-out)
> 
> 'Cause everyone know that’s how you deal with someone you fire, right? Just can’t trust them so you just have to call in security. Look, it’s the way things work in business!
> 
> And of course, you don’t let the peons in your organization know what’s going on:
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> And the blood-letting didn’t stop there:

Does this now mean the campaign only has 28 people on staff?

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2016, 12:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1642 "2016-06-21T12:29:21Z")

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> [@Derleth](#):
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> The Trump Campaign is Game of Thrones with fewer nude scenes?

Please, let us not associate the Trump Campaign with nudity of any type. :eek:

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2016, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1643 "2016-06-21T12:36:54Z")

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> [@Northern\_Piper](#):
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> Please, let us not associate the Trump Campaign with nudity of any type. :eek:

Frankly, Ivanka has a terrific body, terrific body. Millions of men would love to sleep with her, believe me. And some women too in liberal circles. Just an outstanding body.

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2016, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1644 "2016-06-21T13:08:46Z")

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Good article on how the Trump campaign is in total disarray. No money , no staff, just Donald and his Twitter account. This election could be a Democratic landslide with Trump only winning the brightest red states.

> **[There Is No Donald Trump Campaign](https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2016/06/donald-trumps-invisible-campaign.html)**
>
> As of Monday morning, the Trump campaign doesn’t have a manager. “The Donald J. Trump Campaign for President, which has set a historic record in the...

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2016, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1645 "2016-06-21T13:08:51Z")

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Seems to me that the delegates have plenty of reason to dump Trump at the convention. He’s not even fundraising! This is insane.

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2016, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1646 "2016-06-21T13:16:05Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> Seems to me that the delegates have plenty of reason to dump Trump at the convention. He’s not even fundraising! This is insane.

Even if they do, whomever gets the nomination will be getting a very late start.

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2016, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1647 "2016-06-21T13:20:38Z")

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True, but they also won’t have been attacked by the other side yet.

It’s almost like replacing one of the fighters in a boxing match in the 9th round. Clinton’s bloodied, with historically awful disapproval ratings. Trump is worse, but what if we pulled him for someone with positive approval ratings with the general electorate?

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2016, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1648 "2016-06-21T13:24:03Z")

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> [@CarnalK](#):
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> Or maybe those are “in kind” contributions. Remember the story earlier about how Hillary was drawing a $250k salary from the campaign?  
> [http://freebeacon.com/politics/hillary-paid-herself-250000-from-campaign-funds/](http://freebeacon.com/politics/hillary-paid-herself-250000-from-campaign-funds/)
> 
> So don’t be too sure that you’ve found a smoking gun here.

You may be right.

On the other hand, he genuinely paid $35,000 for “Web Advertising” to “Draper Sterling”.

So there’s that.

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**Author:** ![Maastricht](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e57/32.png) [@Maastricht](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maastricht)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2016, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1649 "2016-06-21T13:26:34Z")

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The book Freakonomics had a chapter on the moneymaking playbook from KKK head David Duke. He had this list of tens of thousands of KKK symphatisants. He sold the list to whomever was buying. But he also sent begging letters, twice, to the people on the list. Supposedly because the Gub’ment had taken his house away to harass him. In reality, it was to finance his gambling addiction. Maybe Trump is playing a similar game on the side.

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**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2016, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1650 "2016-06-21T13:27:55Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> True, but they also won’t have been attacked by the other side yet.
> 
> It’s almost like replacing one of the fighters in a boxing match in the 9th round. Clinton’s bloodied, with historically awful disapproval ratings. Trump is worse, but what if we pulled him for someone with positive approval ratings with the general electorate?

Where have you Republicans been hiding this paragon?

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2016, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1651 "2016-06-21T13:28:21Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> This is insane.

So is the idea of changing the rules of the convention specifically to ice out an elected nominee. Calling it a “conscience clause” doesn’t change the fact that the GOP will be signalling to their base that their votes are literally meaningless.

The only way that the GOP comes out of this in anything resembling one piece is to convince Trump that he doesn’t actually want to be President and to step down during the convention.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2016, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1652 "2016-06-21T13:28:55Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> True, but they also won’t have been attacked by the other side yet.
> 
> It’s almost like replacing one of the fighters in a boxing match in the 9th round. Clinton’s bloodied, with historically awful disapproval ratings. Trump is worse, but what if we pulled him for someone with positive approval ratings with the general electorate?

Then that someone will get savaged from both sides, as disgruntled Trumpistes (who are not exactly shy, retiring types) come out in force to attack him, the Clinton campaign adjusts with little effort and the Republican establishment expend all their efforts trying to hold their party together rather than presenting a unified front. Not so much a boxing match as a WWF fight with two against one, and the two armed with folding chairs.

_Please_, Mr Priebus, please don’t throw us into that briar patch…

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2016, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1653 "2016-06-21T13:34:48Z")

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> [@Maastricht](#):
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> Maybe Trump is playing a similar game on the side.

It’s the same game he’s been playing his entire career - hire the lowest bidder to run everything, siphon as much money as possible into his personal accounts, and use the company to pay his personal expenses.

It’s pretty telling that the payroll he’s giving himself amounts to only about $2500 a week. You’d think someone as rich as he claims to be wouldn’t be interested in such a comparatively paltry payout.

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**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2016, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1654 "2016-06-21T14:00:58Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> Trump is worse, but what if we pulled him for someone with positive approval ratings with the general electorate?

