# Donald Trump's 2016 General Election Campaign

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [May 4, 2016, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901 "2016-05-04T02:37:34Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2016, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1781 "2016-06-22T19:19:18Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> Trump’s been trying to bring his clothing line back here from China since 2011.  
> He’s promising to bring back millions of jobs but he can’t even manage a few hundred?

He said on ABC News last night that he has to have his “Make America Great Again” hats made in China because he can’t find a company in the US to make them. That’s such an obvious lie.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2016, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1782 "2016-06-22T19:20:42Z")

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> [@Bayard](#):
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> Yeah, exactly. Blaming Clinton for Iran’s dominance is almost as stupid as blaming her for Islam.
> 
> Is Trump reading this speech or just giving us another of his famous improv routines?

I read that he was using a dreaded teleprompter.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2016, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1783 "2016-06-22T19:57:54Z")

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> [@jsgoddess](#):
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> “Thanks to Hillary Clinton, Iran is now the dominant Islamic power in the Middle East, and on the road to nuclear weapons.”  
> This is the quote [from Politico](http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/transcript-trump-speech-on-the-stakes-of-the-election-224654).

As you mentioned earlier, she really is amazing! Trump makes the case that she is not just amazing, but, quite possibly, _omnipotent_:

> [@](#):
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> Hillary Clinton gave China millions of our best jobs, and effectively let China completely rebuild itself.
> 
> Thanks to Hillary Clinton, Iran is now the dominant Islamic power in the Middle East
> 
> Inner cities, which have been horribly abused by Hillary Clinton and the Democrat Party, will finally be rebuilt.

…and so on. WOW! Hillary Clinton has not only been holding down full-time jobs (Senator, Secretary of State), but she has exercised ABSOLUTE POWER over our relations with China, the Middle East, and our inner cities! This is a woman whose managerial skills have to be nearly godlike!

The Presidency would be a step _down_ for her! She’ll handle it without breaking a sweat!

If I hadn’t been convinced before, Trump has succeeded in convincing me now: Hillary Clinton would make a _great_ President!

> [@Steve\_MB](#):
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> Basically, it seems to boil down to two talking points:
> 
> 1. I’m a genius because I made lots of money.
> 2. Hillary is a crook because she made lots of money.

> [@running\_coach](#):
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> Trump’s been trying to bring his clothing line back here from China since 2011.  
> He’s promising to bring back millions of jobs but he can’t even manage a few hundred?

There are two perfect anti-Trump ads, right there. (Each makes an excellent point.)

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2016, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1784 "2016-06-22T20:05:09Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> He said on ABC News last night that he has to have his “Make America Great Again” hats made in China because he can’t find a company in the US to make them. That’s such an obvious lie.

I understood his campaign swag _is_ made in the U.S.  
His regular clothing and accessories line is made overseas in several countries.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2016, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1785 "2016-06-22T20:08:50Z")

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> [@Fiveyearlurker](#):
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> And, for the third time, Cetrulo appears to be qualified to found a company like Xenotherapeutics, but he didn’t. It was founded by two completely unqualified guys who happen to, in their spare time, also run a completely sketchy advertising firm?

_And_ a coffee shop.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2016, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1786 "2016-06-22T20:09:40Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> I understood his campaign swag _is_ made in the U.S.  
> His regular clothing and accessories line is made overseas in several countries.

No, they specifically mentioned his campaign hats.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2016, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1787 "2016-06-22T20:14:48Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> An obviously false charge allows the listener to say “Well, look, all these false charges, must be a campaign of disinformation based on lies!”.

Granted, most of the harm that’s been done to the Trump campaign is based on lies. The problem for Trump is that this has consisted of videos of him telling them.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2016, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1788 "2016-06-22T20:21:27Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> No, they specifically mentioned his campaign hats.

As much as I hate defending the Orange-American:  
[Snopes says nope.](http://www.snopes.com/donald-trump-hat-china/)  
[Inside the Southern California factory that makes the Donald Trump hats](http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-pol-ca-trump-hats-cali-fame-carson-20151124-story.html)

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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2016, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1789 "2016-06-22T20:21:55Z")

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> [@Steve\_MB](#):
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> Basically, it seems to boil down to two talking points:
> 
> 1. I’m a genius because I made lots of money.
> 2. Hillary is a crook because she made lots of money.

Also

1. I’m smart for giving Hillary money
2. She is evil for taking my money.

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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2016, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1790 "2016-06-22T20:23:36Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Its alternative medicine. A bit like the homeopathic politics Trump is practicing.

