# Donesbury Palin/TS3 - exceptionally nasty? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [July 28, 2010, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donesbury-palin-ts3-exceptionally-nasty/548315 "2010-07-28T15:31:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Saltire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saltire/32/553_2.png) [@Saltire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saltire)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2010, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donesbury-palin-ts3-exceptionally-nasty/548315/21 "2010-07-28T18:56:07Z")
I’m as liberal as anyone, and my main reaction to any reference to Sarah Palin is to think she’s already gotten a thousand times the post-election coverage she deserves. But I did think Trudeau was probably overdoing it today. If he intends it as a symbolic teabagger attacking the administration with over-the-top rhetoric, he needs to be less subtle about identifying his symbols or more subtle about how those symbols are used. Don’t be surprised if your local paper stops carrying the strip, or moves it to a different page once the complaints start coming in. ---
**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2010, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donesbury-palin-ts3-exceptionally-nasty/548315/22 "2010-07-28T19:15:43Z")
> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#): > > That’s a heck of a cunt. I remember when ping pong balls seemed right edgy. ---
**Author:** ![detop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bcef8e/32.png) [@detop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/detop)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2010, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donesbury-palin-ts3-exceptionally-nasty/548315/23 "2010-07-28T19:15:44Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > Anything that humiliates/embarrasses/annoys Palin is good with me. Then you must **love** [Monty Python’s](http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-zxzmlvSNw) take on her 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2010, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donesbury-palin-ts3-exceptionally-nasty/548315/24 "2010-07-28T19:19:08Z")
> [@detop](#): > > > [@silenus](#): > > > > Anything that humiliates/embarrasses/annoys Palin is good with me. > > Then you must **love** [Monty Python’s](http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-zxzmlvSNw) take on her 😃 The link seems a bit wonky. ---
**Author:** ![detop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bcef8e/32.png) [@detop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/detop)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2010, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donesbury-palin-ts3-exceptionally-nasty/548315/25 "2010-07-28T19:23:20Z")
Let’s try this again : [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-zxzmlvSNw](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-zxzmlvSNw) ---
**Author:** ![TWDuke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e495f1/32.png) [@TWDuke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TWDuke)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2010, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donesbury-palin-ts3-exceptionally-nasty/548315/26 "2010-07-28T19:27:06Z")
Not only is it not funny, it’s not effective satire. Other than “Palin is evil,” what is supposed to be the subject? ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2010, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donesbury-palin-ts3-exceptionally-nasty/548315/27 "2010-07-28T19:35:18Z")
> [@TWDuke](#): > > Not only is it not funny, it’s not effective satire. Other than “Palin is evil,” what is supposed to be the subject? Garry Trudeau doesn’t NEED another subject. ---
**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2010, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donesbury-palin-ts3-exceptionally-nasty/548315/28 "2010-07-28T19:37:16Z")
> [@TWDuke](#): > > Not only is it not funny, it’s not effective satire. Other than “Palin is evil,” what is supposed to be the subject? The way I see it, Sarah Palin isn’t even really the subject here; she’s just being used as a figurehead for the Tea Party lunatics who respond to a Democratic administration with hysterical references to watering the tree of liberty with the blood of tyrants. The problem with the strip is that this isn’t really clear; it _does_ appear to be about Sarah Palin personally. And yeah, it’s not terribly funny. ---
**Author:** ![TWDuke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e495f1/32.png) [@TWDuke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TWDuke)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2010, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donesbury-palin-ts3-exceptionally-nasty/548315/29 "2010-07-28T19:37:30Z")
**Biffy** : That kind of makes sense, although using Palin to symbolize anything other than Palin was a terrible choice. She’s such a notable personality in her own right that it’s hard to get past that and see her as a symbol of anything else. Heck, he could have replaced her with a talking teapot and it would have been crystal clear. **astorian** : Well, yeah, he does. I’m not saying it’s not true, but it’s not particularly witty or insightful. ---
**Author:** ![Death\_of\_Rats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a6a055/32.png) [@Death\_of\_Rats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Death_of_Rats)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2010, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donesbury-palin-ts3-exceptionally-nasty/548315/30 "2010-07-28T20:04:39Z")
But it is not just Palin. Palin is the leader, the symbol is that the toys are all dressed up in Revolutionary-era costumes (note Mr. Potatohead’s tri-corner hat) and are discussing their plans at a child’s tea party. ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2010, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donesbury-palin-ts3-exceptionally-nasty/548315/31 "2010-07-28T20:05:24Z")
For those of you who don’t follow the script, the kid in question is BD and Boopsie’s daughter, who a while back wanted and was given a Sarah Palin action figure. BD is the most conservative of the main characters who aren’t pure jokes, though I haven’t noticed much politics out of him since he lost his leg in Iraq. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2010, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donesbury-palin-ts3-exceptionally-nasty/548315/32 "2010-07-28T20:11:53Z")
