# Donald Trump's big Obama announcement

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-big-obama-announcement/638686>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [October 24, 2012, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-big-obama-announcement/638686 "2012-10-24T01:41:13Z")\
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**Author:** ![The\_Hamster\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8edcca/32.png) [@The\_Hamster\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Hamster_King)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2012, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-big-obama-announcement/638686/101 "2012-10-24T18:40:40Z")

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> [@aceplace57](#):
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> You think it’s embarrassing to support giving 5 million to charity?

No it’s embarrassing to perform like a trained circus monkey when money is waved in front of you. “Here’s 5 million dollars, now dance to my tune!” Of course Obama is going to turn it down. And Trump is a jackass for making such an offer.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2012, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-big-obama-announcement/638686/102 "2012-10-24T18:42:26Z")

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> [@aceplace57](#):
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> I’m actually on Obama’s side on this issue.

There is no issue. There’s just bullshit.

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> He can make this issue go away so easily.

No, he can’t. It started when he released his own records voluntarily and is based on bullshit. The problem is not disclosure or openness; the problem is that Obama is president. The rest is window dressing.

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> Modern politicians are expected to release more and more private information.

Which is why Mitt Romney’s failure to release more than two years of income taxes has destroyed his campaign.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2012, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-big-obama-announcement/638686/103 "2012-10-24T18:43:38Z")

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> [@aceplace57](#):
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> You think it’s embarrassing to support giving 5 million to charity? Can you imagine the good that money can do for homeless shelters and food programs?
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> Whats the downside for Obama? We all learn he made a C in Trigonometry? No one cares. There’s nothing there in those records that can hurt him.
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> What does hurt Obama is this reluctance to release information. It raises questions and uncertainty. I don’t think he’s hiding anything bad, but it pisses me off that his foot dragging raises these questions. If you act evasive then people think you are untrustworthy.
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> He could have shut down this birther nonsense 5 years ago. Instead he drags it out all those years before releasing his long form birth certificate. Thats just stupid. Release the college information, take Trumps check, and move on to more important things.

Obama hasn’t dragged his feet, and it’s clear nothing he could do would satisfy Trump and company. Trump even inserted a caveat- “to my satisfaction”- to get him out of his “promise” even if Obama were to release it. Trump can (and would) say that the docs are fake- yet another distraction to the campaign. Obama knows this (_everyone_ should know this)- so the only thing releasing the docs would do is give more publicity to Trump.

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**Author:** ![It\_s\_Not\_Rocket\_Surgery](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/it_s_not_rocket_surgery/32/312_2.png) [@It\_s\_Not\_Rocket\_Surgery](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/It_s_Not_Rocket_Surgery)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2012, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-big-obama-announcement/638686/104 "2012-10-24T18:47:02Z")

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I wonder if Trump was actually hoping to announce something else, but found out it was BS, so he made this offer to cover up for not having anything else to announce.

This makes no sense at all, but we ARE talking about Trump. I was hoping he would announce that his hairpiece was running in 2016.

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2012, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-big-obama-announcement/638686/105 "2012-10-24T18:57:08Z")

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> [@It\_s\_Not\_Rocket\_Surgery](#):
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> I wonder if Trump was actually hoping to announce something else, but found out it was BS, so he made this offer to cover up for not having anything else to announce.
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> This makes no sense at all, but we ARE talking about Trump. I was hoping he would announce that his hairpiece was running in 2016.

I wouldn’t be surprised if he had intended to talk about something like the divorce rumors but decided (or got leaned on) that it would backfire and benefit Obama.

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**Author:** ![Fiddle\_Peghead](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiddle_peghead/32/3506_2.png) [@Fiddle\_Peghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiddle_Peghead)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2012, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-big-obama-announcement/638686/106 "2012-10-24T19:05:43Z")

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> [@aceplace57](#):
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> I’m actually on Obama’s side on this issue. I’m convinced his records are in good order. He can make this issue go away so easily.

Perhaps he could, perhaps not, at least as far as his grades are concerned. I lean to “not.”\* But as others have said, it is imminently clear that the birther story will never go away. What is a surety is that FOX News and their ilk would be all over this story until election day if Obama acceded to Trump’s request, trotting out again and again that the president of the United States was brought to heel. As others have said, the appropriate response to this nonsense, is nothing.

- ETA: …I said, in the biggest understatement of my life.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2012, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-big-obama-announcement/638686/107 "2012-10-24T19:10:29Z")

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> [@aceplace57](#):
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> I’m actually on Obama’s side on this issue. I’m convinced his records are in good order. He can make this issue go away so easily.

No. No you’re not.

No, no he can’t.

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**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2012, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-big-obama-announcement/638686/108 "2012-10-24T19:10:39Z")

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If Trump was a Doper, Marley would have banned him for trolling years ago.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2012, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-big-obama-announcement/638686/109 "2012-10-24T19:12:48Z")

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Man Fox News can’t even polish this Trump turd. There’s nothing on FoxNews’ front page about it, their Politics page, and it’s just a tiny link below the fold on Fox Nation.

