# Don't be such a Jerk, Ukulele Ike **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 5, 2003, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-be-such-a-jerk-ukulele-ike/146714 "2003-01-05T03:30:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 21
**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2003, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-be-such-a-jerk-ukulele-ike/146714/401 "2003-01-08T00:02:05Z")
> [@](#): > > _Originally posted by **stpauler** _ > > That means he can laugh at it… I think what **andros** was going for (and I’m sure he’ll correct me if I’m mistaken) was, “Hmmm, **Joe** sure doesn’t act like a Christian, so of course he’d be able to watch a movie that makes fun of Christianity - why wouldn’t he? Oh, wait - he actually is a Christian? Huh. Never would have guessed.” Esprix ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2003, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-be-such-a-jerk-ukulele-ike/146714/402 "2003-01-08T01:38:56Z")
Not that it’s a surprise, but right in one, 'Spree. By their fruits shall you know them (no puns, please). And I’m not seeing any Christian love in Joe’s last few posts. Oh, and **Grendel**? Hate to burst the ol’ bubble, but there are very few Christians who consider _LToC_ or _Dogma_ pro-Christian movies. ---
**Author:** ![djf750](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ea666f/32.png) [@djf750](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/djf750)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2003, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-be-such-a-jerk-ukulele-ike/146714/403 "2003-01-08T02:43:34Z")
In less than 72 hours, this thread is in 9th place all time for hits, and 8th for replies. And I personally, after 10 posts, don’t know what the fuck it is even about anymore. ---
**Author:** ![grendel72](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/91b2a8/32.png) [@grendel72](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grendel72)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2003, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-be-such-a-jerk-ukulele-ike/146714/404 "2003-01-08T02:45:43Z")
Christians I know have said that they consider them pro Christian movies. More to the point, nothing in either of those movies was as deliberately hurtful as the things **Mr. Cynical** , **Reprise** , **Diane** and several others said to **lee** and **Kelley** in this thread. It pisses me off when people like **J\_C** do evil diliberately and then claim they are being persecuted. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2003, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-be-such-a-jerk-ukulele-ike/146714/405 "2003-01-08T03:43:05Z")
Let me see if I have this right. **Kelly** impregnated **lee** , correct? **Kelly** , if you’re still reading this thread I was wondering if you think you’ll ever be ready for your surgery. I’m asking this because if you have been impregnating **lee** on a regular basis it sounds like you’re having some serious problems disconnecting yourself from your manhood. Even if this was just a one-time thing, I don’t think it’s a good sign of things to come. ---
**Author:** ![Diane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/2acd7d/32.png) [@Diane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diane)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2003, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-be-such-a-jerk-ukulele-ike/146714/406 "2003-01-08T05:17:33Z")
> [@](#): > > More to the point, nothing in either of those movies was as deliberately hurtful as the things Mr. Cynical, Reprise, Diane and several others said to lee and Kelley in this thread. Oh fuck off, Spazboy. Don’t you fucking dare assume that anything I said was deliberately hurtful. It just makes you look more like the overreacting tizzy you’ve shown yourself to be in this thread. If you want to compare my posts to yours to see who has been more hateful and hurtful, knock your dickwadding self out. You’ll see who the big, gaping asshole has been. I’ll give you a hint - It ain’t me. ---
**Author:** ![Diane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/2acd7d/32.png) [@Diane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diane)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2003, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-be-such-a-jerk-ukulele-ike/146714/407 "2003-01-08T05:23:29Z")
> [@](#): > > The filmmakers of pro Christian movies like The Last Temptation of Christ and Dogma have recieved death threats, so I am really interested to see this movie that “makes fun” of Christians in as hurtful a way as some have “joked” in this thread. **Pro** -Christian? Huh. . . . ---
**Author:** ![djf750](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ea666f/32.png) [@djf750](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/djf750)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2003, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-be-such-a-jerk-ukulele-ike/146714/408 "2003-01-08T05:27:07Z")
this thread is going to ignite again any second now ---
**Author:** ![grendel72](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/91b2a8/32.png) [@grendel72](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grendel72)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2003, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-be-such-a-jerk-ukulele-ike/146714/409 "2003-01-08T05:34:00Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Diane \* > **KellyM - I guess then that I will have to request a cite from you showing that a female can produce sperm. Not a biological male who chooses to live as a female, but “living woman sperm” that can impregnate.** Well, **Diane** , how exactly do you excuse this bullshit. This was outside personal stuff that was brought into this thread by the bigot brigade which you seem to be a proud member of. Calling a MtF transsexual male is incredibly rude, I don’t call you a sow living as a human do I? ---
**Author:** ![hardygrrl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a3d4f5/32.png) [@hardygrrl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hardygrrl)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2003, 6:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-be-such-a-jerk-ukulele-ike/146714/410 "2003-01-08T06:03:43Z")
**Grendel** , can you stop waving the Sword of Righteousness for a sec? Please? I have knick-knacks I’m quite fond of. Let me put this simply. We all know **Kelly** is a pre-op transexual who “lives as a woman”. Got that part down. As **Weirddave** and **Jeff Olsen** both pointed out, the “living as a woman” seems to be a very loosely defined concept, considering she uses her penis sexually. Best of both worlds, I guess. Personally, it’s no sweat off my nose what they do or how they choose to live. However, they **chose to make the details** public and copped an attitude when a genuine question was asked. Wrong boards for that. ---
**Author:** ![grendel72](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/91b2a8/32.png) [@grendel72](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grendel72)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2003, 6:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-be-such-a-jerk-ukulele-ike/146714/411 "2003-01-08T06:06:03Z")
They weren’t the one who “chose to make the details public”, and for that matter I don’t believe there was any reference to **Kelly** using her penis “exclusively”. ---
