# Donald Trump's 2016 General Election Campaign

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [May 4, 2016, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901 "2016-05-04T02:37:34Z")\
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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2016, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1941 "2016-06-27T19:46:29Z")

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> “At this point, there is an emerging Donald Trump playbook in reaction to crisis,” said Sullivan, accusing Trump of indulging in “pathological self-congratulation,” ignoring advisors, making up facts, and talking about what’s good for himself, and not the nation.

“I was the first person who said Hillary Clinton was gonna be president. OK? She’s president. I could’ve won, but the voters were very unfair to me.”

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2016, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1942 "2016-06-27T19:52:31Z")

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True dat. He should have the voter popularity of painful rectal itch instead of being the nominee. Hugely unfair!

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**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2016, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1943 "2016-06-27T20:04:12Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> In Trump’s latest attempt to accuse Elizabeth Warren of being “racist” (spoilers: she’s not), [he proceeded to drop the following](http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/trump-calls-elizabeth-warren-racist);
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> [QUOTE=Donald J. Trump, short-fingered vulgarian]  
> She is one of the least productive senators in the United States Senate. We call her Pocahontas for a reason.

I don’t even.  
[/QUOTE]  
I think what’s happening with that statement is that he believes native Americans are unproductive and assumes that everyone else believes that and will therefore understand WTF he’s talking about.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2016, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1944 "2016-06-27T20:07:02Z")

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Sad to say, I get it…

Pocahontas

She’s “pokey”, i.e., [slow](https://www.google.com/search?q=poke&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS694US694&oq=poke&aqs=chrome..69i57.686j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#safe=off&q=poke+definition). She just pokes along. Did he pronounce it “pokey-hontas” or emphasize the “poke” part?

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2016, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1945 "2016-06-27T20:09:45Z")

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Simply because he says two really stupid things in sequence does not mean there is a connection. Thoughts skitter across that mind like a water drop on a hot, greasy griddle.

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**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2016, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1946 "2016-06-27T20:15:25Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> Sad to say, I get it…
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> Pocahontas
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> She’s “pokey”, i.e., [slow](https://www.google.com/search?q=poke&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS694US694&oq=poke&aqs=chrome..69i57.686j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#safe=off&q=poke+definition). She just pokes along. Did he pronounce it “pokey-hontas” or emphasize the “poke” part?

I think you solved it.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2016, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1947 "2016-06-27T20:16:01Z")

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To me, the interesting part of that statement is how he included himself as a part of the US Senate. I can hear Mitch McConnell now… “Who’s this ‘we’, asshole?”

Actually, Mitch would probably just say “La, la, la, I can’t hear anything… this tinnitus is diagnosed to last to November!”

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2016, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1948 "2016-06-27T20:17:19Z")

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> [@davidm](#):
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> I think you solved it.

We do wordplay a lot in our family. This is something my daughter would have come up with at the age of 7 or so.

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**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2016, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1949 "2016-06-27T20:17:20Z")

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_“We call her Pocahontas for a reason.”_

Calling her “Pocahontas” _at all_ seems pretty, well, racist.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2016, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1950 "2016-06-27T20:18:55Z")

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> [@GIGObuster](#):
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> I have to assume that Adams is intelligent enough to know how terrible Trump will for be for the economy and that the tax cuts Trump proposes will make an even larger huuuge hole to the deficit.

Really, I don’t think that’s true at all. Adams is _transparently_ a Trump supporter - every time he writes “I support Hillary Clinton” he does so with a disclaimer of some kind about as subtle as a B-52 overfly - and he’s being cooing over Trump and apologizing (in the argumentative sense) for Trump’s platform since Day One. It is literally his position that people who oppose Donald Trump are brainwashed.

I don’t mean to derail the thread over SCott Adams, who, I again hasten to point out, is IMHO one of the funniest and most important cartoonists of our time. However, he is arguably the most famous and influential Trump supporter not named Trump, and you could not find a more appropriate poster child for the Trump campaign; a privileged white man who claims to be hard done by. Today’s Adams blog is about “The humiliation of the American male” in which he claims American men are now in a state of complete humiliation, “owned” by women. His evidence for this is a prevalence of V-necked sweaters, whatever the hell that’s supposed to mean. (I don’t get it, but then, I don’t have any V-necked sweaters.)

Adams, as he always does, puts in a disclaimer that well, maybe men have it okay, but they think they’re humiliated and that’s what matters. But the notion that men are hard done by and exploited by women is a topic he’s written about over and over, for years now. This is who supports Donald Trump; people who think they have it bad but don’t and who want to blame a demographic group for it. In Adams’s case he hates women; others might have blacks, Mexicans, the Chinese, or whomever. Many in the USA seem to blame homosexuals, though Trump hasn’t courted the gay-haters.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2016, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1951 "2016-06-27T20:23:18Z")

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“However, he (Scott Adams) is arguably the most famous and influential Trump supporter not named Trump”

If true, I’ll take this one with a feeling of relief, not worry. 😉

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**Author:** ![Alley\_Dweller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alley_dweller/32/430_2.png) [@Alley\_Dweller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alley_Dweller)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2016, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1952 "2016-06-27T20:30:10Z")

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> [@davidm](#):
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> I think what’s happening with that statement is that he believes native Americans are unproductive and assumes that everyone else believes that and will therefore understand WTF he’s talking about.