Please don’t insult homeopathy unnecessarily. Homeopathic medicines are not laced with shit. Trump’s politics is.

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2016, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1791 "2016-06-22T20:32:02Z")

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> As you mentioned earlier, she really is amazing! Trump makes the case that she is not just amazing, but, quite possibly, _omnipotent_:
> 
> > [@](#):
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> > Hillary Clinton gave China millions of our best jobs, and effectively let China completely rebuild itself.
> > 
> > Thanks to Hillary Clinton, Iran is now the dominant Islamic power in the Middle East
> > 
> > Inner cities, which have been horribly abused by Hillary Clinton and the Democrat Party, will finally be rebuilt.
> 
> …and so on. WOW! Hillary Clinton has not only been holding down full-time jobs (Senator, Secretary of State), but she has exercised ABSOLUTE POWER over our relations with China, the Middle East, and our inner cities! This is a woman whose managerial skills have to be nearly godlike!

It’s like a new Chuck Norris-esque game: Hillary Clinton allowed twisters to touch down in red states. A coincidence? – Thanks to Hillary Clinton your psoriasis is the worst its ever been!

Hillary Clinton, the most interesting candidate in the world. Stay partisan, my friends.

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**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2016, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1792 "2016-06-22T21:04:49Z")

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I heard Hillary Clinton can wipe servers clean with her mind!

Hillary Clinton was in a foreign country. She gave money to a beggar in the street and the country’s economy collapsed!

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2016, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1793 "2016-06-22T21:09:14Z")

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> [@Tangent](#):
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> I heard Hillary Clinton can wipe servers clean with her mind!

I can do that too. Or at least I can erase whatever file I really really need.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2016, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1794 "2016-06-22T21:40:25Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> As much as I hate defending the Orange-American:  
> [Snopes says nope.](http://www.snopes.com/donald-trump-hat-china/)  
> [Inside the Southern California factory that makes the Donald Trump hats](http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-pol-ca-trump-hats-cali-fame-carson-20151124-story.html)

Then why would Trump _himself_ say he searched high and low for a US company to make his hats, before settling for Chinese hats?

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2016, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1795 "2016-06-22T21:48:05Z")

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> [@jsgoddess](#):
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> I can do that too. Or at least I can erase whatever file I really really need.

I had a hard drive crash that cost me a file that immediately required 9 hours of recreation… and I have heard _nothing_ about Hillary’s whereabouts at that time. Sure she had a donor breakfast and a late night rally in the same city, but in the middle of the day, when my drive mysteriously crashed? She was “meeting with advisors.”

Yeah, right. I think we all know the truth here.

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**Author:** ![Nonsuch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nonsuch/32/2922_2.png) [@Nonsuch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nonsuch)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2016, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1796 "2016-06-22T21:50:36Z")

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Trump’s [getting good grades](http://www.vox.com/2016/6/22/12002926/trump-speech-clinton) for today’s [non-spittle-flecked speech](http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2016/06/donald_trump_s_speech_about_hillary_clinton_was_terrifyingly_effective.html).

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2016, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1797 "2016-06-22T21:51:04Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> Then why would Trump _himself_ say he searched high and low for a US company to make his hats, before settling for Chinese hats?

He was talking about his Trump brand that’s been around for some years. I didn’t hear the NBC interview mentioned so he may have slipped up (either misspoke or confessed).

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2016, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1798 "2016-06-22T21:56:44Z")

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This is what I found. He’s saying he gets them in the US, though it’s very slightly muddled:

> [@](#):
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> “Unfortunately my ties are made in China and I will say this, the hats – ‘Make America Great Again’ – I searched long and hard to find somebody that made the hats in this country,” Trump told ABC News’ David Muir in an interview at Trump Tower. “I pay a lot more money. It is a very hard thing and it’s because they devalue their currency.”

> **[Donald Trump Responds to Hillary Clinton’s Charges of Outsourcing His Products](https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trump-responds-hillary-clintons-charges-outsourcing-products/story?id=40020692)**
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> Trump sat down with ABC News' David Muir for an interview at Trump Tower.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2016, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1799 "2016-06-22T21:56:57Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> Then why would Trump _himself_ say he searched high and low for a US company to make his hats, before settling for Chinese hats?

Because he’s a total idiot, and actually has NO IDEA AT ALL where his campaign hats were made. He should have read the Snopes page. Oh, I forgot, Snopes is run by Godless liberals.

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2016, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1800 "2016-06-22T21:58:33Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> I had a hard drive crash that cost me a file that immediately required 9 hours of recreation…

Party at JohnT’s!

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