Not funny at all, plus the Palin doll is sorta right. ---
**Author:** ![TWDuke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e495f1/32.png) [@TWDuke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TWDuke)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2010, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donesbury-palin-ts3-exceptionally-nasty/548315/33 "2010-07-28T20:42:03Z")
> [@Death\_of\_Rats](#): > > a child’s tea party Ah, I completely missed the teacups the first time I looked at it. I’m afraid I’m not as perspicacious as I once was. I also didn’t see the strips where the kid got a Sarah Palin action figure, so to me it looked like Palin herself was in the girl’s bedroom talking to a bunch of toys, which was just odd. If I had gotten those two points originally, I might have appreciated the humor and satire more. ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2010, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donesbury-palin-ts3-exceptionally-nasty/548315/34 "2010-07-29T00:20:43Z")
> [@Bosstone](#): > > > [@Dinsdale](#): > > > > trudeau is doing a riff on Toy Story 3 featuring the Sarah Palin doll. In today’s strip, the doll is encouraging the other toys to kill the little girl who owns them. > > > > I REALLY dislike SP, but this impressed me as over-the-top. What do you think? > > It’s…not really any different from what she and Bachmann have been calling for regarding the current administration all this time. I don’t see how it’s any more offensive than what’s been said in reality. But I don’t want to be down on Palin’s level. And certainly not Bachmann’s. Or read comics that are. So, yeah, I cringed – offensive, partisan… and not funny. ---
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2010, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donesbury-palin-ts3-exceptionally-nasty/548315/35 "2010-07-29T00:39:07Z")
> [@RikWriter](#): > > This being a board that leans much more to the left than most of the country, I doubt you’ll hear too many people complaining about it. Me, I am very conservative/a bit libertarian and, although frankly I don’t think much of Sarah Palin—I think she’s a stuffed bra the same way that Obama is an empty suit, people with very little real world experience who don’t belong in the same breath as the presidency—I DO think it is amusing the way she’s become Satan Incarnate to the leftists. I almost like her for that alone. But I still don’t want her running for president on the Republican ticket, because 1) we’d lose and 2)if we won, it might actually be worse than losing. This is the wrong forum for this but you can turn that argument around and make the case that she became as popular as she did so fast because the right was desperate for a reason, any reason at all, to jump on the McCain ticket so when she burst onto the scene they grabbed on with both hands. To make this post more on topic, I am a liberal and the tone of today’s strip felt a little harsh to me. ---
**Author:** ![Dallas\_Jones](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dallas_jones/32/3277_2.png) [@Dallas\_Jones](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dallas_Jones)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2010, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donesbury-palin-ts3-exceptionally-nasty/548315/36 "2010-07-29T00:56:06Z")
> [@Saltire](#): > > Don’t be surprised if your local paper stops carrying the strip, or moves it to a different page once the complaints start coming in. My local newspaper removed Donesbury from the comics and placed it on the editorial page a long time ago, maybe 10 years. It is a daily editorial cartoon, not a comic. ---
**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2010, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donesbury-palin-ts3-exceptionally-nasty/548315/37 "2010-07-29T03:37:21Z")
> [@Quimby](#): > > > [@RikWriter](#): > > > > This being a board that leans much more to the left than most of the country, I doubt you’ll hear too many people complaining about it. Me, I am very conservative/a bit libertarian and, although frankly I don’t think much of Sarah Palin—I think she’s a stuffed bra the same way that Obama is an empty suit, people with very little real world experience who don’t belong in the same breath as the presidency—I DO think it is amusing the way she’s become Satan Incarnate to the leftists. I almost like her for that alone. But I still don’t want her running for president on the Republican ticket, because 1) we’d lose and 2)if we won, it might actually be worse than losing. > > This is the wrong forum for this but you can turn that argument around and make the case that she became as popular as she did so fast because the right was desperate for a reason, any reason at all, to jump on the McCain ticket so when she burst onto the scene they grabbed on with both hands. I agree…McCain was a horrible candidate. But I don’t see how that turns my argument around at all. ---
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2010, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donesbury-palin-ts3-exceptionally-nasty/548315/38 "2010-07-29T03:49:49Z")
> [@RikWriter](#): > > I agree…McCain was a horrible candidate. But I don’t see how that turns my argument around at all. I guess the point is you implied that the left’s dislike of her was irrational. I was pointing out the right’s embracing of her was too. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2010, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donesbury-palin-ts3-exceptionally-nasty/548315/39 "2010-07-29T04:56:07Z")
The left’s dislike of her is about as rational and defensible as any political dislike has ever been. She’s one of those rare politicos who really is as awful as her opponents say she is. ---
**Author:** ![Aji\_de\_Gallina](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aji_de_gallina/32/260_2.png) [@Aji\_de\_Gallina](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aji_de_Gallina)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2010, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donesbury-palin-ts3-exceptionally-nasty/548315/40 "2010-07-29T05:06:43Z")
Not exceptionally nasty but not even remotely funny. Even if you dislike her, it’s a dud. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donesbury-palin-ts3-exceptionally-nasty/548315.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donesbury-palin-ts3-exceptionally-nasty/548315.md?page=3)