# Donald Trump's 2016 General Election Campaign **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [May 4, 2016, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901 "2016-05-04T02:37:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 93
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2016, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1841 "2016-06-24T20:05:16Z")
> [@Belowjob2.0](#): > > This guy’s clearly pro-Trump, though he claims otherwise. His analysis of the Trump phenomenon has been brilliant and prescient. Take what you get from the majority of posters here, and balance against Scott Adam’s analysis of Trump. > > [http://blog.dilbert.com/](http://blog.dilbert.com/) > [@iiandyiiii](#): > > He has some interesting ideas – he seems to believe that the one with the best persuading skills will always win. But I think he misses something – great big chunks of the population can’t be persuaded on certain issues. To take it to an extreme, the best persuader in the world won’t be able to persuade most Jews that they deserved to be killed in the Holocaust. > There’s a plateau with certain ideas that even a great persuader will never exceed, and I think Adams is missing this consistently. … > [@elucidator](#): > > As a political historian and analyst, he is an excellent cartoonist. Yeah. Adams works hard to sell his “Trump is a mastermind” theory, but falls short of success. (To offer just one example of the weakness of Adams’ theory: the \*Spy Magazine \*“linguistic kill shot” against Trump, “short-fingered vulgarian,” has had far more impact and traction than any “LKS” ever invented by Trump.) ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2016, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1842 "2016-06-24T22:41:56Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > As a political historian and analyst, he is an excellent cartoonist. Ha! Yes, this. So much this. ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2016, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1843 "2016-06-25T00:43:10Z")
I love his cartoons. I never knew that he had this side to him. ---
**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2016, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1844 "2016-06-25T00:52:30Z")
Has anyone been following [Trump’s Twitter feed on Brexit](http://fusion.net/story/318640/delete-your-golf-course/)? > [@](#): > > toupéd fucktrumpet The British have a way with words! ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2016, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1845 "2016-06-25T01:15:46Z")
> [@kunilou](#): > > Has anyone been following [Trump’s Twitter feed on Brexit](http://fusion.net/story/318640/delete-your-golf-course/)? > > The British have a way with words! I liked “weapons-grade plum” myself. ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2016, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1846 "2016-06-25T01:25:00Z")
> [@kunilou](#): > > Has anyone been following [Trump’s Twitter feed on Brexit](http://fusion.net/story/318640/delete-your-golf-course/)? > > > [@](#): > > > > toupéd fucktrumpet > > The British have a way with words! When I read that, in my head I hear it in John Cleese’s voice. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2016, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1847 "2016-06-25T02:09:36Z")
Trump landed in Scotland, met by bagpipes. Good, he deserved it. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2016, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1848 "2016-06-25T03:15:17Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > He has some interesting ideas – he seems to believe that the one with the best persuading skills will always win. But I think he misses something – great big chunks of the population can’t be persuaded on certain issues. Adams has a remarkable hostility towards women, and Trump, for all his alleged persuasion skills, is hated by women. Adams can’t perceive that. He seems to be unaware Trump is behind in the polls, but that’s because Adams doesn’t see women as being part of the Master Persuader’s (his term) electorate. Adams really doesn’t know what he’s talking about. He truly believes in hypnosis and NLP and is convinced Trump is the greatest ever. Adams WAS right that Trump would win the nomination… but as Adams himself will say in other contexts, if you predict enough things you will get one right and no one remembers the wrong ones. Peter Schiff is still riding on his famed prediction of the 2008 economic crisis. Since then he’s been no more prescient than a monkey with a dartboard, but his fans remember when he got it right. Scott Adams is the Peter Schiff of the 2016 election. Blind squirrel found his nut. When Trump loses, Adams will claim it was a fix. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2016, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1849 "2016-06-25T04:37:13Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > …NLP… “Neuro-linguistic programming”? Oh, lordy. ---
