# Donald Trump's 2016 General Election Campaign **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [May 4, 2016, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901 "2016-05-04T02:37:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 95
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2016, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1881 "2016-06-26T15:45:06Z")
> [@computergeek](#): > > Man, if Trump manages to win, the American people fully deserve the crapstorm that he will unleash with his cluelessness. This election has 5 months to go and I fear that Trump will manage to come from behind somehow to win the thing. Nobody should be complacent with this guy, no matter what the polls say right now Of course, that is why for the first time in my life I’m volunteering. And you would think that there should be no chance in such a Red state like Arizona, but Trump is making a difference… Just not the one the Republicans wanted. [http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/polls/284634-poll-clinton-leads-trump-in-deep-red-arizona](http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/polls/284634-poll-clinton-leads-trump-in-deep-red-arizona) > [@](#): > > A new poll shows Hillary Clinton running ahead of Donald Trump in Arizona, where a Democratic presidential candidate has carried the state only once in the last 64 years. > > A survey by Phoenix-based OH Predictive Insights found Clinton taking 46.5 percent support over Trump at 42.2 percent. > > About 6 percent of respondents said they would vote for an unspecified third-party candidate, while 5.6 percent said they’re undecided. > > Former President Bill Clinton is the last Democrat to carry the state, narrowly defeating Bob Dole there in 1996, when Reform Party candidate Ross Perot was also on the ballot. Prior to Clinton, the last Democratic presidential candidate to carry the state was Harry Truman, in 1948. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2016, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1882 "2016-06-26T15:51:39Z")
[Much of the money spent on Trump’s campaign has been paid to Trump](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xe99v8_ODNQ), for example the campaign has paid almost half a million dollars to rent Trump’s house in Florida. @ Those who’ve laughed at me for stating that Trump isn’t trying to win the election — guess who’s getting the last laugh? ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2016, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1883 "2016-06-26T16:08:20Z")
One thing to never forget, it was pasted in a lot of the media that Trump firing his manager was at last a sign that Trump would cease to frail, the ‘Scotland glad to leave the EU’ fiasco showed how out of his depth Trump really is. It shows **again** that the problem was Trump all along and unfortunately for the Republicans they can’t fire him now. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2016, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1884 "2016-06-26T16:09:01Z")
Oh, **Septimus** , you don’t really understand the issue, do you? 😛 Trump has to pay himself back BY LAW. He has no choice but to funnel millions of campaign donations to his own businesses. Trump even said so himself: > [@](#): > > TRUMP: And by the way, I’m forced — you know, legally, I have to pay myself back. If I use — this has nothing to do with the campaign. You won’t see this, I’m to support my children. But if I use one of my resorts in the United states and we have a press conference or something, **by law, I have to pay myself back.** > > QUESTION: I think this is the ninth Trump property we visited during your presidential campaign. Why do you continue having events here? > > TRUMP: My properties — number one,\*\* I have the best properties\*\*. Okay? You can say that. > > I will say, a lot the of the press has said, “whether you like them or not, there’s no properties like that.” I have the best properties and you don’t get to see that otherwise, but I have the best properties. > > TRUMP: And the other thing is, why should I use somebody else’s properties? Number one, they’re not as good and number two, it’s one of those things.\*\* I wish, frankly, I wasn’t forced by law to pay myself back. We’re forced to pay. You do understand that, sir? \*\*A couple of people said, “He’s paying to his campaign.” I’m not paying to my campaign. See? It’s all above-board! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2016, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1885 "2016-06-26T16:37:38Z")
Trump has inspired some [great British insults.](http://www.barstoolsports.com/boston/donald-trump-was-the-victim-of-some-vicious-british-insults-which-are-incredible-and-my-new-favorite-thing/) My favorite: “Scotland voted to stay & plan on a second referendum, you tiny-fingered, Cheeto-faced, ferret wearing shitgibbon”. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2016, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1886 "2016-06-26T17:27:51Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Oh, **Septimus** , you don’t really understand the issue, do you? 