# Donald Trump's big Obama announcement **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [October 24, 2012, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-big-obama-announcement/638686 "2012-10-24T01:41:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2012, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-big-obama-announcement/638686/61 "2012-10-24T16:22:47Z")
Wow, Trump went back to the birther thing this late in the game? I guess he’s worried about his ratings or something. I find myself thinking that this is the kind of thing Romney would do because I already think he’s a dick who would do a legal but ethically dubious favor for a powerful friend. So I don’t care. The one thing this arguably _does_ do is take attention away from the actual candidates, running the clock down for Romney just a little bit by making him compete with Trump for airtime or field questions about him. That’s not good for Romney. ---
**Author:** ![johnpost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f17d59/32.png) [@johnpost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/johnpost)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2012, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-big-obama-announcement/638686/62 "2012-10-24T16:24:29Z")
> [@Merneith](#): > > Also posted about this in the other thread - The Boston Globe is going to court tomorrow to try and get the papers unsealed on divorce between Tom Stemburg and his first wife Maureen. Romney was somehow “heavily involved” in their divorce proceedings but there’s a gag order and the papers are sealed. So we might get competing big announcements tomorrow. i see where she is OK with unsealing that testimony. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2012, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-big-obama-announcement/638686/63 "2012-10-24T16:25:04Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > The big reveal? [Trump will donate $5 million to a charity](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgOq9pBkY0I&feature=youtu.be&hd=1)of the President’s choice if he releases college records, passport application, etc. Seriously? This is beyond weak. It’s just a bully and a braggart waving his checkbook around. And he probably does not even have the funds to cover the check. ---
**Author:** ![vd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b19c9b/32.png) [@vd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vd)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2012, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-big-obama-announcement/638686/64 "2012-10-24T16:25:46Z")
> [@Bob Ducca](#): > > [Here’s the TMZ story.](http://www.tmz.com/2012/10/24/mitt-romney-tom-stemberg-staples-lied-perjury-divorce-case-maureen/) They’re pretty good with their sources and are usually right when putting out this kind of stuff, so I’d say it’s a good bet you’re right. Heh. [QUOTE=Truncated headline] Friend’s Ex-Wife Claims Romney LIED to Screw Her [/quote] ---
**Author:** ![Diceman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Diceman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diceman)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2012, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-big-obama-announcement/638686/65 "2012-10-24T16:30:04Z")
Having read the article more carefully, I find it even more dismissable than I originally did. It goes to great lengths to play the “guilt by association” card, painting the other guy as a major sleazeball. (They don’t cite any sources to back up those claims either, BTW.) The idea is that his bad divorce should somehow reflect on Romney. The only thing Romney himself did (even according to the article) is to testify that he thought Staples was overvalued, and that he didn’t put much faith in the company’s forecasts. I happen to think that Tesla Motors is grossly overvalued, and I don’t put much faith in their forecasts. Does that automatically make me a liar? Incidentally, Romney selling his shares in Staples was exactly the right thing to do. If you own a stock that you think is overvalued, you sell it and get the hell out before the price drops back to what it should be. Holding the stock would be foolish, unless you expect it to become even more overvalued in the future. ---
**Author:** ![Fotheringay-Phipps](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/d9b06d/32.png) [@Fotheringay-Phipps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fotheringay-Phipps)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2012, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-big-obama-announcement/638686/66 "2012-10-24T16:30:21Z")
> [@johnpost](#): > > i see where she is OK with unsealing that testimony. Apparently [so is Romney](http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_STAPLES_FOUNDER_DIVORCE_ROMNEY?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2012-10-24-11-55-51). > [@](#): > > Romney attorney Robert Jones said Romney would like time to review the entire transcript but does not anticipate objecting. He asked a judge not to delay the hearing beyond one day. > > “We’re in a little bit of a spin cycle now,” Jones said. “The longer this goes on, the more speculation there will be.” > > Jones also issued a statement. > > “This is a decades-old divorce case in which Mitt Romney provided testimony as to the value of a company,” he said. “He has no objection to letting the public see that testimony.” ---
**Author:** ![black\_rabbit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f19dbf/32.png) [@black\_rabbit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/black_rabbit)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2012, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-big-obama-announcement/638686/67 "2012-10-24T16:33:54Z")
[Ugh](http://www.salon.com/2012/10/24/donald_trumps_october_surprise_is_nothing/). I can’t tell whether that’s a video of his face or his asshole. ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2012, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-big-obama-announcement/638686/68 "2012-10-24T16:36:05Z")
> [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](#): > > Wow, that Trump announcement was a stinker. That was very, very big news that would change the election? That is a man desperate for attention. Because obviously, if Obama doesn’t immediately jump at this chance, then THAT MEANS HE HAS SOMETHING TO HIDE!!! And the American people should know that, and vote against the man who is obviously hiding his affirmative action benefits and Kenyan birth. Still, who expects that kind of dog whistle to play outside the loyalists who’re already voting against Obama? (This is why I’m not 100% sure that his performance in the first debate would’ve made a huge difference even if he did do great - Romney alone would’ve excited anti-Obamaites anyway.) ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2012, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-big-obama-announcement/638686/69 "2012-10-24T16:38:17Z")