And I just want to make sure I have Trump’s pre-announcement

[quote right]  
([http://now.msn.com/donald-trump-says-he-has-very-very-big-news-about-obama?ocid=ansnow11](http://now.msn.com/donald-trump-says-he-has-very-very-big-news-about-obama?ocid=ansnow11)): “I know one thing, you will cover it in a very big fashion.” Yep.

So, my question is: who is the “you” Donald was referring to in that quote? Late night comedians? Cuz they’re the only ones who are gonna be all over this, I reckon.

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**Author:** ![Fotheringay-Phipps](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/d9b06d/32.png) [@Fotheringay-Phipps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fotheringay-Phipps)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2012, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-big-obama-announcement/638686/110 "2012-10-24T19:13:29Z")

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IMO, it’s a mistake to react to a clown offer of this sort even if was about a legitimate issue, which it’s obviously not.

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**Author:** ![Andiethewestie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ba9def/32.png) [@Andiethewestie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andiethewestie)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2012, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-big-obama-announcement/638686/111 "2012-10-24T19:14:32Z")

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> [@jsgoddess](#):
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> I wouldn’t be surprised if he had intended to talk about something like the divorce rumors but decided (or got leaned on) that it would backfire and benefit Obama.

Even 4 years ago the rumors were there, and Obama said at the time his marriage was “tested” early on. Turns out, like any couple they weather the storms. Must be crappy to have a President who actually works at his marriage and his family. It just completely pisses off workaholics that he insists on family dinner and date nights. So yeah, if bad Haircut had anything it probably didn’t pass the smell test.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2012, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-big-obama-announcement/638686/112 "2012-10-24T19:17:42Z")

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It’s not like the public at large is clamoring for Obama’s grades. A few Republicans are demanding he release them to disprove their opinion that he benefited in some way - admission to Harvard or honors there - because of affirmative action. He graduated with honors, and even if his grades are outstanding, they’re likely to stick to their guns. Since this is costing him no votes and the few people who say they care won’t be convinced by the evidence anyway, there’s no point in playing this game. And I am not one to care about this kind of thing, but I have to agree that responding to something like this is beneath Obama’s office. It’d look really undignified for the president to start releasing records on a dare.

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**Author:** ![mozchron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mozchron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mozchron)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2012, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-big-obama-announcement/638686/113 "2012-10-24T19:18:58Z")

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> [@jsgoddess](#):
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> Well, if we assume he can’t stop being black (I mean, I think we know that one. Has anyone done any research?).

Michael Jackson did it…

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**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2012, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-big-obama-announcement/638686/114 "2012-10-24T19:29:01Z")

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Obama: Save your money Donny, hell doesn’t stamp the passport of the Antichrist and since Kenya is in the Commonwealth my socialist education there was more than enough to pass a US freshman Comp. class.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2012, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-big-obama-announcement/638686/115 "2012-10-24T19:32:32Z")

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I’m confused. Again. Is this finally out now, that this whole college transcript thingy is actually what The Donald had?

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2012, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-big-obama-announcement/638686/116 "2012-10-24T19:36:07Z")

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> [@aceplace57](#):
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> He could have shut down this birther nonsense 5 years ago.

Somebody invented something five years ago that could retroactively turn him white?

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**Author:** ![shiftless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9c0ed/32.png) [@shiftless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shiftless)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2012, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-big-obama-announcement/638686/117 "2012-10-24T19:40:27Z")

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I’d like to point out that just recently the Republican party considered this very same Donald Trump as a serious contender for their nomination for POTUS. Yes, cooler heads prevailed, which gives me hope, but still, nobody saw the crazy a couple of months ago?

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**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2012, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-big-obama-announcement/638686/118 "2012-10-24T19:41:16Z")

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> [@jsgoddess](#):
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> I wouldn’t be surprised if he had intended to talk about something like the divorce rumors but decided (or got leaned on) that it would backfire and benefit Obama.

As if The Donald had any business critiquing somebody’s marital history…

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2012, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-big-obama-announcement/638686/119 "2012-10-24T19:41:41Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> I’m confused. Again. Is this finally out now, that this whole college transcript thingy is actually what The Donald had?

I think the only thing The Donald had was a transient ischemic attack if he thought this was in any way newsworthy.

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**Author:** ![fumster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9c0ed/32.png) [@fumster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fumster)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2012, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-big-obama-announcement/638686/120 "2012-10-24T19:56:40Z")

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> [@shiftless](#):
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> I’d like to point out that just recently the Republican party considered this very same Donald Trump as a serious contender for their nomination for POTUS. Yes, cooler heads prevailed, which gives me hope, but still, nobody saw the crazy a couple of months ago?

Well of course they did, as you said he was a serious contender for their nomination. Being the crazy is a requirement.

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