# Donald Trump's 2016 General Election Campaign **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [May 4, 2016, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901 "2016-05-04T02:37:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 97
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2016, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1921 "2016-06-27T15:09:43Z")
> [@Nonsuch](#): > > I had actually meant that Clinton built her primary win on more reliable voting blocs than Sanders’ brigades of young people. Sanders’ young voters may not break for her… At this point, it looks like they will: [Donald Trump is trying -- and failing -- to win over Bernie Sanders supporters](http://www.aol.com/article/2016/06/27/donald-trump-is-trying-and-failing-to-win-over-bernie-sand/21419673/) ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2016, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1922 "2016-06-27T15:09:55Z")
> [@Bridget\_Burke](#): > > … > [Another bulletin](http://theweek.com/speedreads/632497/gop-campaign-advisers-want-nothing-donald-trump)–the Republican “hiring spree” is ongoing because some stalwarts are sitting this one out. > > > [@](#): > > > > “Right now I feel no obligation to lift a finger to help Donald Trump,” said Brent Swander, a Republican logistics coordinator who has worked on multiple presidential campaigns. “Everything that we’re taught as children — not to bully, not to demean, to treat others with respect — everything we’re taught as children is the exact opposite of what the Republican nominee is doing,” Swander added. “How do you work for somebody like that? What would I tell my family?” > > > > Scott Smith, formerly of the George W. Bush, Rick Perry, and Ted Cruz outfits, echoed Swander’s sentiments. “It’s very clear that none of us are going to work for Trump,” he said. “Even if I wanted to work for Trump, my wife would kill me.” Don’t bully, don’t demean, treat others with respect - If only Republicans would have followed these rules in the past! Maybe their Presidential candidates haven’t been guilty of these things, but other politicians certainly have, not to mention their spokespeople and “journalists”. Like it or not, they’ve trained a large part of their base to expect, and even admire, this type of behavior and now those chickens are coming home to roost. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2016, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1923 "2016-06-27T15:13:10Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > The “Dump Trump” movement seems to be picking up organizational steam: > > That seems to be more work than the party establishment ever put into trying to stop Trump, which basically amounted to hand-wringing. > > [Dump Trump Movement Planning for Convention Floor Fight](http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/dump-trump-movement-planning-convention-floor-fight-n599361) Not at all that they named a person who was/is a Cruz supporter - of all the ex-Repub nominees, he’s the only one who has kept up with a paid staff even after suspending his campaign. If there is a Dump Trump nominee, it will be Cruz as he likely is the person behind all this organizing. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2016, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1924 "2016-06-27T15:16:48Z")
> [@Bridget\_Burke](#): > > I’m quite content to continue supporting Hillary–no, I don’t think we should throw our convention open to nominating a loser. > > Glad to see you admit that The Donald is “your guy.” Back to the subject of the OP–[Your Guy’s Campaign](http://fortune.com/2016/06/27/donalds-trump-campaign-gop-convention/) : > > They aren’t saying they plan to dump him, either. Why don’t you offer \*them \*your advice? > > [Another bulletin](http://theweek.com/speedreads/632497/gop-campaign-advisers-want-nothing-donald-trump)–the Republican “hiring spree” is ongoing because some stalwarts are sitting this one out. It’s not just some stalwarts, many of the top Dump Trump people are among the GOP’s best speechwriters and campaign managers. There is a YUUUGE antipathy on the part of most of those within the campaigning industry to have a “Donald J. Trump Campaign” line on their resume, so they are happily working with Senators and House members while telling Trump “sorry, too busy, maybe next time.” ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2016, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1925 "2016-06-27T15:21:16Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > > [@Nonsuch](#): > > > > I had actually meant that Clinton built her primary win on more reliable voting blocs than Sanders’ brigades of young people. Sanders’ young voters may not break for her, but if they don’t, I doubt they’ll mobilize in sufficient force to tip the scales decisively toward any other candidate. > > At this point, it looks like they will: [Donald Trump is trying -- and failing -- to win over Bernie Sanders supporters](http://www.aol.com/article/2016/06/27/donald-trump-is-trying-and-failing-to-win-over-bernie-sand/21419673/) Not supporting Trump is not the same is not the same as supporting Clinton. That article mentions a poll that shows that only 8% of Sanders supporters will back Trump and from that jumps to the unsupported conclusion that most of the rest will back Clinton. I do think that a significant proportion of the rest _will_ back Clinton, but there’s nothing in that article to support that. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2016, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1926 "2016-06-27T15:22:51Z")