> [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](#): > > Wow, that Trump announcement was a stinker. That was very, very big news that would change the election? That is a man desperate for attention. A rickroll would have a better chance of changing the election. [Crap, it’s been done already.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=669191) ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Knig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@Typo\_Knig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Knig)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2012, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-big-obama-announcement/638686/70 "2012-10-24T16:42:19Z")
How do we know that was really Donald Trump? Where is the long form video? What has he got to hide? I’m just asking questions here. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2012, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-big-obama-announcement/638686/71 "2012-10-24T16:49:51Z")
Donald Trump talking about Donald Trump? I am shocked. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2012, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-big-obama-announcement/638686/72 "2012-10-24T16:56:11Z")
You heard it here first! I’m offering Donald Trump $10 million to just shut up. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2012, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-big-obama-announcement/638686/73 "2012-10-24T16:59:14Z")
Well, I’d jump at the chance to earn 5 million for charity. They can release my college transcripts today if Trump has that check signed. Why wouldn’t Obama do the same? Does anyone care that he made a C on some class? He obviously maintained a overall GPA to graduate. Make 5 million for a charity Obama. Release those records. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2012, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-big-obama-announcement/638686/74 "2012-10-24T17:02:20Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > The big reveal? [Trump will donate $5 million to a charity](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgOq9pBkY0I&feature=youtu.be&hd=1)of the President’s choice if he releases college records, passport application, etc. > > Wow is that incredibly weak. A good bet is that some liberal millionaire will match the gift if he _doesn’t_ release anything. Did Fox send Geraldo Rivera to cover the press conference? ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2012, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-big-obama-announcement/638686/75 "2012-10-24T17:07:39Z")
> [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](#): > > Wow, that Trump announcement was a stinker. That was very, very big news that would change the election? That is a man desperate for attention. He’s the type who would set his hair on fire to get attention. Admittedly, it easier for him since he can just take it off first, but still… ---
**Author:** ![Nars\_Glinley](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nars_glinley/32/8177_2.png) [@Nars\_Glinley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nars_Glinley)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2012, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-big-obama-announcement/638686/76 "2012-10-24T17:08:00Z")
I didn’t think that Trump could underwhelm me. I was wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2012, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-big-obama-announcement/638686/77 "2012-10-24T17:10:01Z")
This is breathtaking in its lameness. Couldn’t he even assign an apprentice to make up a scandal? ---
**Author:** ![Andiethewestie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ba9def/32.png) [@Andiethewestie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andiethewestie)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2012, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-big-obama-announcement/638686/78 "2012-10-24T17:11:45Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > Well, I’d jump at the chance to earn 5 million for charity. They can release my college transcripts today if Trump has that check signed. > > Why wouldn’t Obama do the same? Does anyone care that he made a C on some class? He obviously maintained a overall GPA to graduate. Make 5 million for a charity Obama. Release those records. Yeah. No. the records have been fact checked to death, and it won’t stop this crazy haircut from finding something else. In the youtube the records had to be to Trump’s satisfaction. If the long form birth certificate isn’t to his satisfaction, nothing is. Not only that treating POTUS like he’s Gary Bussey from the Apprentice is beyond the pale. ---
**Author:** ![Palo\_Verde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/65b543/32.png) [@Palo\_Verde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Palo_Verde)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2012, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-big-obama-announcement/638686/79 "2012-10-24T17:13:09Z")
Don’t forget they have to be complete, and Trump himself decides if they are to his satisfaction. Why would the president want to play that kind of game with this nutball? ---
**Author:** ![Baracus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/2bfe46/32.png) [@Baracus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baracus)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2012, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-big-obama-announcement/638686/80 "2012-10-24T17:18:48Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > Well, I’d jump at the chance to earn 5 million for charity. They can release my college transcripts today if Trump has that check signed. > > Why wouldn’t Obama do the same? Does anyone care that he made a C on some class? He obviously maintained a overall GPA to graduate. Make 5 million for a charity Obama. Release those records. But Obama has already spent $7.5 kajillion suppressing those records! No way in hell he is going to let them go for $5 million. Trump knew that when he made this offer. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-big-obama-announcement/638686.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-big-obama-announcement/638686.md?page=5)