# Donald Trump's 2016 General Election Campaign **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [May 4, 2016, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901 "2016-05-04T02:37:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 86
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2016, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1701 "2016-06-21T21:21:49Z")
Oh I am confident it’s juicy, Corry El, just not sure it’ll be Trump himself holding the bag. > [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Further research into “Draper Sterling” shows that there have already been fraud charges filed against them with the FEC for a campaign for the Missouri Governorship. [Interesting details in this story](http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2016/06/21/3790715/weird-story-behind-trump-campaigns-35000-payment-draper-sterling-advertising/). Smapti posted this above. “Fraud charges filed” is a little grandiose. Some university professor filed a complaint. > [@asahi](#): > > Trump’s campaign paying off Trump companies. > > [Donald Trump's Campaign Paid Trump Companies More Than $1 Million In May | HuffPost Latest News](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-campaign-payments_us_5768a69ee4b0853f8bf1fe2d) This is a rehash of another link Smapti posted above. As I said, think back to March when Hillary was accused of taking a $250k salary from her campaign. ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2016, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1702 "2016-06-21T21:23:59Z")
> [@Lok](#): > > You are assuming that he is capable of recognizing the possibility that he \* might\* lose in November. All evidence seems to point to him being a massive narcissist, possibly not even recognizing that other people are even real. It also assumes that being seen as a quitter is any better to Trump than being seen as a loser, especially when he can blame the establishment for a loss, and kind of have a point. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2016, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1703 "2016-06-21T21:29:44Z")
Quitters _are_ losers, **Leaper**! Now, drop and give me twenty, then five more laps and hit the showers! ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2016, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1704 "2016-06-21T21:35:05Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > You can see the principals LinkedIn pages and none of them mention “Draper Sterling”. > > [https://www.linkedin.com/in/paul-holzer-7746078b](https://www.linkedin.com/in/paul-holzer-7746078b) > [https://www.linkedin.com/in/jon-adkins-06bb63](https://www.linkedin.com/in/jon-adkins-06bb63) > [https://www.linkedin.com/in/adam-mclain-307830110](https://www.linkedin.com/in/adam-mclain-307830110) The first two come up “Profile not found”. The third you need to be logged in to see. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2016, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1705 "2016-06-21T21:37:46Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > You can see the principals LinkedIn pages and none of them mention “Draper Sterling”. > > [https://www.linkedin.com/in/paul-holzer-7746078b](https://www.linkedin.com/in/paul-holzer-7746078b) > [https://www.linkedin.com/in/jon-adkins-06bb63](https://www.linkedin.com/in/jon-adkins-06bb63) > [https://www.linkedin.com/in/adam-mclain-307830110](https://www.linkedin.com/in/adam-mclain-307830110) Fishy stuff on the xenotherapeutics website: PAUL HOLZER, **MD1, MBA2** , MME3 President | Founder Chief Executive Officer Paul Holzer served as a US Navy SEAL Officer for 10 years and attained the rank of Lieutenant Commander. While serving overseas, he witnessed the horrific effects of severe burns and other combat injuries, fostering an interest in improving the availability of effective, life saving medical devices. This interest was developed through his master’s training as a Mechanical Engineer at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology3 and his experience a Paramedic/EMT. He applied these skills as a Research Fellow at the Massachusetts General Hospital (MGH) investigating skin graft and vascularized allograft solutions Transplantation Biology Research Center (TBRC). He **is simultaneously completing** his MD curriculum at Dartmouth’s Geisel School of Medicine1 and his MBA, with an emphasis in Economics, at Southern New Hampshire University2. JON ADKINS, **MBA1** Vice President | Founder Director of Business Development Jon Adkins has spent more than 15 years in medical device sales, management and consulting with top corporations including Smith & Nephew, Depuy Synthes, and Zimmer. In this role, he managed the lines of business involving implantable medical and biologic devices, including those used in orthopedic joint reconstruction and trauma surgeries. He has learned both the business of translational medicine as well as its application to the operating room and seized the opportunity to pursue his passion for medical device implementation while founding XenoTherapeutics Inc. He **is finishing** his MBA in Healthcare Management at Southern New Hampshire University1. (Emphasis mine) You don’t get to list yourself as MD and/or MBA if you haven’t actually earned those degrees yet. Not even sure that’s legal. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2016, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1706 "2016-06-21T21:48:28Z")
Book him, Danno. 3 counts of lying on your LinkedIn profile. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2016, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1707 "2016-06-21T21:50:45Z")
A Navy SEAL, eh? Well, that means it must be legit. _No-one_ ever falsely claims to be a SEAL. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2016, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1708 "2016-06-21T21:53:37Z")
[Trump wonders if Hillary is really a Christian.](http://wonkette.com/603244/donald-trump-just-wondering-if-hillary-is-a-muslim-or-what-you-know-like-her-girlfriend-maybe#V1EeXTcGCbDsFFh5.99) Maybe she’s a not-so-secret Moozlim just like Barack Hussein Obama and Hillary’s girlfriend. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2016, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1709 "2016-06-21T21:54:17Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > Book him, Danno. 3 counts of lying on your LinkedIn profile. That’s from their corporate [website](http://xenotherapeutics.org/our-team/), not linkedin. The final person listed here (KRYSTA MOULTON, MSA) also does not have the degree that she lists. ---
