# Donald Trumps Hillary. Reactions.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-hillary-reactions/771158>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [November 9, 2016, 7:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-hillary-reactions/771158 "2016-11-09T07:48:22Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 11\
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**Author:** ![ganthet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9de0a6/32.png) [@ganthet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ganthet)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2016, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-hillary-reactions/771158/101 "2016-11-10T01:02:21Z")

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> [@HurricaneDitka](#):
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> Winners. You know just as well as I do that if HRC had won last night, the other half of the country would be celebrating, and it would include plenty of gloating over Republicans.

There would be celebrating, but I think the vast majority of the feeling would have just been relief that Trump wasn’t elected. Outside of hardcore democrats, I don’t think that many people were particularly enthused about Hillary personally. They felt she had the experience and temperament, but weren’t convinced that she alone could solve all their problems like Trump has made himself out to be.

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**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2016, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-hillary-reactions/771158/102 "2016-11-10T01:24:59Z")

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> [@Oakminster](#):
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> Shaka, when the walls fell.

Heh.

Arkansas, when the Clintons came back home.

Galaxy Quest: Those poor people!

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**Author:** ![ganthet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9de0a6/32.png) [@ganthet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ganthet)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2016, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-hillary-reactions/771158/103 "2016-11-10T01:34:04Z")

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> [@billfish678](#):
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> Heh.
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> Arkansas, when the Clintons came back home.
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> Galaxy Quest: Those poor people!

Except the Clintons have settled in New York following Bill leaving office in 2000 (so that Hillary could run for Senate there).

A fun factoid, though, is that the Little Rock airport is officially the Bill and Hillary Clinton National Airport. The current governor, Asa Hutchinson, was one of the House of Representatives impeachment “managers” (aka prosecutors) of Bill during the trial in the Senate. Now, every time he needs to fly into and out of Arkansas, he has to do it through the Clinton National Airport.

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**Author:** ![lucid-nonsense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/2acd7d/32.png) [@lucid-nonsense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lucid-nonsense)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2016, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-hillary-reactions/771158/104 "2016-11-10T02:09:23Z")

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I’m not American. I feel like I just watched a fratboy drink from a pitcher of puke on a dare.

On a side note, Kim Kardashian would be an improvement over Trump. She is a legitimately successful businesswoman, and she’s not racist, sexist or rapey, as far as I know.

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2016, 9:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-hillary-reactions/771158/105 "2016-11-10T09:18:13Z")

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nm - wrong thread

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**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2016, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-hillary-reactions/771158/106 "2016-11-10T11:21:56Z")

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Ken Bone says, “[Don’t panic](http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/video_and_audio/headlines/37925122).”

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**Author:** ![Inbred\_Mm\_domesticus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/aca169/32.png) [@Inbred\_Mm\_domesticus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inbred_Mm_domesticus)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2016, 12:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-hillary-reactions/771158/107 "2016-11-10T12:31:17Z")

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> [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](#):
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> OTOH, I don’t see how Trump and the GOP are going to help the desperate Rust Belt people who voted for them. They want to cut taxes for the wealthy, do away with the ACA, Social Security and Medicare. I don’t see how things will improve for them.
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> Someone explain that one to me please.
> 
> No, really, answer me.

Hasn’t he said he is going to bring manufacturing back to America? Perhaps he’ll succeed.

By the way, I haven’t seen Trump fail to do or attempt to do anything he says he will do. This includes grabbing women by the pussy. But it can also mean just putting his corporate brand on what’s already policy like “Extreme Vetting”.

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Feldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lord_feldon/32/341_2.png) [@Lord\_Feldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Feldon)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2016, 12:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-hillary-reactions/771158/108 "2016-11-10T12:34:18Z")

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> [@Inbred\_Mm\_domesticus](#):
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> Hasn’t he said he is going to bring manufacturing back to America? Perhaps he’ll succeed.

_Manufacturing_ never left. What he’s supposedly going to bring back are unskilled manufacturing _jobs_.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2016, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-hillary-reactions/771158/109 "2016-11-10T14:37:04Z")

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> [@Inbred\_Mm\_domesticus](#):
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> Hasn’t he said he is going to bring manufacturing back to America? Perhaps he’ll succeed.
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> By the way, I haven’t seen Trump fail to do or attempt to do anything he says he will do. This includes grabbing women by the pussy. But it can also mean just putting his corporate brand on what’s already policy like “Extreme Vetting”.

[ABC article about his clothing being made overseas.](http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trump-admits-gear-made-china-labels/story?id=13472355) From 2011

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> Asked if he ever looked at having his Trump products manufactured in the U.S., Trump said, “Always do. There are very few companies that do it because they can’t compete with the manipulation.”

