# Donald Trump's 2016 General Election Campaign

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [May 4, 2016, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901 "2016-05-04T02:37:34Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2016, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1801 "2016-06-22T22:00:37Z")

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😛

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**Author:** ![Maastricht](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e57/32.png) [@Maastricht](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maastricht)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2016, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1802 "2016-06-22T22:06:09Z")

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Is it me, or is Trump ditching his sexy blond hair color for a more statesmanlike white?

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2016, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1803 "2016-06-22T22:17:05Z")

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> [@Maastricht](#):
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> Is it me, or is Trump ditching his sexy blond hair color for a more statesmanlike white?

It’s winter on his hair’s home planet. That’s it’s seasonal coat.

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**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2016, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1804 "2016-06-22T22:20:27Z")

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> [@Nonsuch](#):
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> Trump’s [getting good grades](http://www.vox.com/2016/6/22/12002926/trump-speech-clinton) for today’s [non-spittle-flecked speech](http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2016/06/donald_trump_s_speech_about_hillary_clinton_was_terrifyingly_effective.html).

Yeah, but how much coverage, memory, and interest will it get generally compared to his earlier, uh, work? It’s kind of a catch-22, now that I think about it.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2016, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1805 "2016-06-22T23:11:06Z")

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Trump’s campaign currently sits at $1.3 million in assets, $45.7 million in debts.

If Trump holds true to form, he will personally enrich himself, and then stiff the creditors at the end of the run. If I were a supplier for hall rental, convention supplies, signs, printing, advertising, media, consulting etc. etc… I would consider him a VERY bad credit risk, and demand payment in advance for any product or service. I would not extend his campaign ANY credit whatsoever. He has a track record of putting small companies out of business by not paying his debts in full.

Very.  
Bad.  
Risk.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2016, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1806 "2016-06-22T23:24:14Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> Trump’s campaign currently sits at $1.3 million in assets, $45.7 million in debts.
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> If Trump holds true to form, he will personally enrich himself, and then stiff the creditors at the end of the run. If I were a supplier for hall rental, convention supplies, signs, printing, advertising, media, consulting etc. etc… I would consider him a VERY bad credit risk, and demand payment in advance for any product or service. I would not extend his campaign ANY credit whatsoever. He has a track record of putting small companies out of business by not paying his debts in full.
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> Very.  
> Bad.  
> Risk.

He’ll be the _best_ Bad Risk ever! The Risk will be YUUUUGE!

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2016, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1807 "2016-06-23T00:52:54Z")

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> [@Nonsuch](#):
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> Trump’s [getting good grades](http://www.vox.com/2016/6/22/12002926/trump-speech-clinton) for today’s [non-spittle-flecked speech](http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2016/06/donald_trump_s_speech_about_hillary_clinton_was_terrifyingly_effective.html).

It was equally as full of shit as usual, though.

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2016, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1808 "2016-06-23T01:15:29Z")

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> [@Johnny\_Ace](#):
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> It was equally as full of shit as usual, though.

If he doesn’t show up with his underwear on his head, he exceeds expectations and we get to hear how we’re going to see a new Trump. Let’s see how he does when he goes back to speaking without a script.

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2016, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1809 "2016-06-23T01:26:13Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> He has a track record of putting small companies out of business by not paying his debts in full.
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> Very.  
> Bad.  
> Risk.

You should get top men working on that.

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2016, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1810 "2016-06-23T03:16:00Z")

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> [@Nonsuch](#):
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> Trump’s [getting good grades](http://www.vox.com/2016/6/22/12002926/trump-speech-clinton) for today’s [non-spittle-flecked speech](http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2016/06/donald_trump_s_speech_about_hillary_clinton_was_terrifyingly_effective.html).

Uh oh.

It’s possible The Media has decided “gee, we’ve been so mean to him for a couple weeks now, I guess we should start talking about how cool he is.”

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**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2016, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1811 "2016-06-23T03:19:23Z")

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> [@Maastricht](#):
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> Is it me, or is Trump ditching his sexy blond hair color for a more statesmanlike white?

His makeup has lightened too. I guess the Cheeto Jesus tag got to him (or Ivanka).

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2016, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1812 "2016-06-23T04:00:40Z")

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> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#):
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> Uh oh.
> 
> It’s possible The Media has decided “gee, we’ve been so mean to him for a couple weeks now, I guess we should start talking about how cool he is.”

Nah, the horse race has to be maintained, but I do think that all the talk about how his campaign is not getting money is a blatant demand to Trump by the media to get the presidential money gravy train going soon (as in paid advertisements, there are no more freebies) or else.

Of course one can still notice how dismal the attempt at polishing the turd is when they said that he got good grades, to do that the reporters had to ignore the huuuuuge mendacity and pathological lies coming from Trump.

[http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/fact-check-trump-speech-clinton](http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/fact-check-trump-speech-clinton)

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> 7 Of The Biggest Fibs In Trump’s Speech Attacking ‘World-Class Liar’ Clinton

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2016, 10:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1813 "2016-06-23T10:39:26Z")

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The Trump scampaign [joins the ranks of penis enhancers and Nigerian princelings](https://www.the-newshub.com/us-politics/did-donald-trump-raise-2-million-from-spam):

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> On June 22, The Trump campaign bragged about raising $2 million from donors from “it’s first fundraising e-mail.” The volume of SPAM complaints on Twitter, and Alexa web traffic statistics, suggest the large haul may have come, at least in part, by sending SPAM. If so, it wouldn’t be the first time SPAM allegations have followed the Trump campaign…

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**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2016, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1814 "2016-06-23T15:44:52Z")

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> [@Steve\_MB](#):
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> Basically, it seems to boil down to two talking points:
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> 1. I’m a genius because I made lots of money.
> 2. Hillary is a crook because she made lots of money.