**Author:** ![Corry\_El](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecae2f/32.png) [@Corry\_El](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Corry_El)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2016, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1710 "2016-06-21T22:00:14Z")
> [@Leaper](#): > > It also assumes that being seen as a quitter is any better to Trump than being seen as a loser, especially when he can blame the establishment for a loss, and kind of have a point. I agree. And I think people might overdue how special Trump’s mental state is compared to any other potential candidate. It’s worrisome to me in terms of voting for the guy for president, which I won’t. However it’s very possible IMO he has a basically realistic view of the election, which is an uphill battle for him but not impossible (anyone thinking Hillary _can’t_ lose is not being realistic IMO). Lots of candidates for lots of offices start out the general election unlikely to win, including lots of Democrats in states/districts where the GOP has an advantage. It’s true many of them are running for loyalty to a party (and for their own future benefit by displaying it) which doesn’t apply to Trump. But still, being down in polls only as much as Trump is this far out is not a rational reason to quit, assuming he’s rational. And he could also lose narrowly enough to hope to remain a force in the GOP which you can never do by quitting. ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Lowry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Sam\_Lowry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Lowry)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2016, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1711 "2016-06-21T22:02:10Z")
Haven’t seen anyone else post this: [Michele Bachmann to advise Trump on evangelical issues](http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/284313-michele-bachmann-to-advise-trump-on-evangelical-issues). It sounds like a joke but it’s apparently not. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2016, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1712 "2016-06-21T22:06:54Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > A Navy SEAL, eh? Well, that means it must be legit. _No-one_ ever falsely claims to be a SEAL. Well if he’s a liar, he seems to have put in a lot more leg work than the average fake SEAL. [https://geiselmed.dartmouth.edu/news/2015/paul-holzer-a-long-winding-road-to-medicine/](https://geiselmed.dartmouth.edu/news/2015/paul-holzer-a-long-winding-road-to-medicine/) Which was linked from this article: [Here’s the Guy Behind Trump’s Weird ‘Mad Men’ Connection](http://fortune.com/2016/06/21/trump-mad-men/) > [@](#): > > “Part of the agreement with any client is that you sign a non-disclosure agreement, so I won’t discuss any specific work done for any specific client,” says Holzer, who also is a current student at Dartmouth Medical School. “Most people would say full-time is 40 hours, but every waking hour for me is a workday. So I’m at XenoTherapeutics full-time, at Dartmouth full-time and, on the side, I’ve got another way to pay the bills—since being a student and running a small nonprofit aren’t very lucrative. The Wright Brothers built bikes; I build spreadsheets.” > > Holzer also wouldn’t rule out that Draper Sterling won’t appear on future FEC documents, saying “success begets success.” He does stress, however, that there was “nothing untoward” about the Draper Sterling work, despite some published speculation that it was linked to yesterday’s firing of Trump campaign manager Corey Lewandowski (who lives near Jon Adkins in New Hampshire). “I think it was just some coincidental timing that made this interesting. . .people will be disappointed when they find out the facts.” ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2016, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1713 "2016-06-21T22:08:47Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > You can see the principals LinkedIn pages and none of them mention “Draper Sterling”. > > [https://www.linkedin.com/in/paul-holzer-7746078b](https://www.linkedin.com/in/paul-holzer-7746078b) > [https://www.linkedin.com/in/jon-adkins-06bb63](https://www.linkedin.com/in/jon-adkins-06bb63) > [https://www.linkedin.com/in/adam-mclain-307830110](https://www.linkedin.com/in/adam-mclain-307830110) The first two of those have been rendered inactive. Adam McClain’s is still up at the moment, tho. And no, there’s no mention of Draper Sterling on that page. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2016, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1714 "2016-06-21T22:10:45Z")
Does anyone else hear “xenotherapeutics” and think about plants craving electrolytes? ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2016, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1715 "2016-06-21T22:14:00Z")
No, I think about deriving some kind of extract from Aliens. ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2016, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1716 "2016-06-21T22:17:24Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > [Trump wonders if Hillary is really a Christian.](http://wonkette.com/603244/donald-trump-just-wondering-if-hillary-is-a-muslim-or-what-you-know-like-her-girlfriend-maybe#V1EeXTcGCbDsFFh5.99) > > Maybe she’s a not-so-secret Moozlim just like Barack Hussein Obama and Hillary’s girlfriend. If you can’t trust a Biblical scholar like Trump on this question, who can you trust? ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2016, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1717 "2016-06-21T22:32:36Z")
Go away, batin’. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2016, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1718 "2016-06-21T22:36:24Z")
Xenotherapeutics is people!!! ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2016, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1719 "2016-06-21T22:39:49Z")
In other news, [a woman has filed a lawsuit claiming Trump raped her when she was 13.](http://www.rawstory.com/2016/06/donald-trump-accused-of-raping-13-year-old-in-federal-lawsuit/) ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2016, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1720 "2016-06-21T22:43:31Z")
I saw that too, but it sounds too outlandish. I’m not real familiar with RawStory, but it looks like they’re the Left’s answer to World Net Daily. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901.md?page=85) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901.md?page=87)