There is the real Pocahontas and then there is the [cartoon-character Pocahontas](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Pocahontas_Disney.png). The cartoon Pocahontas is one of the “Disney princesses” who is shaped in Barbie Doll proportions and wears skimpy buckskin outfits and has has black hair.

Calling an adult woman a “princess” is usually considered a pejorative term, implying that she has great privilege and isn’t expected to work for herself. This may or may not be representative of the actual real-world princesses, but the stereotype persists.

[Elizabeth Warren once claimed to have some American Indian ancestry](http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/05/is-elizabeth-warren-native-american-or-what/257415/). So, in effect, Trump is calling her an Indian princess.

I really doubt that Trump knows anything whatsoever about any real life Indians named Pocahantas.

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**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2016, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1953 "2016-06-27T20:30:24Z")

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> [@Jack\_Batty](#):
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> Does it even work that way? I mean, big picture, it is not \*his \*convention. It is the GOP’s convention - at which he’ll be nominated - but it seems to me he shouldn’t have shit to say about who speaks and who doesn’t. Wouldn’t that be up to Reince Priebus or whatever committee is in charge of snacks, streamers and speakers or whatever?

My understanding is that, traditionally, the convention _does_ belong to the nominee. Usually, control is turned over to the candidates people, and they organize it, pick the speakers, etc. Which makes sense because it really is just a long commercial for the candidate.

Part of the problem AFAICT is that Trump doesn’t actually have the infrastructure in place to run the convention, so the RNC is scrambling to pick up that slack.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2016, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1954 "2016-06-27T20:36:57Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> Speak for YOURself, Democrat supporting a candidate 55% of the voters don’t like. At least I know my guy i hated. Democrats seem to think that Hillary’s popularity is going to turn the corner any day now, just as soon as the media and the Obama administration stop persecuting her.

She might be disliked, but at least the democratic party can operate with the knowledge that they selected the candidate that their voters wanted, and the candidate who will indisputably be the leader of the party.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2016, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1955 "2016-06-27T21:55:21Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> She might be disliked, but at least the democratic party can operate with the knowledge that they selected the candidate that their voters wanted, and the candidate who will indisputably be the leader of the party.

Note that she’s only disliked when she is being so ‘unwomanly’ as to be running for office.

As many have observed, her favorability/likability ratings are fairly high when she’s actually working a job (as Senator or as Secretary of State). It’s only when she’s ASKING for a job that she gets low ratings.

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> Hillary Clinton’s favorability ratings have fluctuated substantially throughout her more than two decades in public life.

[Hillary Clinton Favorability Timeline | Pew Research Center](http://www.people-press.org/2015/05/19/hillary-clinton-approval-timeline/)

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> _ **America loves women like Hillary Clinton–as long as they’re not asking for a promotion** _  
> It’s hard to remember these days, but just a few years ago, everybody loved Hillary Rodham Clinton. When she stepped down as US secretary of state in January 2013 after four years in office, her approval rating stood at what the Wall Street Journal described as an “eye-popping” 69%. That made her not only the most popular politician in the country, but the second-most popular secretary of state since 1948.

> **[America loves women like Hillary Clinton–as long as they’re not asking for a...](https://qz.com/624346/america-loves-women-like-hillary-clinton-as-long-as-theyre-not-asking-for-a-promotion)**
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> To campaign is to publicly claim that you are better than others (usually white men) who want the same job.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2016, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1956 "2016-06-28T01:27:16Z")

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Over 10 hours since the abortion ruling, and not a single word from the Trump campaign. Hillary, of course, has been all over it.

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**Author:** ![AnalogSignal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/analogsignal/32/1085_2.png) [@AnalogSignal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AnalogSignal)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2016, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1957 "2016-06-28T01:43:16Z")

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I think “Defeato the Cheeto” is more fun than the businesslike “Dump Trump.” 🙂

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**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2016, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1958 "2016-06-28T01:43:37Z")

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He’s probably trying to figure out just how pro life he can be publicly, and whether and how much his supporters care either way.

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**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2016, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1959 "2016-06-28T01:43:40Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> Over 10 hours since the abortion ruling, and not a single word from the Trump campaign. Hillary, of course, has been all over it.

Trump’s trying to figure out how to punish the justices.

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2016, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1960 "2016-06-28T01:45:54Z")

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He may still be en route from Scotland. I don’t know his travel plans, but he was there over the weekend.

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