**Author:** ![glowacks](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/glowacks/32/5548_2.png) [@glowacks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glowacks)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2016, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1850 "2016-06-25T04:38:31Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > As a political historian and analyst, he is an excellent cartoonist. He’s actually god-awful as a cartoonist, in the sense of being able to draw cartoons. He’s a gifted writer and humorist who can draw just well enough to get his ideas across in the cartoon form, but he’s actually a extremely terrible cartoonist. ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Mighty\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Girl)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2016, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1851 "2016-06-25T05:57:22Z")
> [@glowacks](#): > > He’s actually god-awful as a cartoonist, in the sense of being able to draw cartoons. He’s a gifted writer and humorist who can draw just well enough to get his ideas across in the cartoon form, but he’s actually a extremely terrible cartoonist. This. His drawing is amateurish, and his humor unsophisticated. He doesn’t deserve to sharpen Larson’s or Ann Telnae’s pencils. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2016, 9:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1852 "2016-06-25T09:31:36Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > Adams has a remarkable hostility towards women, and Trump, for all his alleged persuasion skills, is hated by women. Adams can’t perceive that. He seems to be unaware Trump is behind in the polls, but that’s because Adams doesn’t see women as being part of the Master Persuader’s (his term) electorate. > > Adams really doesn’t know what he’s talking about. He truly believes in hypnosis and NLP and is convinced Trump is the greatest ever. Adams WAS right that Trump would win the nomination… but as Adams himself will say in other contexts, if you predict enough things you will get one right and no one remembers the wrong ones. Peter Schiff is still riding on his famed prediction of the 2008 economic crisis. Since then he’s been no more prescient than a monkey with a dartboard, but his fans remember when he got it right. Scott Adams is the Peter Schiff of the 2016 election. Blind squirrel found his nut. > > When Trump loses, Adams will claim it was a fix. Okay, I was too kind, after reading some more about Adams. What an asshole. ---
**Author:** ![Pashnish\_Ewing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8797f3/32.png) [@Pashnish\_Ewing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pashnish_Ewing)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2016, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1853 "2016-06-25T18:09:51Z")
I get the feeling Adams is Sir Arthur Conan Doyle to Trumps [Elsie & Frances](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cottingley_Fairies?wprov=sfsi1) ---
**Author:** ![Belowjob2.0](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Belowjob2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Belowjob2.0)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2016, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1854 "2016-06-25T18:28:35Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > Yeah. Adams works hard to sell his “Trump is a mastermind” theory, but falls short of success. (To offer just one example of the weakness of Adams’ theory: the \*Spy Magazine \*“linguistic kill shot” against Trump, “short-fingered vulgarian,” has had far more impact and traction than any “LKS” ever invented by Trump.) “Short fingered vulgarian” has had some impact among members of the chattering classes, and their fellow travellers (eg, SDMB). The impact among working class white folks who will flood polling places this November? Little or none. What has had an impact is “crooked Hilary”. What had has an impact is the call for a ban on Muslims. Sure it’s retarded but it makes Trump look prescient after Orlando, and it seems reasonable to the unread and untravelled. There is really just one question: will Trump’s LKS’s increase pro Trump turnout among working class whitefolks in OH, PA, VA, NC, and FL? Absolutely. Now, I’m not sure how he’ll turn around his support with white women. He’ll figure something out. Maybe that’s the question Adams will answer next. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2016, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1855 "2016-06-25T19:12:16Z")
> [@Belowjob2.0](#): > > “Short fingered vulgarian” has had some impact among members of the chattering classes, and their fellow travellers (eg, SDMB). The impact among working class white folks who will flood polling places this November? Little or none. > > What has had an impact is “crooked Hilary”. What had has an impact is the call for a ban on Muslims. Sure it’s retarded but it makes Trump look prescient after Orlando, and it seems reasonable to the unread and untravelled. Again, as pointed many times, it has an impact among Republicans; but we should not forget that we are out of the Republican sandbox. In the park at large Trump and his followers are frustrated that Orlando and “crooked Hillary” has not had the traction that they expected. > **[Trump insiders disappointed Orlando shooting didn't give him a 'bump in the...](https://www.rawstory.com/2016/06/trump-insiders-disappointed-orlando-shooting-didnt-give-him-a-bump-in-the-polls-report/)** > > People close to Donald Trump are reportedly