Say they do manage to dump Trump at the convention. Would that send a message, particularly to his supporters, that the primary process is just a joke since the Top Guys still have to approve the choice or else? ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2016, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1927 "2016-06-27T15:39:42Z")
> [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > Say they do manage to dump Trump at the convention. Would that send a message, particularly to his supporters, that the primary process is just a joke since the Top Guys still have to approve the choice or else? Yup, it would basically mean kissing goodbye to 13,000,000 voters who thought that their vote for Trump in the primary meant something, and a branding of the Republicans as antidemocratic as opposed to just antiDemocratic. As bad as Trump is they are far better with him than without him, both in terms of the 2016 election and for the long term health of the party. ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2016, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1928 "2016-06-27T15:43:08Z")
> [@Nonsuch](#): > > Is there a cite saying the Trump campaign is using ORCA again this year? No, I was merely comparing the experience the relative campaigns have available to them (Obama’s highly effective NARWHAL v Romney’s disastrous ORCA). For all I know, both camps are going in different directions. Sorry that wasn’t clear. In any case, it’s all academic since — at least for the past couple of election cycles — these strategies have been closely held secrets. ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2016, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1929 "2016-06-27T15:50:34Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > Yup, it would basically mean kissing goodbye to 13,000,000 voters who thought that their vote for Trump in the primary meant something, and a branding of the Republicans as antidemocratic as opposed to just antiDemocratic. As bad as Trump is they are far better with him than without him, both in terms of the 2016 election and for the long term health of the party. It may very well be that the Republicans’ best strategy at this point is to choose the lesser evil of conceding this election and looking to the future, as opposed to fatally or near-fatally wounding the party by going against a large part of their base. Their decades of stirring up the basest and most negative emotions and working to dumb down the electorate in general are coming home to roost. ---
**Author:** ![Nonsuch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nonsuch/32/2922_2.png) [@Nonsuch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nonsuch)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2016, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1930 "2016-06-27T15:57:10Z")
[Only Republicans who endorse Donald Trump will speak at the convention](http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/trump-no-endorsement-no-convention-speech). Makes sense, but I have a feeling The Donald will have to walk this one back. Gonna be a pretty bare-bones affair otherwise. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2016, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1931 "2016-06-27T16:52:50Z")
> [@Nonsuch](#): > > [Only Republicans who endorse Donald Trump will speak at the convention](http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/trump-no-endorsement-no-convention-speech). > > Makes sense, but I have a feeling The Donald will have to walk this one back. Gonna be a pretty bare-bones affair otherwise. I think he would be quite ok with being the only speaker for the entire convention. ---
**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2016, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1932 "2016-06-27T16:55:04Z")
> [@Nonsuch](#): > > [Only Republicans who endorse Donald Trump will speak at the convention](http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/trump-no-endorsement-no-convention-speech). > > Makes sense, but I have a feeling The Donald will have to walk this one back. Gonna be a pretty bare-bones affair otherwise. Perhaps he’ll allow some speakers to appear with clothespins on their noses. Or paper bags over their heads… ---
