# Donald Trumps Hillary. Reactions.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-hillary-reactions/771158>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [November 9, 2016, 7:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-hillary-reactions/771158 "2016-11-09T07:48:22Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 9:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-hillary-reactions/771158/41 "2016-11-09T09:54:43Z")

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> [@doorhinge](#):
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> I guess Hillary isn’t going to publically accept the results of this election. 😕 Oh well, life goes on.
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> Meanwhile, to answer the OP’s question as to what is my reaction to Trump’s win, I give you Queen.
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> [http://www.metrolyrics.com/we-are-the-champions-lyrics-queen.html](http://www.metrolyrics.com/we-are-the-champions-lyrics-queen.html)
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> I’ve paid my dues  
> Time after time  
> I’ve done my sentence  
> But committed no crime
> 
> Snip
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> We are the champions  
> No time for losers  
> 'Cause we are the champions  
> Read more: Queen - We Are The Champions Lyrics | MetroLyrics

Please don’t violate fair use guidelines.

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 9:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-hillary-reactions/771158/42 "2016-11-09T09:56:50Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> So people who got the predictions completely wrong are more than willing to start, in this very thread, making NEW predictions which you’ll issue with equal confidence?
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> I’d love to read someone here say something like, “Based on my utter inability to even understand the factors involved in this election, I’m going to tread very carefully for a little while.”
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> No. “I was wrong and so let me tell you confidently what will happen now!”

I, for one, feared this would happen. Even when Comey providing a layup hadn’t happened yet.

We’re an angry and ignorant country, it seems. It’s impossible to predict what angry and ignorant people will do.

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**Author:** ![Jragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Jragon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jragon)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 10:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-hillary-reactions/771158/43 "2016-11-09T10:00:58Z")

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> [@astro](#):
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> Now I really don’t know what to think. I could be angry at all the Trump voters but In fairness when the ball is thrown back in your face like it was last night I think it’s possible that you need to reconsider some of your assumptions. Maybe it’s true that over 50% of the American voters are racist jackasses, but maybe it’s also true the progressives have been living in an echo chamber. The GOP now controls both houses and the Presidency. If demographics is on the Progressive side it sure didn’t seem like it last night. Where were all the women and the minorities and the progressive last night as Trump carried state after state. There were a lot of women voting for Trump regardless of all the stuff that’s been put out there about his behavior. That’s stunning and it speaks to a level of contempt for Hillary Clinton that I did not think existed among female voters. It turns out a lot of people really did hate her, and I mean viscerally hate her.

I’m not going to say this is the only reason, but keep in mind the Voter Rights Act was recently gutted. We really don’t have enough data to know how many people were disenfranchised, it very well could not have ended up making a difference in this election, but a number of minorities were definitely disenfranchised and it explains their depressed turnout to some degree.

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**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 10:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-hillary-reactions/771158/44 "2016-11-09T10:04:39Z")

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> [@bucketybuck](#):
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> My reaction? I couldn’t possibly have more contempt for American people right now.

And this is how Trump will get his second term. Do you think condescending to “the deplorables” is how you win them over to your side?

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**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 10:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-hillary-reactions/771158/45 "2016-11-09T10:08:51Z")

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> [@Scribble](#):
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> I’m American, and I can see where you’re coming from. But please keep in mind that over 50% of those of us who voted did NOT vote for Trump.

Yeah, that’s true - over 50% either voted for Trump or the **libertarian** , Gary Johnson (who raked in 3% of the popular vote).

Liberals who live in a liberal bubble surrounded by other liberals, and consuming only liberal media, don’t realize what this country is about.

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**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 10:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-hillary-reactions/771158/46 "2016-11-09T10:09:38Z")

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I’d love to hear how you convince people to actually think minorities are human beings and that people don’t deserve to die because they can’t afford to pay medical bills if they don’t already think so.

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**Author:** ![bucketybuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@bucketybuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bucketybuck)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 10:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-hillary-reactions/771158/47 "2016-11-09T10:11:03Z")

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> [@Rigamarole](#):
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> And this is how Trump will get his second term. Do you think condescending to “the deplorables” is how you win them over to your side?

I’m not American. And there are no sides, this is what your country is, and it’s pathetic.

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**Author:** ![don\_t\_ask](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@don\_t\_ask](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/don_t_ask)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 10:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-hillary-reactions/771158/48 "2016-11-09T10:13:57Z")

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Why is it that the immediate response seems to be to bitch about the people that voted for Trump? Surely the problem is that not enough people bothered voting for Clinton. Or are all the many tens of millions that didn’t vote just additional Trump voters?

If between 1 and 3 of every 100 Clinton supporters in Wisconsin, Pennsylvania or Florida had got someone else to vote Clinton she would have reversed those 59 electoral votes. Don’t you think there may be a few people in those states thinking, “Maybe I should have voted on Tuesday.”

I wonder because it’s a problem we don’t have in Australia with almost automatic registration and compulsory voting.

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Feldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lord_feldon/32/341_2.png) [@Lord\_Feldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Feldon)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 10:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-hillary-reactions/771158/49 "2016-11-09T10:18:39Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> On the bright side, Canadians look forward to welcoming a new wave of immigrants from our nearest neighbor – immigrants who can read, write and think coherently, vote on the issues, and contribute to a progressive society.

Then I guess Canadians, like Americans, are woefully ignorant of their own immigration system. There won’t be a “wave” of Americans entering Canada, because Canada isn’t really interested in making it easy for Americans to move in. (The average American seems to think immigration works like it did during the Ellis Island era. Just show up, prove you don’t have a contagious disease, and go grab your opportunity. That’s why so much talk about illegal immigrants centers on “waiting in line.”)