scrambling to come up with a political strategy to save his campaign after last week's mass shooting in Orlando failed to give the candidate a "bump in the polls" as his aides had hoped. According to a... **2016 Florida President - Clinton 47%, Trump 39% (Quinnipiac University 6/8-6/19)** > [@Belowjob2.0](#): > > There is really just one question: will Trump’s LKS’s increase pro Trump turnout among working class whitefolks in OH, PA, VA, NC, and FL? Absolutely. Again, correct on the Republican side, much to their shame, but again since we are talking about the whole electorate the xenophobia of Trump is increasing also the will of the whole electorate to dismiss him, like in Florida. [http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/polls/quinnipiac-24720](http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/polls/quinnipiac-24720) > [@Belowjob2.0](#): > > Now, I’m not sure how he’ll turn around his support with white women. He’ll figure something out. Maybe that’s the question Adams will answer next. As I pointed before Adams misses a lot of inconvenient facts about why Trump is not as he is picturing him, his big blind spot is regarding the matching polls vs Clinton (that were worse for Trump when he started and got into a double digit difference at the Time Trump began to capture the Republican nomination, when Trump was making his more assholish moves). Those matching polls really demonstrated that the more Trump sounded like a “genius” to Adams and the Republicans, The more Trump sounded like an idiot to most of the whole electorate. In any case, does everyone missed that Adams in the end of the last cited article admits that he is voting for Hillary? It seems that even him realizes that Trump is not good presidential material, only that he is a genius, of something, but not good enough to be president. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2016, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1856 "2016-06-25T19:21:43Z")
I did read a bit more and the main reason Adams is voting for Hillary is mostly for selfish reasons. I still see it as Adams knowing that there are many other reasons why Trump will not be good for America. But just like a lot of the bullshitters in the right wing media they can not tell all of it to their readers and viewers. The show must go on. [http://blog.dilbert.com/post/146157026376/how-to-un-hypnotize-a-rabid-anti-trumper](http://blog.dilbert.com/post/146157026376/how-to-un-hypnotize-a-rabid-anti-trumper) ---
**Author:** ![Belowjob2.0](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Belowjob2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Belowjob2.0)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2016, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1857 "2016-06-25T20:53:13Z")
> [@](#): > > In any case, does everyone missed that Adams in the end of the last cited article admits that he is voting for Hillary? It seems that even him realizes that Trump is not good presidential material, only that he is a genius, of something, but not good enough to be president. > > **Last edited by GIGObuster** ; Today at 02:14 PM… That’s a persuasion trick. A variation on the backhanded compliment. He says he supports Hilary because Democratic voters in the SF Bay area pose a threat to his personal safety. Implication: Democrats are violent, irrational, uncivilized. Now it’s a fairly obvious trick, that Adams is pulling for the sake of LOLZ, because he thinks progressives aren’t playing fair when they compare Trump to Hitler. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2016, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1858 "2016-06-25T21:27:47Z")
> [@Belowjob2.0](#): > > That’s a persuasion trick. A variation on the backhanded compliment. He says he supports Hilary because Democratic voters in the SF Bay area pose a threat to his personal safety. Implication: Democrats are violent, irrational, uncivilized. > > Now it’s a fairly obvious trick, that Adams is pulling for the sake of LOLZ, because he thinks progressives aren’t playing fair when they compare Trump to Hitler. Of course there might be that, but for me it is important to make the right wing peanut gallery to notice that even Adams, as much as he paints Trump as a “genius”, thinks that Trump should not be president. I have to assume that Adams is intelligent enough to know how terrible Trump will for be for the economy and that the tax cuts Trump proposes will make an even larger huuuge hole to the deficit. In the end I do think that most of the people are not being persuaded by that trick of Adams because is not the purpose there to help Trump win? Nah, I see his ultimate support for Hillary as the lesson that all right wingers should note. Much to their chagrin. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2016, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1859 "2016-06-25T21:41:41Z")
When you’re the nominee and you cause [George Will](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/george-will-sinking-gop_us_576ec60ee4b0dbb1bbbac552?k2mxlq8a5omj3v7vi) to leave the party, you’re doing something special. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2016, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1860 "2016-06-25T21:52:00Z")
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