# Donald Trumps Hillary. Reactions.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-hillary-reactions/771158>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [November 9, 2016, 7:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-hillary-reactions/771158 "2016-11-09T07:48:22Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 7:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-hillary-reactions/771158/1 "2016-11-09T07:48:22Z")

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Damn. It’s really happened.

In the time of Trump.

What do you think the future holds? The transition?

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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 7:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-hillary-reactions/771158/2 "2016-11-09T07:49:04Z")

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Shaka, when the walls fell.

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**Author:** ![DerekMichaels00](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f14d63/32.png) [@DerekMichaels00](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DerekMichaels00)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 7:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-hillary-reactions/771158/3 "2016-11-09T07:49:49Z")

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So much for Obama’s attempt to create a liberal version of the Reagan Revolution.

Ideological overreach has consequences.

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 7:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-hillary-reactions/771158/4 "2016-11-09T07:53:31Z")

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Do you think Trump will even meet with Obama between now and the inauguration? He’ll probably have his flunkies take care of the transition.

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**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 7:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-hillary-reactions/771158/5 "2016-11-09T07:54:12Z")

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> [@DerekMichaels00](#):
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> So much for Obama’s attempt to create a liberal version of the Reagan Revolution.
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> Ideological overreach has consequences.

If that’s what happened, you might have a point. This was entirely about Hillary. Obama would have crushed Trump.

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**Author:** ![Sterling\_Archer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Sterling\_Archer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sterling_Archer)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 7:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-hillary-reactions/771158/6 "2016-11-09T07:55:04Z")

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I’ve never felt worse about the future of this world. I hope I’m wrong.

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**Author:** ![Smitty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e274bd/32.png) [@Smitty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smitty)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 7:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-hillary-reactions/771158/7 "2016-11-09T07:56:31Z")

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I can’t say I’m happy Trump won, but I am giddy that Hillary lost. No one in America deserves a stake through the heart more than that abomination.

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**Author:** ![manila](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e5b9ba/32.png) [@manila](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/manila)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 7:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-hillary-reactions/771158/8 "2016-11-09T07:58:02Z")

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OMFG I can’t breathe you americans so funny! Kim Kardashian for Secretary of State next?

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**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 7:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-hillary-reactions/771158/9 "2016-11-09T07:58:32Z")

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Unbelievable.

Well, propaganda matters. The right wing have done a spectacular job of it for decades, and now the Park Avenue elite have one of their own (sort of) in the White House.

The raping and pillaging will commence promptly.

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**Author:** ![DerekMichaels00](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f14d63/32.png) [@DerekMichaels00](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DerekMichaels00)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 8:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-hillary-reactions/771158/10 "2016-11-09T08:00:05Z")

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> [@BlankSlate](#):
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> If that’s what happened, you might have a point. This was entirely about Hillary. Obama would have crushed Trump.

Aside that being a moot point given the 22nd amendment, I don’t think so. Exit polls, which probably understate Trump, show Americans [wanted a more conservative President](http://www.cnn.com/election/results/exit-polls/national/president) today than has been President in the last 8 years. Before the campaign began, his job approvals were middling, and his approval and disapproval were in a dead heat. They likely went up as a result of the campaign, or as a valedictory goodbye. Ditto his favorable/unfavorable.

Also, look at how utterly badly Trump demolished Hillary in the South, worse than Romney and McCain against Obama in most states, and really badly in states Bill Clinton won twice. Even aside from those states, there is a correlation between states.

Also, that 3rd term thing loomed. Both Bush I and Gore got both smaller portions of the two-party vote than their nominee predecessors, as did popular vote losers Nixon 1960 and HHH, as well as Truman 1948. Bush Sr. probably would’ve lost to a stronger nominee, given his polling troubles against Dukakis until the tank and Horton.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 8:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-hillary-reactions/771158/11 "2016-11-09T08:02:44Z")

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> [@DerekMichaels00](#):
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> So much for Obama’s attempt to create a liberal version of the Reagan Revolution.
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> Ideological overreach has consequences.

Indeed, and one should not forget how Pete Wilson did win the governorship in California by supporting anti immigration initiatives. Of course the results the Republicans got later were a demonstration of that ideological overreach because nowadays California became and is now as Blue as ever. You really have another think coming.