😛 > > Trump has to pay himself back BY LAW. He has no choice but to funnel millions of campaign donations to his own businesses. Trump even said so himself: > > > [@](#): > > > > TRUMP: And by the way, I’m forced — you know, legally, I have to pay myself back. If I use — this has nothing to do with the campaign. You won’t see this, I’m to support my children. But if I use one of my resorts in the United states and we have a press conference or something, by law, I have to pay myself back. > > > > QUESTION: I think this is the ninth Trump property we visited during your presidential campaign. Why do you continue having events here? > > > > TRUMP: My properties — number one, I have the best properties. Okay? You can say that. > > > > I will say, a lot the of the press has said, “whether you like them or not, there’s no properties like that.” I have the best properties and you don’t get to see that otherwise, but I have the best properties. > > > > TRUMP: And the other thing is, why should I use somebody else’s properties? Number one, they’re not as good and number two, it’s one of those things. I wish, frankly, I wasn’t forced by law to pay myself back. We’re forced to pay. You do understand that, sir? A couple of people said, “He’s paying to his campaign.” I’m not paying to my campaign. > > See? It’s all above-board! 😃 Funny how he’s not taking that money after he’s been paid and reinfusing it into his campaign (which, btw, is perfectly legal). ---
**Author:** ![Lok](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e8c25b/32.png) [@Lok](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lok)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2016, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1887 "2016-06-26T18:51:52Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > He’s doing less damage to his poll numbers that way, you gotta admit. He would have done less damage, if he could keep his mouth shut. Since that is apparently completely impossible, he managed. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2016, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1888 "2016-06-27T03:29:59Z")
> [@computergeek](#): > > Man, if Trump manages to win, the American people fully deserve the crapstorm that he will unleash with his cluelessness. This election has 5 months to go and I fear that Trump will manage to come from behind somehow to win the thing. Nobody should be complacent with this guy, no matter what the polls say right now Democrats can fix this pretty easily, in one of two ways: 1. Nominate a more electable candidate with working class cred like Biden 2. Have Clinton actually address concerns working class white voters have, rather than seeking to just bullshit them well enough to keep them from getting too riled up while she concentrates on better lip service to her base. The reason the British vote is so important is because this is a more liberal voting base than the US’s. If the Brits can fall victim to Trumpism because Labor fails to address legitimate concerns, then anyone can. The Democrats need to wake up. ---
**Author:** ![Nonsuch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nonsuch/32/2922_2.png) [@Nonsuch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nonsuch)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2016, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1889 "2016-06-27T04:00:10Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > The reason the British vote is so important is because this is a more liberal voting base than the US’s. If the Brits can fall victim to Trumpism because Labor fails to address legitimate concerns, then anyone can. The Democrats need to wake up. Brexit passed because young voters — the same constituency that would have left Sanders out to dry had he been the nominee — didn’t turn out and vote. That’s not so much of a problem for Clinton. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2016, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1890 "2016-06-27T04:02:25Z")
> [@](#): > > …Have Clinton actually address concerns working class white voters have… Hillary has not even once promised to lift the burden of _sharia_ law from the white working class. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2016, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1891 "2016-06-27T04:08:20Z")
It just gets better and better. Mitch McConnell declines the opportunity to say that Trump is qualified to be President: [http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/26/politics/mitch-mcconnell-donald-trump-qualified/index.html](http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/26/politics/mitch-mcconnell-donald-trump-qualified/index.html) ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2016, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1892 "2016-06-27T04:22:36Z")
> [@Nonsuch](#): > > Brexit passed because young voters — the same constituency that would have left Sanders out to dry had he been the nominee — didn’t turn out and vote. That’s not so much of a problem for Clinton. That’s a mother of an assumption. Young voters only really turned out in one election: 2008. There’s no evidence they will be there for Clinton, especially when they didn’t support her in the first place. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2016, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1893 "2016-06-27T04:26:46Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > That’s a mother of an assumption. Young voters only really turned out in one election: 2008. There’s no evidence they will be there for Clinton, especially when they didn’t support her in the first place. Not a stretch for an assumption at all. Bernie supporters are savvy enough to know that staying home on election day would help the hated Trump. They’ll come out and vote for Hillary in droves, especially since Bernie himself will ask them yo. ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2016, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1894 "2016-06-27T05:27:00Z")