LOL! Nice capsule summary there.

> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#):
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> Uh oh.
> 
> It’s possible The Media has decided “gee, we’ve been so mean to him for a couple weeks now, I guess we should start talking about how cool he is.”

I would worry about that in a typical race where a Democrat was making a consistent bead on a three or four point win in the popular vote, translating to 300+ electoral votes. That’s sort of a boring outcome, so the temptation is clearly there to try to spin it into a tight horse race.

But I heard a pundit’s observation the other day that I think is fitting in this election: a narrative about how Drumpf is causing the GOP to immolate, and maybe even put its House majority in jeopardy, is a pretty juicy story–and more plausible than spinning it into a neck-and-neck race.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2016, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1815 "2016-06-23T18:13:24Z")

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For Trump’s VP pick, I"m gonna [suggest this guy.](http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/tenn-u-s-house-candidate-american-white-article-1.2683552)

He’s perfect. He longs for a time of “Ozzie and Harriet, Leave it to Beaver time when there were no break-ins; no violent crime; no mass immigration.”

What a great time it was. No break ins ever. No violent crime in the entire country.

Mr. Tyler has been inspired by Mr. Trump.

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> Tyler explicitly named Trump as an influence for his campaign message in a post on his web site, which has been taken down.
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> “Clearly we are in uncharted waters, in that there has never been a candidacy like this in modern political history. Of great significance, as well, is the reality of the Trump phenomenon and the manner in which he has loosened up the overall spectrum of political discourse.” Tyler wrote

Isn’t it great that Trump has “loosed up the spectrum of political discourse” so that overt racists now feel more comfortable expressing themselves?

TYLER FOR TRUMP VP!

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**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2016, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1816 "2016-06-23T18:45:59Z")

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Here is the best twitter essay on any topic that I have ever read. (Then again, the number of twitter essays I’ve read is probably in the low double digits.) Still, it’s good. First tweet: [INDENT][INDENT]So a lot of people don’t have much experience with real estate developers. Donald Trump is basically a walking cliche. I’ll explain. [/INDENT][/INDENT] The poster has worked with developers, banks and investors and has seen this movie many, many times. Trump is working from an old playbook, one he is overly familiar with. To me, this sort of analysis, grounded in Trump’s personal experiences, is more insightful than talk of character or psychology. Not that the latter is useless, but this is better.

Trump is a sales guy. As a real estate developer, he’s basically selling himself, and taking advantage of certain irrationalities baked into human nature which are only overcome with effort. I’m talking about the concept of [sunk](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunk_costs) [costs](http://www.lifehack.org/articles/communication/how-the-sunk-cost-fallacy-makes-you-act-stupid.html). If you don’t know about this concept, you should. Skip the political link and read the wiki and lifehacker links I’ve provided (but have not read).

If you do know about sunk costs, read about Trump at Storify:  
[https://storify.com/towittertoo/the-developer](https://storify.com/towittertoo/the-developer)  
ETA: If you want to question or discuss the general notion of sunk costs, please do it elsewhere. (Well worth its own thread.)

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2016, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1817 "2016-06-23T19:44:41Z")

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> [@Jack\_Batty](#):
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> It’s like a new Chuck Norris-esque game: Hillary Clinton allowed twisters to touch down in red states. A coincidence? – Thanks to Hillary Clinton your psoriasis is the worst its ever been!
> 
> Hillary Clinton, the most interesting candidate in the world. Stay partisan, my friends.

> [@Tangent](#):
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> I heard Hillary Clinton can wipe servers clean with her mind!
> 
> Hillary Clinton was in a foreign country. She gave money to a beggar in the street and the country’s economy collapsed!

Time for an update to this familiar meme:

[![](http://i548.photobucket.com/albums/ii344/PonsonbyLow/Because%20Obama%20HILLARY%20TPM%20%20400_zps9puvh069.jpg) ](http://i548.photobucket.com/albums/ii344/PonsonbyLow/Because%20Obama%20HILLARY%20TPM%20%20400_zps9puvh069.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2016, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1818 "2016-06-23T20:08:36Z")

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> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#):
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> Here is the best twitter essay on any topic that I have ever read. (Then again, the number of twitter essays I’ve read is probably in the low double digits.) Still, it’s good. First tweet: [INDENT][INDENT]So a lot of people don’t have much experience with real estate developers. Donald Trump is basically a walking cliche. I’ll explain. [/INDENT][/INDENT]

[Here’s the link to the Twitter thread, in case you were wondering.](https://twitter.com/thomashcrown/status/745243525483134979) You’ll have to expand a few times to read all of it.

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**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2016, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1819 "2016-06-23T23:32:20Z")

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Looks like he now has [$50 million](http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/trump-forgives-campaign-loan-224732) in sunk costs. He has pledged to not repay himself for loans to his campaign. I guess potential donors didn’t want their campaign contributions going directly in Trump’s pocket…

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2016, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1820 "2016-06-23T23:47:13Z")

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> [@jasg](#):
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> Looks like he now has [$50 million](http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/trump-forgives-campaign-loan-224732) in sunk costs. He has pledged to not repay himself for loans to his campaign. I guess potential donors didn’t want their campaign contributions going directly in Trump’s pocket…

Trump Hotels will now charge the campaign 10,000 per night.  
Beds extra.

The plane is 100,000 per hour. Permission to land fees extra.

Trump Water-100/bottle. Chlorine extra.

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