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 8:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-hillary-reactions/771158/12 "2016-11-09T08:05:03Z")

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> [@AK84](#):
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> What do you think the future holds? The transition?

What will Trump do? I expect he’ll do what’s best for Trump, whatever that turns out to be.

My hope at this point is that people pay attention for the next two and four years. If the deficit, the unemployment rate, the crime rate, whatever, goes up or down, I just hope people will believe it. He has his chance to govern. I just want him to be judged fairly on his record the next time we have a chance to vote.

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**Author:** ![DerekMichaels00](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f14d63/32.png) [@DerekMichaels00](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DerekMichaels00)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 8:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-hillary-reactions/771158/13 "2016-11-09T08:05:47Z")

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> [@GIGObuster](#):
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> Indeed, and one should not forget how Pete Wilson did win the governorship in California by supporting anti immigration initiatives. Of course the results the Republicans got later were a demonstration of that ideological overreach because nowadays California became and is now as Blue as ever. You really have another think coming.

California had been trending blue before Wilson’s 1994 election, one that happened in a GOP national wave that swept longtime stalwarts like Mario Cuomo, Jim Sasser, and other Congressional and Stateside Dems. Bush Sr. barely won California in 1988, the margin of victory was \< 3%. Clinton beat George I by double digits in 1992.

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**Author:** ![marshmallow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@marshmallow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marshmallow)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 8:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-hillary-reactions/771158/14 "2016-11-09T08:06:03Z")

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> [@foolsguinea](#):
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> Well, propaganda matters. The right wing have done a spectacular job of it for decades, and now the Park Avenue elite have one of their own (sort of) in the White House.

Hillary was the candidate of corporate America.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 8:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-hillary-reactions/771158/15 "2016-11-09T08:07:10Z")

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> [@manila](#):
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> OMFG I can’t breathe you americans so funny! Kim Kardashian for Secretary of State next?

Be careful. The universe has a dark sense of humor.

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**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 8:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-hillary-reactions/771158/16 "2016-11-09T08:10:00Z")

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American liberals - many here on the Dope - were willfully ignorant and arrogant of why people were voting for Trump. The rancour has been incredible.

I’ve called Dopers on their arrogance:

[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19750847&postcount=13](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19750847&postcount=13)  
[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19702866&postcount=42](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19702866&postcount=42)  
[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19592755&postcount=5394](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19592755&postcount=5394)  
[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=19323045&highlight=arrogant#post19323045](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=19323045&highlight=arrogant#post19323045)

Sadly, it seems I was right.

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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 8:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-hillary-reactions/771158/17 "2016-11-09T08:12:11Z")

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What will his Secret Service codename be? Douchebag? Pussy Grabber?

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 8:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-hillary-reactions/771158/18 "2016-11-09T08:12:17Z")

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> [@DerekMichaels00](#):
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> California had been trending blue before Wilson’s 1994 election, one that happened in a GOP national wave that swept longtime stalwarts like Mario Cuomo, Jim Sasser, and other Congressional and Stateside Dems. Bush Sr. barely won California in 1988, the margin of victory was \< 3%. Clinton beat George I by double digits in 1992.

Last time I checked, an election just hapenend, California is still blue. Point is that if you were correct the repudiation would had been more severe, but in reality Clinton did lose by very few points in a few battleground states. There is then more reason to realize that Trump and the Republicans will overreach a lot thinking that they are justified.

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**Author:** ![marshmallow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@marshmallow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marshmallow)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 8:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-hillary-reactions/771158/19 "2016-11-09T08:14:01Z")

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Jeb! said Trump couldn’t insult his way to the presidency. WRONG! _sniff_

[My old post from July](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19509498&postcount=75) was about right.

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**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 8:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-hillary-reactions/771158/20 "2016-11-09T08:14:24Z")

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I guess Hillary isn’t going to publically accept the results of this election. 😕 Oh well, life goes on.

Meanwhile, to answer the OP’s question as to what is my reaction to Trump’s win, I give you Queen.

[http://www.metrolyrics.com/we-are-the-champions-lyrics-queen.html](http://www.metrolyrics.com/we-are-the-champions-lyrics-queen.html)

I’ve paid my dues  
Time after time  
I’ve done my sentence  
But committed no crime

Snip

We are the champions  
No time for losers  
'Cause we are the champions  
Read more: Queen - We Are The Champions Lyrics | MetroLyrics

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