> [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > Not a stretch for an assumption at all. Bernie supporters are savvy enough to know that staying home on election day would help the hated Trump. They’ll come out and vote for Hillary in droves, especially since Bernie himself will ask them yo. It may be more of a stretch than you think. I supported Sanders and I will now vote for Clinton in the general but I’m shocked at the number of Sanders supporters who are adamant that they will NEVER vote for Clinton. They have an exteme hatred for her that seems to be beyond all reason, and anyone who tries to reason with them gets that same vitriol aimed at them in response. They will NOT discuss it logically. They insist that they will either stay home, write in Sanders, or vote for either Jill Stein or Gary Johnson (???). I haven’t seen any say that they’ll vote for Trump but that’s small comfort. And lately they’re saying that they don’t care who Sanders asks them to vote for. They say that they won’t vote for her even if he asks them to. Seriously, talking with them is like talking with religious fundamentalists, anti-vaxers, or conspiracy theorists. They’ve built up an emotional wall and they will not allow it to be breached. ---
**Author:** ![Lok](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e8c25b/32.png) [@Lok](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lok)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2016, 7:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1895 "2016-06-27T07:50:38Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Democrats can fix this pretty easily, in one of two ways: > > 1. Nominate a more electable candidate with working class cred like Biden > > 2. Have Clinton actually address concerns working class white voters have, rather than seeking to just bullshit them well enough to keep them from getting too riled up while she concentrates on better lip service to her base. So in order to “fix” things in your opinion, the Dems first need to ignore the candidate the majority of their party vied for, for some one who didn’t even run. (Everyone seems to think doing that would destroy the Republican party, but you think it Rick’s for the Dems. :rolleyes:) For your second point, I am a working class white man, she is doing just fine addressing my concerns. Not perfect, but better than anyone else that is running. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2016, 8:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1896 "2016-06-27T08:12:32Z")
You are apparently in the minority. Trump is winning the white working class the way Democrats are winning the Latino vote. It’s still a demographic up for grabs, but if Clinton writes another op-ed where she talks about amnesty but devotes not a single paragraph to actually controlling immigration, then future Democrats will only win office if they can count on turnout by extremely unreliable demographics(Latinos and the young). And as those young voters try to get jobs and find they can’t… ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2016, 8:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1897 "2016-06-27T08:17:21Z")
While I recognize that the party voters have made their choices, the public rejects those choices. There should be some kind of acknowledgement of public opinion. Both parties should throw open their conventions and nominate candidates acceptable to the public. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2016, 8:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1898 "2016-06-27T08:36:44Z")
> [@davidm](#): > > It may be more of a stretch than you think. I supported Sanders and I will now vote for Clinton in the general but I’m shocked at the number of Sanders supporters who are adamant that they will NEVER vote for Clinton. Could just be posturing. Let’s see how they vote 4-1/2 months from now with election day and the prospect of a Trump presidency looming large. ---
**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2016, 8:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1899 "2016-06-27T08:38:38Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > While I recognize that the party voters have made their choices, the public rejects those choices. There should be some kind of acknowledgement of public opinion. Both parties should throw open their conventions and nominate candidates acceptable to the public. Speak for yourself, Republican. ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Mighty\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Girl)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2016, 8:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1900 "2016-06-27T08:43:58Z")
> [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > Not a stretch for an assumption at all. Bernie supporters are savvy enough to know that staying home on election day would help the hated Trump. They’ll come out and vote for Hillary in droves, especially since Bernie himself will ask them yo. Yep. [https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/06/26/donald-trumps-bad-month-just-got-worse-because-bernie-backers-just-rallied-to-clinton/](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/06/26/donald-trumps-bad-month-just-got-worse-because-bernie-backers-just-rallied-to-clinton/) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901.md?page=94) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901.md?page=96)