**Author:** ![grendel72](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/91b2a8/32.png) [@grendel72](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grendel72)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2003, 6:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-be-such-a-jerk-ukulele-ike/146714/412 "2003-01-08T06:07:20Z")
… but even if there was such a reference, that has dick all to do with this thread. ---
**Author:** ![BrightEyes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/2acd7d/32.png) [@BrightEyes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrightEyes)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2003, 6:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-be-such-a-jerk-ukulele-ike/146714/413 "2003-01-08T06:39:43Z")
I think your the only one being a prick here, lee. he made a joke, ok? I son’t know how he got so much meaning out of such a small message. ---
**Author:** ![hardygrrl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a3d4f5/32.png) [@hardygrrl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hardygrrl)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2003, 6:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-be-such-a-jerk-ukulele-ike/146714/414 "2003-01-08T06:41:49Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by grendel72 \* > \*\*They weren’t the one who “chose to make the details public”, and for that matter I don’t believe there was any reference to **Kelly** using her penis “exclusively”. \*\* [This](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=135595) and this would be making it public. Granted, it has fuck all to do with this thread **but** the precedent of dropping “shocking” :rolleyes: news and/or pronouncments, then getting offended when questions are asked was established. **lee** posts vaguely worded entries at best, is understandably asked for clarification, and then here comes **Kelly** , attitude a blazin and mode set to “How Dare You Question Me?”. So she and **lee** refer to it as ‘woman sperm’, people say ‘huhwhatHUH?’ and they are immediately tagged as bigots/swine. Come on, she managed to equate someone giving her child a freaking Disney toy with someone giving a child in a kosher household pork. I have some serious hate for Celine Dion, but it’s not violating my faith if someone gives me a CD of hers. Just makes me wonder about their taste and look for the gift receipt. ---
**Author:** ![grendel72](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/91b2a8/32.png) [@grendel72](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grendel72)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2003, 6:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-be-such-a-jerk-ukulele-ike/146714/415 "2003-01-08T06:46:15Z")
How about if someone gave you a copy of _The Turner Diaries_ as a gift. The point is that they don’t approve of Disney and those who insist on giving the child Disney products anyway are being dicks. ---
**Author:** ![grendel72](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/91b2a8/32.png) [@grendel72](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grendel72)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2003, 6:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-be-such-a-jerk-ukulele-ike/146714/416 "2003-01-08T06:50:47Z")
They didn’t “cop an attitude”. Those few who asked without being assholes were answered. Those who insisted on being assholes ignored the polite answers. Those who insisted on being assholes came into this thread after **lee** apologised for overreacting and made still more hateful comments. I have yet to see anything approaching an apology from the fucking bigots who hijacked this thread. ---
**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2003, 7:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-be-such-a-jerk-ukulele-ike/146714/417 "2003-01-08T07:07:51Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by grendel72 \* > \*\*I have yet to see anything approaching an apology from the fucking bigots who hijacked this thread. \*\* You first **grendel**. Of all the people here, it is YOU who have been the most hateful and YOU who have ascribed bigotted motives to statements that could and should have been read in a more open way. NOBODY GIVES A SHIT THAT **LEE** AND **KELLYB** AND THEIR PARTNER LIVE AN UNCONVENTIONAL LIFESTYLE. But they **have** made their living arrangements public, and given the original OP, some people see a great deal of incongruity about it. And YES, some lighthearted jokes have been made. People do that. Nobody is condemning their choices (but it still _would_ be nice to know why Disney is verboten). However, it is hard to take their situation seriously when they themselves give evasive and convoluted answers to legitimate questions. So get that 2 x 4 out of your arse and get back to your room until you are ready to apologise. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![NothingMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b77776/32.png) [@NothingMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NothingMan)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2003, 7:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-be-such-a-jerk-ukulele-ike/146714/418 "2003-01-08T07:08:12Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Ukulele Ike \* > \*\*Joyfully ACCEPTED! > > Now, everyone come here for huggles. \*\* Ya know **Ike** , it’s kinda rude when you are the star of a Pit thread to not even show up until page 8. Sheesh man, if you were asked to take over as Danny in an off Broadway “Grease” you wouldn’t make it to the theater until the third act ! Then I would miss the Ukulele version of "Summer Lovin’ " and have to demand my $5 back. Bad form . . . What a wacked out thread. ---
**Author:** ![grendel72](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/91b2a8/32.png) [@grendel72](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grendel72)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2003, 7:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-be-such-a-jerk-ukulele-ike/146714/419 "2003-01-08T07:14:02Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by kambuckta \* > **And YES, some lighthearted jokes have been made.** “Lighthearted” jokes are not made at someone else’s expense. Calling someone a fucked up parent is not a lighthearted joke, saying “fuck you and the sex change doctor you rode in on” as **reprise** did is not lighthearted. ---
**Author:** ![BlackKnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/eb8c5e/32.png) [@BlackKnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlackKnight)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2003, 7:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-be-such-a-jerk-ukulele-ike/146714/420 "2003-01-08T07:24:04Z")
The pork joke, however, was quite funny. I hope somebody gives _me_ some sausage. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-be-such-a-jerk-ukulele-ike/146714.md?page=20) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-be-such-a-jerk-ukulele-ike/146714.md?page=22)