**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2016, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1933 "2016-06-27T17:01:07Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Which is still few enough to justify a change. The parties are not obligated to endorse candidates the general electorate hates. Then who ARE they obligated to nominate? A candidate like Jeb Bush or Dennis Kasich, who couldn’t even win support among their party’s own members? Someone like Mitt Romney, who didn’t even choose to run in 2016? A dark-horse candidate, with whom the electorate is unfamiliar, and who’s never tried a national campaign? ---
**Author:** ![Lok](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e8c25b/32.png) [@Lok](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lok)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2016, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1934 "2016-06-27T17:58:05Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > The “Dump Trump” movement seems to be picking up organizational steam: > > That seems to be more work than the party establishment ever put into trying to stop Trump, which basically amounted to hand-wringing. > > [Dump Trump Movement Planning for Convention Floor Fight](http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/dump-trump-movement-planning-convention-floor-fight-n599361) It is also more work than the Trump campaign is apparently doing to get him elected. > [@iiandyiiii](#): > > No, we recognize that it’s relative popularity that matters, not absolute popularity. Further, we recognize that plenty of people don’t particularly like Hillary but are happy to vote for her – hell, I’m not sure how I’d answer a polling question about whether I find her favorable, but I will very enthusiastically vote for her. There are things about her I like, things I don’t like. But I am satisfied with her as the Democratic candidate for this election. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2016, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1935 "2016-06-27T18:04:39Z")
In Trump’s latest attempt to accuse Elizabeth Warren of being “racist” (spoilers: she’s not), [he proceeded to drop the following](http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/trump-calls-elizabeth-warren-racist); [QUOTE=Donald J. Trump, short-fingered vulgarian] She is one of the least productive senators in the United States Senate. We call her Pocahontas for a reason. [/QUOTE] I don’t even. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2016, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1936 "2016-06-27T18:07:29Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > In Trump’s latest attempt to accuse Elizabeth Warren of being “racist” (spoilers: she’s not), [he proceeded to drop the following](http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/trump-calls-elizabeth-warren-racist); > > I don’t even. Because Pocahontas was one of the least productive native Americans? That’s the only thing that logically follows… ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2016, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1937 "2016-06-27T18:10:56Z")
Trump down by 4 in AZ… > **[Watch out Donald Trump, Arizona Might Just be Going for Hillary Clinton](http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/news/watch-out-donald-trump-arizona-might-just-be-going-for-hillary-clinton-8396061)** > > Given the amount of love and attention Donald Trump has heaped on Arizona in the past year, you'd think he'd have the state in the bag come November. Turns out, that just might not be the case. A new poll released this week by OH Strategic... ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2016, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1938 "2016-06-27T18:26:14Z")
In 3-way race, Trump up by 8 in TX. In 2012, Romney was up by 16pts in same poll. > **[University of Texas / Texas Politics Project Poll Shows Trump Leading Clinton...](https://texaspolitics.utexas.edu/blog/university-texas-texas-politics-project-poll-shows-trump-leading-clinton-amidst-signs-disunity)** ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2016, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1939 "2016-06-27T19:19:41Z")
> [@Nonsuch](#): > > [Only Republicans who endorse Donald Trump will speak at the convention](http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/trump-no-endorsement-no-convention-speech). > > Makes sense, but I have a feeling The Donald will have to walk this one back. Gonna be a pretty bare-bones affair otherwise. Does it even work that way? I mean, big picture, it is not \*his \*convention. It is the GOP’s convention - at which he’ll be nominated - but it seems to me he shouldn’t have shit to say about who speaks and who doesn’t. Wouldn’t that be up to Reince Priebus or whatever committee is in charge of snacks, streamers and speakers or whatever? ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2016, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1940 "2016-06-27T19:39:12Z")
Granted, this comes from the Clinton campaign, but it does seem to fit The Donald’s recent crapatcular responses to world events: > [@](#): > > “At this point, there is an emerging Donald Trump playbook in reaction to crisis,” said Sullivan, accusing Trump of indulging in “pathological self-congratulation,” ignoring advisors, making up facts, and talking about what’s good for himself, and not the nation. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901.md?page=96) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901.md?page=98)