Then you’ll lose the votes of millions of disgruntled Trump supporters who spent the last ten months talking about how the RNC is rigging the process against Trump and now saw the nomination stolen from someone with a clear majority of votes and well over the 1,237 delegate mark.

Better hope your new guy is REAL popular with everyone else. He’s gonna need it.

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2016, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1655 "2016-06-21T14:14:14Z")

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> [@Derleth](#):
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> The Trump Campaign is Game of Thrones with fewer nude scenes?

Og be praised.

But as mentioned Ivanka, and don’t forget Melania who we HAVE seen naked, could be quite popular at that…

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2016, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1656 "2016-06-21T14:51:01Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> It’s the same game he’s been playing his entire career - hire the lowest bidder to run everything, siphon as much money as possible into his personal accounts, and use the company to pay his personal expenses.

You forgot the last step: stiff the contractor on what he owes them.

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2016, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1657 "2016-06-21T15:55:47Z")

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Even the sometimes infuriatingly cautious and even-handed NPR has an [article](http://www.npr.org/2016/06/21/482895092/donald-trumps-problems-are-much-deeper-than-a-campaign-manager?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=npr&utm_term=nprnews&utm_content=20160621) today running down all the problems with Trump’s campaign. Some of the good bits:

> [@Unusually Forceful NPR Guy](#):
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> But here’s the reality: Blame the campaign manager all you want, he’s not really the problem. Trump’s problems go well beyond a campaign manager and straight to him. Problems in a campaign usually stem from the top, and that’s especially true in this one.
> 
> …Trump has myriad problems, including a lack of policy depth, a dereliction of facts and an overall message — especially when he talks about race and identity — that has offended lots of voters he didn’t have to worry about in a nearly all-white Republican primary.
> 
> \<snip\>
> 
> [Trump’s image] has gotten worse in the past month following (1) his inflammatory comments that the presiding judge in the Trump University fraud case was biased because of his Mexican heritage and (2) the veterans fundraiser imbroglio. Trump donated $1 million only after the Washington Post reported there was no evidence he had done so as promised.
> 
> \<snip\>
> 
> Never before has the sitting speaker of the House called his party’s presumptive nominee’s comments “racist” (as Paul Ryan did with Trump’s comments on the Trump U judge).
> 
> \<snip\>
> 
> Trump seems to have an internal conflict choosing which self he wants to be.
> 
> \<snip\>
> 
> You just never know which Trump you’re going to get — and both have their flaws.
> 
> \<snip\>
> 
> A CBS/New York Times poll found that 41 percent said they thought Clinton had done something illegal with her emails and private server setup in her home. Yet Trump was pulling in only 37 percent against Clinton’s 43 percent in a head-to-head matchup. That means Trump isn’t even getting all of the people who thought Clinton had done something illegal.
> 
> \<snip\>
> 
> If Trump continues to be critical of fellow Republicans, however, it’s possible there could be at least a protest vote on the floor of the convention. Sure, Trump would still be the nominee, but the last thing the party wants is a demonstration of disunity shown live on national television months before voting.
> 
> Either way, Trump has a lot of work to do — and it starts with himself.

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**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2016, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1658 "2016-06-21T16:14:10Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> Trump is worse, but what if we pulled him for someone with positive approval ratings with the general electorate?

Who?

Here are all the republicans I could find at [HuffPost Pollster](http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster) with measured favorability.

```auto

Name Favorable	Unfavorable	Net
Boehner 22 51 -29
Bush 31 54 -23
Carson 36 45 -9
Christie	30 48 -18
Cruz 32 57 -25
Fiorina 25 39 -14
Graham 16 42 -26
Huckabee	28 45 -17
Jindal 17 36 -19
Kasich 37 38 -1
McConnell	17 39 -22
Pataki 15 38 -23
Paul 28 44 -16
Perry 24 43 -19
Romney 39 48 -9
Rubio 35 46 -11
Ryan 36 38 -2
Santorum	20 46 -26
Walker 23 37 -14

```

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2016, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1659 "2016-06-21T16:17:30Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Trump’s eldest daugher suspected Caputo of being aligned with Tyrion Lannister. Really, he’s lucky to get out alive.

His hard-won experience will serve him well, should he go to work for Littlefinger.

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2016, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1660 "2016-06-21T16:33:14Z")

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> [@Lance\_Turbo](#):
>
> Who?
> 
> Here are all the republicans I could find at [HuffPost Pollster](http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster) with measured favorability.
> 
> ```auto
> 
> Name Favorable	Unfavorable	Net
> Boehner 22 51 -29
> Bush 31 54 -23
> Carson 36 45 -9
> Christie	30 48 -18
> Cruz 32 57 -25
> Fiorina 25 39 -14
> Graham 16 42 -26
> Huckabee	28 45 -17
> Jindal 17 36 -19
> Kasich 37 38 -1
> McConnell	17 39 -22
> Pataki 15 38 -23
> Paul 28 44 -16
> Perry 24 43 -19
> Romney 39 48 -9
> Rubio 35 46 -11
> Ryan 36 38 -2
> Santorum	20 46 -26
> Walker 23 37 -14
> 
> ```

Kasich! He’s practically, almost, likeable!

I have to give a shout out to our friend adaher. These are trying times for Republicans, and he seems to be taking his licks with equanimity and a semblance of sanity.

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