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**Author:** ![Jragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Jragon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jragon)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 10:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-hillary-reactions/771158/50 "2016-11-09T10:21:07Z")

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I’m still hoping to get an academic or research position in Canada or possibly the UK in a couple years after I get my PhD, but I’ve also been hoping for that for a couple years now because there are some nice places doing things I’m interested in. It’s not just a Trump thing, but that makes me want it even more.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 10:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-hillary-reactions/771158/51 "2016-11-09T10:21:12Z")

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> [@Rigamarole](#):
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> And this is how Trump will get his second term. Do you think condescending to “the deplorables” is how you win them over to your side?

No. From a tactical electioneering perspective it doesn’t work. But from a strategic perspective in trying to improve society, acknowledging facts is crucially important, and among those is the rather key fact that major election decisions are being made by low-information prejudiced ignoramuses. If – as is very likely – this decision comes back to bite them in the ass big time, leading to consequences that the morons never anticipated and never wanted, it won’t be the first time.

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**Author:** ![Salvor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Salvor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Salvor)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 10:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-hillary-reactions/771158/52 "2016-11-09T10:22:46Z")

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> [@manila](#):
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> OMFG I can’t breathe you americans so funny! Kim Kardashian for Secretary of State next?

Of course not. But Omarosa as the next supreme court Justice? Likely.

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**Author:** ![TwiSpark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/77aa72/32.png) [@TwiSpark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwiSpark)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 10:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-hillary-reactions/771158/53 "2016-11-09T10:25:36Z")

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If the days immediately following Brexit are anything to go by, non-whites are going to want to lie low for a bit. Hang in there guys.

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**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 10:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-hillary-reactions/771158/54 "2016-11-09T10:30:43Z")

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> [@astro](#):
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> Where were all the women and the minorities and the progressive last night as Trump carried state after state.

They were around - it does look like Clinton will probably win the popular vote once the west is tallied. Sadly it is irrelevant, as winning California by 2 million votes does not cancel out losing multiple key states by tens of thousands each.

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 11:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-hillary-reactions/771158/55 "2016-11-09T11:11:03Z")

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> [@Jack\_Batty](#):
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> I also now expect a senate/house swing come 2018.

It’s very unlikely that any swing will be big enough to change party control in the near future.

The Senate seats up for election in 2018 are heavily Democratic ones.

In the House, the Republicans likely have a lock on the majority at least until 2022 and until and unless Democrats can take control of enough state legislatures to undo the Redmap gerrymandering.

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 11:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-hillary-reactions/771158/56 "2016-11-09T11:25:36Z")

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> [@astro](#):
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> I really don’t know what to think at this point. This is the greatest upset in American history. PT Barnum is now the President of the United States of America. .

Quick! Which way to the egress?

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**Author:** ![Crafter\_Man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crafter_man/32/458_2.png) [@Crafter\_Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crafter_Man)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 11:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-hillary-reactions/771158/57 "2016-11-09T11:34:34Z")

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> [@Smitty](#):
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> I can’t say I’m happy Trump won, but I am giddy that Hillary lost. No one in America deserves a stake through the heart more than that abomination.

This.

Her decades-long criminal enterprise has finally caught up with her.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 11:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-hillary-reactions/771158/58 "2016-11-09T11:39:33Z")

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This election has exhausted me, as I’m sure it has everyone here, so I’m almost out of political posts.

I will say that Trump’s victory speech last night was gracious and struck the right tone, and I worried that he would be a gloater. I also appreciate the way Conway praised Clinton for her phone call. And honestly, I really wish Clinton would have come out to give a concession speech herself. I suspect that she was just overcome with grief and wasn’t sure she could compose herself in public, which is understandable. All of the insiders, all of the data pointed to victory. Not a blowout but a convincing win. And I guess she, like the rest of us, just watched in utter disbelief.

Whether we like the results or not, I think we have to at least wait and see what happens if nothing else. The markets are going to be shocked but they’ll probably get over it in a day or two, if not by day’s end. Mark Cuban was right: we’ll have to at least give this a chance. But it’s hard to actually bring myself to accept that. There’s just so much uncertainty right now.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 12:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-hillary-reactions/771158/59 "2016-11-09T12:13:10Z")

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> [@Lord\_Feldon](#):
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> Then I guess Canadians, like Americans, are woefully ignorant of their own immigration system. There won’t be a “wave” of Americans entering Canada, because Canada isn’t really interested in making it easy for Americans to move in. (The average American seems to think immigration works like it did during the Ellis Island era. Just show up, prove you don’t have a contagious disease, and go grab your opportunity. That’s why so much talk about illegal immigrants centers on “waiting in line.”)

The “average American” may think that – and it’s wrong – but the average Canadian such as myself at least has some idea of how our own immigration system works.

It’s true that it’s essentially impossible to immigrate to the US unless you are either (a) the subject of an intra-company transfer from an eligible country, or (b) a job applicant endorsed by the hiring company AND meeting necessary qualifications and eligibility criteria, or (c) an exceptionally fortunate refugee claimant. Canada has basically the same criteria but applicants for immigration to Canada can _ **also** _ qualify based on [economic criteria](http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canada-immigration-levels-mccallum-1.3829496) – skills, education, and ability to contribute. That’s a significant difference.

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**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 12:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-hillary-reactions/771158/60 "2016-11-09T12:21:32Z")

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> [@AK84](#):
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> Damn. It’s really happened.
> 
> In the time of Trump.
> 
> What do you think the future holds? The transition?

Darkness.

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