As usual, blame someone else. If he really wanted to do it, he could. Raise the price on his cheap crap, if his name is really a draw, he won’t lose sales.  
[Trump uses Chinese steel](http://www.newsweek.com/how-donald-trump-ditched-us-steel-workers-china-505717)  
Trump is not bringing jobs back.

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**Author:** ![Inbred\_Mm\_domesticus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/aca169/32.png) [@Inbred\_Mm\_domesticus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inbred_Mm_domesticus)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2016, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-hillary-reactions/771158/110 "2016-11-10T14:53:35Z")

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> [@Lord\_Feldon](#):
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> _Manufacturing_ never left. What he’s supposedly going to bring back are unskilled manufacturing _jobs_.

Good point on the clarification. I do not believe it matters a whole lot to the voters **Try2B Comprehensive** was referring to. Anyway it doesn’t matter, I have very little faith the people that bought Trump’s message will ever understand they need to take practical steps to improve their economic outlook. Waiting for somebody to bring back the time they dream of ill end in failure. Beating up on immigrants isn’t going to do it either.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2016, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-hillary-reactions/771158/111 "2016-11-11T19:30:38Z")

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> [@RTFirefly](#):
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> With respect to legislation, the problem isn’t Trump himself. The problem is Congress.
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> As long as we had a Dem President, they couldn’t pass their agenda. Now they can.
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> As I’ve said before, if anyone thinks Trump’s going to be a moderating influence on Paul Ryan & Co., or veto the Ryan budget, I think they’re living in a fantasy world. He won’t pay enough attention to know what he’s signing, but he’ll sign it. He won’t bother himself with the details.
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> And on the whole, Trump’s pretty much fallen in line with GOP orthodoxy any time there was much daylight in between him and them, for all his populist talk. And forget all that bullshit about Hillary being the candidate of corporate America - the GOP is the party of corporate America at a scale that makes Hillary look like a Marxist by comparison. All the goodies will belong to them.
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> Bye bye, _Roe v. Wade_, obviously. We’ll have a lot more baby moochers and takers, only there won’t be a safety net to mooch off of. They’ll fight for you when you’re in the womb, but once you’re out, you’re on your own.
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> Kiss Obamacare goodbye. Those of you WWC folks who had insurance through either the Exchanges or the Medicaid expansion are gonna have a shockeroo when 2018 rolls around, and it’s all gone. Medicaid’s gonna be block-granted over to the states, and shrunk. Good luck paying Granny’s nursing-home bills on your own, once Medicaid stops picking them up.
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> Will Trump be able to restrain himself from using the Executive Branch agencies as tools for personal and political revenge? Who knows?
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> Good luck, eastern Europe. Trump likes Putin more than he likes you.
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> Minimum wage either stays at $7.25, or gets abolished. I don’t _think_ the latter will happen, but then I didn’t think this day would come. The Executive order raising the pay level below which overtime pay is mandatory - that’s gone.
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> Medicare and Social Security: Ryan wants to voucherize the one, and partially privatize the other. It may or may not happen, but we shouldn’t even have to worry about this shit. And it’s easier to tear stuff down than to build it back up again.
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> So fuck you, James Comey. Fuck you, media that couldn’t run enough stories about the emails and the Clinton Foundation - nothingburgers all, but the relentless drumbeat of those stories was the foundation for all the Crooked Hillary talk. And fuck you, Republicans that were outspoken, just a few months ago, about how awful Trump would be, but fell in behind him anyway.
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> Blame where blame is due.

> [@Bricker](#):
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> So people who got the predictions completely wrong are more than willing to start, in this very thread, making NEW predictions which you’ll issue with equal confidence?
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> I’d love to read someone here say something like, “Based on my utter inability to even understand the factors involved in this election, I’m going to tread very carefully for a little while.”
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> No. “I was wrong and so let me tell you confidently what will happen now!”

> [@RTFirefly](#):
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> I’m just believing what Donald Trump and Paul Ryan have said, and how the GOP Congressional caucus has voted.
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> I should deny their agency, based on what exactly? I don’t even have contradictory body language to go on.

> [@RTFirefly](#):
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> Oh yeah: the climate is screwed.

So far, just since Wednesday morning, we already have Trump saying he’s gonna ditch Obama’s climate agenda, and Ryan saying he’ll kill Obamacare and replace Medicare with private insurance.

IOW, they’re saying the same things now that they were before the election.

I’d give my bottom dollar for them to change their tune and prove me wrong on everything. There have been times in my life where I’ve been elated to have been wrong. I dearly wish this were going to be the latest for-instance. If only.

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